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The old pros like Najuch or Maskell, even Nuesslein made money mainly by giving tennis lessons. That made them ineligible for all official tournaments. Von Cramm came from a pretty rich family, and always stayed amateur. He had however good contacts with the outcast pros, he often trained with Tilden, played pro am matches with Nuesslein, and if i recall it right played some exos in Germany with pro Budge after the war. He organized some pro tours in Germany by Budge, Riggs and Betz and others, to rebuild some German sports structures and international contacts, which were destroyed during the war. Germany was banned from the Olympics in 1948, and excluded from all major international competitions. I think, von Cramm was the first German sportsman, who got invited to France and England.
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I always found his marriage to Barbara Hutton unusual.
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Most of the celebrities, politicians and movie stars of today are homos as well,nothing has changed. Eyes wide shut as usual.
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How good was Brian Gottfried?
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It was a loss to Bromwich: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...=7178%2C550616. Von Cramm was so rarely defeated in five-setters, but suddenly in the summer of '37 he lost three (two to Budge). |
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Riggs was right about Budge's stamina in the postwar years. That list of five-setters may not be complete, but it's clear that by the late '40s he was losing five-set matches frequently. And Riggs was right that Budge lost the '36 US final to Perry due to poor stamina. Budge did not quite collapse there (it went to 10-8 in the fifth) but by all accounts, including his own, he was gassed. I mentioned that in '36 Budge decided to get fit and never to lose another match due to poor stamina. I said his decision came before the Perry match, but I checked again in Fisher, and it was the loss to Perry that prompted Budge to make that decision. Just going by his five-set record in the next couple of years, the decision seems to have paid off. And in the big Davis Cup match it was actually von Cramm who tired first, according to a few press reports. Von Cramm said himself a few weeks later, when he arrived in America, that he tired in the match (though he quickly added that Budge was playing well enough to beat him anyway). Last edited by krosero : 01-09-2012 at 08:19 PM. |
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The von Cramm interview I referred to took place when he arrived in New York on August 23rd aboard the Queen Mary. Excerpt from the NY Times:
******************** The Baron was a very confident young man as the huge ship moved up the river toward the pier. He was more than anxious for a return meeting with Donald Budge, and is looking forward with keen interest to the national singles championships at Forest Hills next month. There, if all goes well, the two will battle it out in the final. Baron Uses English Accent The odd part about von Cramm’s confidence is that he rates Budge as perhaps a better player than Fred Perry. Speaking with a clipped English accent, Oxford style, that was as surprising as the statement he made, the Baron said: “I think that perhaps Budge is a superior player to Perry. Fred is a remarkably steady performer but your American boy is capable of reaching far greater heights of play.” As for his anticipated meeting with his conqueror at Wimbledon and in the Davis Cup interzone final, the blond, good-looking Baron declared rather ruefully that Budge would have the advantage on him in playing in his own country and under more familiar conditions. “But,” he said, “I feel very fit. I really had intended making my debut in America last season but pneumonia spoiled my plans. Now I am here at last and I want to make my visit a memorable one.” The 28-year-old German has neither illusions nor delusions of grandeur. Although confident of his own talents and of his ability to turn his tennis into cash, von Cramm stated very flatly that he never would turn professional and that “they won’t catch me no matter what they propose.” ...When Budge and von Cramm clashed in the final and deciding match of the Davis Cup interzone play, they divided the first four sets and the German had a 4-1 lead in the last one. Eventually the American won the set, 8-6, but there was some curiosity as to whether or not the Reich racquet-swinger had believed himself on the brink of victory. “Not a bit of it,” he declared. “Budge played poorly when I broke service on him and I knew that the reaction would inspire him to greater heights. I had hit my peak and was due for a slump myself. I was tired at Wimbledon that time, but Don played so magnificently that I doubt that I could have stopped him anyway.” |
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As always if anyone has further information please feel welcome to share! Unfortunately von Cramm's Wikipedia page doesn't have a performance timeline, but I've put this list together: Played Australian 1938 – lost to Bromwich in semis, straights Played Roland Garros 1931 – lost to Lott in R16, straights 1932 – lost to Sertorio in R64, walkover [1933 – allowed to enter only the doubles] 1934 – champion 1935 – lost to Perry in final, four sets 1936 – champion 1952 – lost to Martinez, R128, walkover Played Wimbledon 1931 – lost to Perry in R16, straights 1932 – lost to Boussus in R64, four sets 1933 – lost to Sutter in R32, straights 1934 – lost to Kirby in R16, four sets 1935 – lost to Perry in final, straights 1936 – lost to Perry in final, straights 1937 – lost to Budge in final, straights 1951 – lost to Drobny, R128, straights Played US Nationals 1937 – lost to Budge in final, five sets |
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Brian Gottfried was excellent...but Gottfried Von Cramm was even better.
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More on the 1936 RG final, by William Roberston in American Lawn Tennis:
*********************** The singles ran more or less true to form, and the final was a tennis lesson by von Cramm. It can be admitted that Perry failed to hold his concentration throughout the match, but I doubt under any circumstances if he would have won. His poor start put him in a hole that he could not get out of. It took all of his concentration to pull even, and each time he suffered a relapse and von Cramm was off to the races. I doubt if ever there has been a final where one man played more perfect tennis than von Cramm did. His mistakes could be counted on your fingers. Every shot had a purpose and the way he manoeuvered Perry out of position and then went in and scored the point was a marvel to see. He started the match by attacking Perry’s forehand and following it to the net. These tactics caught Fred time and time again, as he was covering his backhand side. Then, as the match progressed, von Cramm kept playing the forehand side of Perry but not attacking it. He would wait till he had Fred covering that side of the court, and then he would attack Fred’s backhand and take the net. In other words he had Fred guessing all the time. He also brought off a number of drop shots which Perry managed to retrieve, but found himself passed by von Cramm’s next shot, which was usually a backhand crosscourt. In the fifth set von Cramm began to follow his service to the net, with good results. All during the match he had followed it in only when behind 30-40 or 15-40 in game score. His high bounding service to Perry’s backhand usually brought a weak return, and in the fifth set Fred could not handle it at all. Von Cramm may not have played the best Perry, but on that day he would have beaten anyone. He has worked hard on his tennis all winter and he now is a most complete player. He has developed a good chop and a drop shot that caught even Perry, and that’s something! *********************** |
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TIME magazine profiled von Cramm as the US Championships got underway in '37. Excerpt below in two parts.
One of the most fiercely competitive of all games, amateur tennis has no international championship. To answer the constantly perplexing question as to who is the best amateur player in the world, the chief contenders must rely on meeting either in team play for the Davis Cup or in the grand tour's series of national championships. In the days when Tilden, Richards and Johnston were the world's three top-ranking players and the U. S. won the Davis Cup with monotonous regularity, the U. S. Singles was as great a championship as any tennist could win. Since then a new generation of players, headed by the gaunt-faced figure of England's Frederick John Perry, has shifted the spotlight inexorably to Wimbledon. For the past four years Forest Hills has been notable to tennists chiefly because Fred Perry appeared there. |
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Since then Gottfried von Cramm, the only great post-War player in a country where until recently tennis and squash courts were discouragingly rare, has put Germany into the Davis Cup interzone final four times (1932-35-36-37). He has played 74 Davis Cup matches and lost only 14, five in his first season. He has defeated every leading amateur in the world. Last year in the French champion ships, fortified by a cleaner backhand stroke he had learned from William Tatem Tilden, he beat Fred Perry for the title. Then the following month at Wimbledon he strained a thigh muscle and lost to Perry in the final. |
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Here's the entry on Gottfried von Cramm in the 1938 edition of "Ayres' Lawn Tennis Almanack" (for 1937):
"von Cramm, Baron Gottfried. B. July 7, 1909. In 1931 represented Germany at Wimbledon and won London Doubles Champs. (with Jacques Brugnon); in 1932 represented Germany in Davis Cup v. India, Ireland, Great Britain (defeating Bunny Austin), Italy and in inter-zone final against America (defeating Frank Shields), won German singles and mixed doubles champs. [with Hilde Krahwinkel] and Berlin doubles champs.; ranked no. 8 in World's 'First Ten'; in 1933, again won German Champs., also mixed double champs. (with Hilde Krahwinkel) at Wimbledon; in 1934 won French Champs. at Auteuil, defeating Jack Crawford in final, retained German Champs. and won Danish Champs.; in 1935 was finalist in French Champs. and at Wimbledon, mainly responsible for Germany winning European Zone of Davis Cup (beating Jack Crawford, Vivian McGrath and Roderich Menzel), retained German Champs.; ranked no. 3 in World's First Ten; in 1936 was ranked no. 2, won French Champs. (defeating Fred Perry in final) and in final at Wimbledon, defeating Austin; assisted Germany to win European Zone Davis Cup fourth time, beat Jean Borotra in Paris; in 1937 represented Germany in Davis Cup team which won European Zone fifth year; led Budge 4-1 in fifth set of fifth match at Wimbledon in inter-zone contest v. USA; in final of singles at Wimbledon and of American Champs.; won USA doubles champs., French doubles champs. and Butler Cup doubles at Monte Carlo (all with Henner Henkel); won Japanese singles and doubles champs. at Tokyo and toured Australia. "Address: Dernburg, Strasse 35, Berlin, C.3" ------ Last edited by newmark401 : 03-08-2013 at 06:15 AM. |
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