what NTRP is this kid?

[NLBwell]

In the video he's 9 years old. He therefore is not capable of playing on a full-sized court. Also, since he isn't playing Quickstart he will never be any good at tennis.

[ordinarymangoe3]

Wow I would double bagel this kid...... then again im 13.. lolz

[GuyClinch]

Kid could probably play with 4.0s. If we are talking about LEAGUE RATED male 3.5s and 4.0s they will give him some trouble though.

Truth is most people you meet who don't play in leagues vastly exaggerated their skill level. Most so called 3.5s are 3.0s or 2.5. Most 4.0s would get crushed in a 3.5 league and so on.

Secondly you look ALOT better hitting against a pro. Whereas in a match this kid will be fed all kinds of spinny junk. This holds true for amateurs. This is why so many women pay good money to hit with a pro. They want to feel they are 'good' at tennis. And the way a pro can hit will make them feel that way..

That being said off the ground his strokes are going to be better then most people - so he should be able to use that to beat the some of the 4.0s and all the 3.5s.

He shouldnt be playing matches with adults though. With the wrong kind of player it would really mess up his development. As some of the counter strategies (a very western grip for example) would hurt him as he grows up.

[lethalfang]

Originally Posted by HunterST

Lol, people obviously underestimate how good even the young top juniors are.

When Agassi was 9-12, his father had him hustling players at the local club, and he had beaten most of the players AT THE LOCAL COLLEGE.

This kid might not be as good as agassi at that time, I don't know what his ranking is. But if it's very good nationally, the 2.5-3.5 rankings are ludicrous.

Well, I'm pretty sure a 12-year old Agassi would bagel a 9-year old Agassi every single time.

[JustBerdIT!!!]

Once again remember, he is only rallying, Im not saying this kid is a 2.5 to a 3.0 that just ridiculous, he could probably beat a solid young (28 year old) 4.0 player in a close match. I know from experience that I used to as a junior and all juniors now play 10 times better rallying and practicing, the mental strength is just not there. now if this kid was a 30 year old and this good, yes a 5.0-5.5 rating would be applicable to him. But the mental and physical strength is not there. Also, the saddest part is most kids this good at this age either burnout or just lose interest all together. the once top juniors now on ATP (Roddick, Fed, Nadal, Berd, Gasque) are a 1 in a 1000 kids. And you also have to account some kids go to college and play D1 and then they just go into a professional job at a club. Alot of them just want to kick back and relax and make a non stressful living off of tennis, and some eve quit all together after H.S. or College.

[HunterST]

Wow, I forgot about this thread. Apparently people haven't gotten any more informed about the topic. You're crazy if you think this kid is the equivalent of a 4.0.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxjA9...eature=related

[TTMR]

Originally Posted by HunterST

Wow, I forgot about this thread. Apparently people haven't gotten any more informed about the topic. You're crazy if you think this kid is the equivalent of a 4.0.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxjA9...eature=related

Maybe a 4.0 in Estonia.

[Thud and blunder]

I think this guy would kill most 4.0s despite their 100mph kickers and devastating forehands...he'll find a way to adapt.

[Fugazi]

I'd say about 4.0.

[Avles]

Originally Posted by Fugazi

I'd say about 4.0.

You mean the earlier video (age 9)? He seems like a strong 4.5 at worst now (age 12).

[TennisCJC]

The original video was when he was 9 yo. At age 9, he would start every point on defensive against good 4.0 and above. His serve at 9 yo was below average for 4.5 level and the serves coming at him at 4.5 would be better than he sees at 9 yo open level.

At more recent age 11 or 12, he would likley beat majority of 4.0 and compete well at 4.5 level. Possibly hang with some 5.0s.

[Fugazi]

Originally Posted by Avles

You mean the earlier video (age 9)? He seems like a strong 4.5 at worst now (age 12).

Yeah, 4.0 for the original video. For the update, he looks 4.5-5.0.

[LeeD]

At 9, he's susceptible to many gamesmanship displays, drop shots, lobs, and "boring" tennis.
At 12, even if his groundies don't improve whatsoever, he can handle most if not all 4.5's, give push 5.0's and non thinking 5.0's trouble to boot.
A smart 5.5 can still pummel this kid.