Flat serves, Kick serves VIDEO included!

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by Failed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFMpD0ZmLoI This is from year ago, I used to have a more of a "normal" serve before Things kinda progressed on their own.

Your older serve was better in some ways - primarily because it had less superfluous movements. Sure the newer one might be as or more effective in practice - but the risk is a windy day or when you're really tired in a 3rd set or playing a good returner that it'll be less reliable. That's when the additional movements often start to become an issue and why go-to service motions like Federer's, Ivanisevic's etc are generally un-cluttered.

[gregor.b]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Your older serve was better in some ways - primarily because it had less superfluous movements. Sure the newer one might be as or more effective in practice - but the risk is a windy day or when you're really tired in a 3rd set or playing a good returner that it'll be less reliable. That's when the additional movements often start to become an issue and why go-to service motions like Federer's, Ivanisevic's etc are generally un-cluttered.

Agree. The older motion was less glitchy. Simpler is better. Small refinements are the best way to improve.

[willroc7]

Just want to say you have a very nice serve. I wish mine was half as good. The only things I can offer that might not be completely ideal are your elbow position in trophy pose and your toss arm movement. You could probably get your hitting elbow a little lower and closer into the body. Second, and it's hard to tell if you're already doing this in the video, but if you actively pull your toss arm down and into the body, after it's straight up in the air, to initiate your swing, it will help get your shoulder turn started.

[djoko4thewin]

Very nice serves, like to see people doing this more. All i can say is that your old service motion looks perfect but now it's end product is good but as had been said has kinks and more chance of going wrong IMO.