ACC tennis

[Clemson_tennis]

I want to know why John Richmond did not choose Clemson. If we can't get the best from our own state we are in trouble

[mikej]

Originally Posted by Clemson_tennis

I want to know why John Richmond did not choose Clemson. If we can't get the best from our own state we are in trouble

i'm assuming it's because clemson isn't good at tennis

[Clemson_tennis]

Styslinger is the header of that class. The rest of them are pretty good but a little below UVA's current quality. Of course they are not having to replace everyone at once.

[mikej]

Originally Posted by mikej

i'm assuming it's because clemson isn't good at tennis

for the accompanying graphic, please see:

http://www.theacc.com/this-is/accstandings.html#mten

[Clemson_tennis]

Originally Posted by mikej

i'm assuming it's because clemson isn't good at tennis

we have the most acc titles in history. We have been down recently but new facilities are coming. It's a dissapointment to not get elite talent in your own state. We have done a better job at keeping talent in the state than South Carolina in tennis, but SC is just now starting to produce enough elite talents to sustain a program. Not getting Richmond is a set back.

I guess its more attractive to recruits these days to be 6-10 in an elite team than be 2-4 in a mediocre but potential to get better team.

[Clemson_tennis]

Originally Posted by mikej

for the accompanying graphic, please see:

http://www.theacc.com/this-is/accstandings.html#mten

its really not that simple

[mikej]

Originally Posted by Clemson_tennis

we have the most acc titles in history.

false, and irrelevant even if true

Originally Posted by Clemson_tennis

I guess its more attractive to recruits these days to be 6-10 in an elite team than be 2-4 in a mediocre but potential to get better team.

true

[mikej]

Originally Posted by Clemson_tennis

its really not that simple

oh, cause i think 11-0 > 2-9 is pretty simple, apparently so do SC recruits

[Clemson_tennis]

So I guess you would rather ride the pine for a top team than consistently play for a team in the same conference. Because Richmond is good but he is not seeing the top 6 at UVA for a while. I honestly don't understand why Oudshoorn and Rooda stick around considering they never play and would top 6 at every other ACC school outside of Duke.

[mikej]

UNC 25
Duke 12
Clemson 11
UVA 6 and counting

according to page 91 (table titled championships by school) of the ACC records pdf off acc.com

[Clemson_tennis]

Virginia Tech picks up Bjerrerus from Denmark. Nothing on ATP or tennisrecruiting about him. Kinda like Willems of Clemson. Mystery men

[mikej]

Originally Posted by Clemson_tennis

So I guess you would rather ride the pine for a top team than consistently play for a team in the same conference. Because Richmond is good but he is not seeing the top 6 at UVA for a while. I honestly don't understand why Oudshoorn and Rooda stick around considering they never play and would top 6 at every other ACC school outside of Duke.

well, yes, but i'll slightly tweak your paragraph to make it more concise

if i were a highly sought after recruit i'd rather try to earn a spot at the bottom of the lineup for a team that is in the ncaa semis/finals basically every year than play for a team that hopes to get to the acc quarters

[Clemson_tennis]

But a recruit can't judge a team independent of themselves. An addition of Richmond to Clemson automatically makes the team better, an addition of Richmond to UVA makes the locker room one person more crowded.

[Clemson_tennis]

Originally Posted by Jakes On A Plane

In crappier news, the Maryland tennis teams will likely be cut from the school's athletic program.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...utm_medium=RSS

Bad news. Always sad when a tennis program dies

[ClarkC]

Originally Posted by mikej

UNC 25
Duke 12
Clemson 11
UVA 6 and counting

according to page 91 (table titled championships by school) of the ACC records pdf off acc.com

Link, please? That site is absolutely horrible to navigate or even to search. Thanks.

[ClarkC]

Originally Posted by Clemson_tennis

So I guess you would rather ride the pine for a top team than consistently play for a team in the same conference. Because Richmond is good but he is not seeing the top 6 at UVA for a while. I honestly don't understand why Oudshoorn and Rooda stick around considering they never play and would top 6 at every other ACC school outside of Duke.

I overheard something at UVa this fall that I had not realized. A coach for another school in Virginia (present at one of our fall tournaments) said that he knew that Brian Boland had offered to find a good school for players to transfer to if they were out of the top 6 and wanted more playing time, but the players consistently turned him down and stayed.

Playing against top opponents in practice, being well coached, and liking the coaches and teammates all seemed to be important to these players, so that playing time was not decisive.

[Dawgie Dawg]

haha, Virginia loading up on the mediocre American players. Boland looks to be losing his touch. He is going for the generic blue chippers who don't win titles. Virginia will be 5-15 in 2 years. Polnet SUCKS, Richmond and Shane Jr are onlt mediocre. Syslinger can't win it by himself.

[mikej]

Originally Posted by ClarkC

Link, please? That site is absolutely horrible to navigate or even to search. Thanks.

http://www.theacc.com/auto_pdf/p_hot...cc-records-men

[Clemson_tennis]

UNC dominated the 50,60 and 7-'3.Clemson dominated the 80's. Duke the 90's and UVA the 00's

not much room for anything else

[Jakes On A Plane]

Originally Posted by Dawgie Dawg

haha, Virginia loading up on the mediocre American players. Boland looks to be losing his touch. He is going for the generic blue chippers who don't win titles. Virginia will be 5-15 in 2 years. Polnet SUCKS, Richmond and Shane Jr are onlt mediocre. Syslinger can't win it by himself.

Once in awhile, Fedace actually posts something of value. You might want to give it a try. During Styslinger's freshman year he'll have Jenkins, Uriguen, Frank, Domijan, and Shane. That doesn't sound like a weak supporting cast to me...