Dino's RDC-log - Page 3

Bud · 11-30-2010, 06:15 PM

Hey Dino... I have a favor to ask if you have a chance.

We're having a debate in the stringing machine forum here at TT concerning swingweight. Others have reported that any weight added to a frame, below the pivot point will result in a decrease in SW... which is physically impossible. I'd like to verify it one more time on a different machine to determine if this is an idiosyncrasy of the RDC machine.

My question is this: The next time you have a racquet on the RDC machine, after determining the swingweight, would you attach/add an additional 10-20 grams of weight as close to the butt cap as you can and then re-run the swingweight test? The weight can be taped to the end or added inside the buttcap.

If you can do this,

I'd like to know the following:

Racquet model
Length
Weight
Balance
Swingweight (stock)
Swingweight (with added weight)
Amount of extra weight added to the buttcap
Approximate distance weight is added from the pivot point of the RDC machine (should be 8-9 cm, I believe)

Thanks!

Dino Lagaffe · 11-30-2010, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VGP

Dino Lagaffe - I haven't said it before, but thanks for starting this thread and continuing to update the info.

Thanks, I feel what makes TT worthwile are the contributions the members make, and this is mine... I haven't really gone after Wilsons in general when I've looked for racquets, but if I ever get my hands on an Ultra II I'll be sure to let you know the specs.

Dino Lagaffe · 11-30-2010, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud

Hey Dino... I have a favor to ask if you have a chance.

Hi Bud! Sounds interesting. It may take a little while before I can get it done, but will report back with the results.

Bud · 11-30-2010, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dino Lagaffe

Hi Bud! Sounds interesting. It may take a little while before I can get it done, but will report back with the results.

Thanks! Would really appreciate it

Dino Lagaffe · 12-11-2010, 12:02 PM

Fresh off the RDC-machine:

Racquet/Static weight (g/oz)/Flex/Swingweight/Balance cm

Avery M3 Mid+ 387/13.65/72/370/32 (Closest to the Power model, I guess.)
Donnay Diamant I 332/11.71/47/282/31 (NOS, unstrung, grip 4)
Donnay Diamant II 352/12.42/46/298/31 (NOS, unstrung, grip 5)
Donnay Pro Ceramic I 344/12.13/62/287/29.75 (NOS, unstrung, grip 4)
Donnay Pro Ceramic II 336/11.85/61/281/30.5 (NOS, unstrung, grip 5)
Dunlop Max 400I 364/12.84/44/344/31.75
Fischer VT Pro Classic 90 359/12.66/59/310/31
Head Prestige MG Mid 348/12.28/64/330/32
Prince Vortex OS 348/12.28/62/337/32.25
ProKennex Bronze Dominator 356/12.56/66/332/32.25
Rossignol F200 (Red) 346/12.21/38/358/34.75
Rossignol DT 6.40 358/12.63/54/329/31.5
Snauwaert MCE105.64GC 349/12.31/63/313/32
Snauwaert Miami 356/12.56/51/328/32.5
Völkl Quantom 5 266/9.38/67/287/34.75
Yonex RQ-500 304/10.72/60/297/33.25

vsbabolat · 12-11-2010, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dino Lagaffe

Fresh off the RDC-machine:

Racquet/Static weight (g/oz)/Flex/Swingweight/Balance cm

Avery M3 Mid+ 387/13.65/72/370/32 (Closest to the Power model, I guess.)
Donnay Diamant I 332/11.71/47/282/31 (NOS, unstrung, grip 4)
Donnay Diamant II 352/12.42/46/298/31 (NOS, unstrung, grip 5)
Donnay Pro Ceramic I 344/12.13/62/287/29.75 (NOS, unstrung, grip 4)
Donnay Pro Ceramic II 336/11.85/61/281/30.5 (NOS, unstrung, grip 5)
Dunlop Max 400I 364/12.84/44/344/31.75
Fischer VT Pro Classic 90 359/12.66/59/310/31
Head Prestige MG Mid 348/12.28/64/330/32
Prince Vortex OS 348/12.28/62/337/32.25
ProKennex Bronze Dominator 356/12.56/66/332/32.25
Rossignol F200 (Red) 346/12.21/38/358/34.75
Rossignol DT 6.40 358/12.63/54/329/31.5
Snauwaert MCE105.64GC 349/12.31/63/313/32
Snauwaert Miami 356/12.56/51/328/32.5
Völkl Quantom 5 266/9.38/67/287/34.75
Yonex RQ-500 304/10.72/60/297/33.25

Hey Dino! Would you be so kind as to post-up some photos of the Snauwaert Miami, Donnay Diamant, Donnay Diamant II, and the Sanuwaert MCE105.64GC.

Thank You in advance.

Dino Lagaffe · 12-12-2010, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

Hey Dino! Would you be so kind as to post-up some photos of the Snauwaert Miami, Donnay Diamant, Donnay Diamant II, and the Sanuwaert MCE105.64GC.

Thank You in advance.

Snauwaert pictures will come later.

About the Donnay Diamant, the Roman numerals I and II simply denote racquet 1 and 2, not different models. Sorry for the confusion, I'll change to a different system in the log later. There were two models though, a wooden one that I believe Virginia has posted about and the graphite one proracketeer has posted in the Donnay Code Book thread:

Picture by proracketeer!

dlk · 12-12-2010, 05:32 AM

Wow, had no clue that Rossignol made racquets at one time.

Dino Lagaffe · 12-12-2010, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlk

Wow, had no clue that Rossignol made racquets at one time.

You're more familiar with their skis maybe? There was a thread on companies that makes/made both skis and raquets.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=322033

Dino Lagaffe · 12-29-2010, 03:25 AM

Six more racquets:

Fischer Superform Speedmaster Mid 370/13.05/54/315/31
Prince Graphite Comp 90 358/12.63/54/334/31.5
Prince Magnesium Pro 110 341/12.03/60/319/32.5
Rossignol FGC 362/12.77/31/340/31.5
Snauwaert Graphite-Dyno 382/13.48/55/376/32.75
Wilson Sting Mid 367/12.95/61/330/32

pshulam · 12-29-2010, 05:23 AM

Dino,
Thanks for more updates. You must be having a tons of racquets by now.

Dino Lagaffe · 12-31-2010, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pshulam

Dino,
Thanks for more updates. You must be having a tons of racquets by now.

Yeah, it's adding up... And I try to update this log as I get new ones. Thanks for appreciating it.

nalvarado · 01-06-2011, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Head Prestige 600 (Grey+Lime) 350/12.35/60/307
Head Prestige Classic 355/12.52/60/331
Head Prestige Tour 660 349/12.31/56/331

Anyone know where the specs for the Prestige Tour 600 would fall?

Manaldo · 07-18-2011, 02:32 AM

That is great although it is old thread

Dino Lagaffe · 08-20-2011, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manaldo

That is great although it is old thread

Thanks. I'm trying to update it as I get new racquets, but that doesn't happen as often as it used to...

Dino Lagaffe · 12-08-2011, 12:29 PM

Fresh off the RDC-machine:

Racquet/Static weight (g/oz)/Flex/Swingweight/Balance cm

Prince Exo 3 Tour 16x18 341/12.03/54/341/32
Prince Tour Graphite (I) 355/12.52/65/332/31.75
Prince Tour Graphite (II) 355/12.52/63/325/31.5
Head Calibre 600 334/11.78/58/312/31.25
Head Calibre Tour 600 358/12.63/58/323/32
Head Radical Tour 630 1998 (I) 343/12.10/57/319/32
Head Radical Tour 630 1998 (II) 346/12.21/58/316/31.75
Head Radical Tour 630 1998 (III) 335/11.82/59/316/32.25

Dino Lagaffe · 12-20-2011, 11:24 AM

One 1998 Head Radical Tour 630 is now Capped and shrink sleeved. Below are the stats before and after.

Before: 335/11.82/59/316/32.25
After: 361/12.73/59/319/30.5

morten · 12-21-2011, 12:42 AM

Thanks Dino

Mike Bulgakov · 12-29-2011, 10:53 AM

Dino, thanks for all the information about these racquets. What was the condition of the Rossignol F200 (Red) (346/12.21/38/358/34.75)? Was the F200 really that flexible when new? Also, have you ever tested the Fischer Pro Classic 98?

kalic · 12-29-2011, 10:37 PM

Thanks Dino, and keep up good work

11-30-2010, 06:15 PM	#41
Bud Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 29,086	Hey Dino... I have a favor to ask if you have a chance. We're having a debate in the stringing machine forum here at TT concerning swingweight. Others have reported that any weight added to a frame, below the pivot point will result in a decrease in SW... which is physically impossible. I'd like to verify it one more time on a different machine to determine if this is an idiosyncrasy of the RDC machine. My question is this: The next time you have a racquet on the RDC machine, after determining the swingweight, would you attach/add an additional 10-20 grams of weight as close to the butt cap as you can and then re-run the swingweight test? The weight can be taped to the end or added inside the buttcap. If you can do this, I'd like to know the following: Racquet model Length Weight Balance Swingweight (stock) Swingweight (with added weight) Amount of extra weight added to the buttcap Approximate distance weight is added from the pivot point of the RDC machine (should be 8-9 cm, I believe) Thanks! Last edited by Bud : 11-30-2010 at 07:46 PM.

12-11-2010, 12:02 PM	#45
Dino Lagaffe Professional Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 955	Fresh off the RDC-machine: Racquet/Static weight (g/oz)/Flex/Swingweight/Balance cm Avery M3 Mid+ 387/13.65/72/370/32 (Closest to the Power model, I guess.) Donnay Diamant I 332/11.71/47/282/31 (NOS, unstrung, grip 4) Donnay Diamant II 352/12.42/46/298/31 (NOS, unstrung, grip 5) Donnay Pro Ceramic I 344/12.13/62/287/29.75 (NOS, unstrung, grip 4) Donnay Pro Ceramic II 336/11.85/61/281/30.5 (NOS, unstrung, grip 5) Dunlop Max 400I 364/12.84/44/344/31.75 Fischer VT Pro Classic 90 359/12.66/59/310/31 Head Prestige MG Mid 348/12.28/64/330/32 Prince Vortex OS 348/12.28/62/337/32.25 ProKennex Bronze Dominator 356/12.56/66/332/32.25 Rossignol F200 (Red) 346/12.21/38/358/34.75 Rossignol DT 6.40 358/12.63/54/329/31.5 Snauwaert MCE105.64GC 349/12.31/63/313/32 Snauwaert Miami 356/12.56/51/328/32.5 Völkl Quantom 5 266/9.38/67/287/34.75 Yonex RQ-500 304/10.72/60/297/33.25 __________________ J'apprécie plus le pain, le pâté, le saucisson, que les limitations de vitesse. (J. Chirac)

12-12-2010, 05:32 AM	#48
dlk Hall Of Fame Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 2,212	Wow, had no clue that Rossignol made racquets at one time. __________________ All in All is All We Are

12-29-2010, 03:25 AM	#50
Dino Lagaffe Professional Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 955	Six more racquets: Fischer Superform Speedmaster Mid 370/13.05/54/315/31 Prince Graphite Comp 90 358/12.63/54/334/31.5 Prince Magnesium Pro 110 341/12.03/60/319/32.5 Rossignol FGC 362/12.77/31/340/31.5 Snauwaert Graphite-Dyno 382/13.48/55/376/32.75 Wilson Sting Mid 367/12.95/61/330/32 __________________ J'apprécie plus le pain, le pâté, le saucisson, que les limitations de vitesse. (J. Chirac)

12-29-2010, 05:23 AM	#51
pshulam Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,351	Dino, Thanks for more updates. You must be having a tons of racquets by now. __________________ "In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity." Albert Einstein