Bjorn Borg is the GOAT

[aphex]

I agree, Borg is the BOAT.
Boringest of all time.

[JoelDali]

GOATing

[tusharlovesrafa]

Originally Posted by aphex

I agree, Borg is the BOAT.

for once I concur

[Talker]

You can not only use age, you can use number of years from first to last slam and do some calculations like slams/yr average etc.

[TMF]

To the OP: In 2009 Borg declare Roger is the greatest tennis player of all time. If you knew it all along, you wouldn't create this thread. Don't feel too bad since you are new to tennis.

[helloworld]

Borg not being able to win one of the biggest majors the US Open is really a big hole in his legacy. Borg is definitely the upper tier of all-time greats, but calling him GOAT is pushing it too much.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by aphex

I agree, Borg is the BOAT.
Boringest of all time.

Your avatar is close to beating Borg in the BOAT category.

[MixieP]

No logic or reasoning needed: Borg is and will always be the Greatest.

[pc1]

Originally Posted by TMF

To the OP: In 2009 Borg declare Roger is the greatest tennis player of all time. If you knew it all along, you wouldn't create this thread. Don't feel too bad since you are new to tennis.

I think that was when Laver, Borg and Sampras were honoring Federer so what would you expect Borg to say? Sampras said the same thing but he took it back and I don't think he ever believed it. I think Sampras thinks Sampras is the GOAT. Laver said the same thing and yet he said later he would love to play Federer with a wood racquet and that he wasn't afraid of anyone with a wood racquet.

Basically I think most of these guys, including Federer believe that they themselves are the best. Nothing wrong with that because that is what drives them to be great.

Nadal always says Federer is the GOAT but you know he feels that he should beat Federer every time they play.

[TMF]

Originally Posted by helloworld

Borg not being able to win one of the biggest majors the US Open is really a big hole in his legacy. Borg is definitely the upper tier of all-time greats, but calling him GOAT is pushing it too much.

Then you don't have any problem with Pete having a big hole in his legacy for not winning the FO.

Try not to be biased by having the double standard.

Originally Posted by pc1

I think Sampras thinks Sampras is the GOAT.

GOAT without a RG title? No way.

[kishnabe]

Bjorn Borg could have won many more slams. He defintly was better than Willander and Lendl on clay....so for those years he could have won a few more frenches.

Wimbledon....maybe 1 or 2 more if he hand't given up....McEnroe only came around in 1984. 1982 he was there for the picking and 1983 he wasn't as great. Connors was his pet dog. AO open...howerver he didn't play it so it pointless to say he will win.

Maybe had he played after 1981 then he could have bagged one or two. Should have kept going for the US open....I believed he would have scored in 1982 nd 1983.....Connors should have been beatable at that time for Borg.


Still this has never happened....he is stuck at 11 majors and will never be goat but he will be a great.

[Nathaniel_Near]

Borg is getting way too much love in this thread. An uber rival had just arrived and Borg had already been a top pro for many years and was mentally getting burned out from his long and illustrious period at the top of the sport.

Borg was worth 11 - 14 Major titles (11 Slam events and someone would have to verify which of his 3 YEC wins were considered as a Major victory , I know that when Ashe won it in 1975 it was directly referred to by commentators as his first Major since 1969).

That's it, that's all, that was his worth and that was what he was good for. What if statements are utterly bizarre given that he retired himself and was mentally tiring and also probably physically on the verge of slowly degrading. It's not like he got shot or shattered his wrists and legs in a motorcycle accident.

What can't be questioned is that Borg was a great great player and one of the more iconic legends of tennis.

[helloworld]

Originally Posted by TMF

Then you don't have any problem with Pete having a big hole in his legacy for not winning the FO.

Try not to be biased by having the double standard.

Pete does have a big hole in his resume, the French Open. How am I being double standard when I never declared Pete as GOAT??

[zagor]

I don't know if he's the overall GOAT, certainly a candidate in my book, his domination of polar opposites in clay and grass is an amazing achievement.

He's the claycourt GOAT though, no question about it.

Originally Posted by purge

go for the eyes boo. GO FOR THE EYES!

Hamsters and rangers everywhere! Rejoice!

[zagor]

Originally Posted by helloworld

Pete does have a big hole in his resume, the French Open. How am I being double standard when I never declared Pete as GOAT??

Yes but Borg reached 3 USO finals on HC, Pete never got past SF at FO.

[RF_fan]

Originally Posted by forehand_dude

But it was a standard part of the culture not to play the AO back then. To make a fair comparison, if Federer had only played one AO he would have 12 majors. If he had only played one AO and also retired at age 26, he would have 9 majors.

11 > 9, so Borg > Federer

If an aunt had testicles - she'd be an uncle.

[LameTennisPlayer]

Originally Posted by accidental

Honestly, that's what I call a cool story bro. Such a riveting tale, I honestly copy and pasted it to word, saved on my hard drive, backed it up on a usb drive, drove to the bank, put the usb drive in the safe deposit box, and will leave it there until my kids turn about 12 (when they can actually state their age, and ask what it is I'm showing them), when I will pick it up, put it in an old USB drive reader and relay this cool story to them and tell them, "kids, this is what a cool story should look and sound like...not like the stories your generation tells."

hahahaha thats the funniest thing ive read all day

[helloworld]

Originally Posted by zagor

Yes but Borg reached 3 USO finals on HC, Pete never got past SF at FO.

You're missing the point here. The point is he didn't have the title. Again, we're not comparing Sampras to Borg here. Why are you bringing Pete up anyway? We're talking about Borg here, not Pete.

[Cup8489]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

Bjorn Borg could have won many more slams. He defintly was better than Willander and Lendl on clay....so for those years he could have won a few more frenches.

Wimbledon....maybe 1 or 2 more if he hand't given up....McEnroe only came around in 1984. 1982 he was there for the picking and 1983 he wasn't as great. Connors was his pet dog. AO open...howerver he didn't play it so it pointless to say he will win.

Maybe had he played after 1981 then he could have bagged one or two. Should have kept going for the US open....I believed he would have scored in 1982 nd 1983.....Connors should have been beatable at that time for Borg.


Still this has never happened....he is stuck at 11 majors and will never be goat but he will be a great.

who's to say Jmac wouldn't have been better if borg had been around? he's said a couple of times that he felt uninterested in the sport after borg retired, at least up until 84.