Wrestling Discussion Thread

[Fed Kennedy]

Finally a thread on TT that addresses the most important issues facing mankind. (pun intended)

All I have to say is that Cena sucks.

[Ronaldo]

Originally Posted by Fed Kennedy

Finally a thread on TT that addresses the most important issues facing mankind. (pun intended)

All I have to say is that Cena sucks.

Mankind and Antonio Sabato Jr. wife swap last nite

[maverick66]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

Orton's better as a heel than as a face. His stuff w/ HHH-the McMahons in the buildup to WM 25 was legendary stuff, probably the closest WWE's come to the Attitude Era the past few years. On that alone I'd say he'd be a great heel even during the 90s.

As a face he's much weaker, but he's still a good 2nd/3rd fiddle behind Cena and any face that gets hot (right now it's Punk, in the future it could be Sheamus). He's not a top top guy, but he's still one of the most recognizable guys in the company and has grown into the face role well.

I like him, but I know a lot of people flat out hate him now. Some even more than Cena. Orton's the opposite of Cena in that he does whatever he wants, breaks the rules, is a bad ***, etc. So for that alone a lot of people like him.

I think Orton would have thrived in the Attitude era. he could have unleashed the whole never know when he is gonna snap gig much better during those days. As it is now he is held back like much of the roster in the name of pg. Is he Stone Cold or the Rock no, but he could have been right in that next tier of guys with the occasional push into the higher ups.

I do agree about the rko. Its getting stale. He hit something like 5 guys with it the other night in a row and they where almost identical each time. He has a long way to go before he touches the Diamond cutter.

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

I'm surprised he's done so well as a face so quickly. I thought he'd be a good face but not this good and this over with the crowd. He's just a big likeable guy who kicks ***.

Another guy who I think will be great once he turns face is the Miz. My bold prediction is that Miz will be the face of the company once Cena's time is up.

sheamus is a bigger finley. They give off that i love to fight attitude. people get behind that and fast. you dont even really need to say much when your like that just go out and beat people up. I wish he would stop the Irish sayings thing especially when they dont apply to the situation.

I just dont get what the Miz does that is so great. On Raw he came out and just kept saying really to Kofi. how is that anything but i have no clue what to say and will just do this. Cena half buried him when they feuded and made him look so weak. heels need clean wins here and there to look good not so weak that they need a sidekick to squeak out wins or even compete.

[Fed Kennedy]

None of these dudes can touch the rocks mic skills, the rock is on another level.
This match may decide the presidency.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by hollywood9826

I think thats what alot poeple think about Orton.

Flair and Hunter tried very hard to make Orton the man. He got every chance you can have. He has all the talent to be on the level with the greats of all time, but it just dont work for me for some reason.

If they want to give him the RKO, at least let him use it like DDP and pull it off from every different position imaginable instead of just jumping into the guys backwars and letting him do all the work.

DDP would hit that from the top and 2nd ropes out of firemens carrys and every toher position imaginable. The RKO is just getting stale to me.

Yeah I miss that Diamond Cutter, haha. I want to see Orton RKO out of a sharpshooter.

[hollywood9826]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

He does mix it up a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NouCT8Irsxc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhXmn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM6zN...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkrhR...eature=related

Its alittle bit different, but for some reason Its just so obvious that the other guy is doing 100% of the work selling the move. The Orton gets up and almost looks surprised that it turned out so good. He isnt known behind the scenes as one that goes out of his way to sell other peoples moves.

Also forgot all about Johnny Ace pllin it off before any of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Dvq...eature=related

Ace and DDP dont jump so high in the air, I think thats where the RKO loses it sluster for me.

[ClairHarmony]

Alls I know is that I wanna be that funny little Italian guy walking around with a sock puppet...that strikes like a cobra! In the face of any hatorade Gladiator that dares stand in the face of his dreams. Man, that guy must get all the chicks. And, btw, did I tell you about the time I met, completely bumped into and looked up into the towering inferno of bulging disco mass that is Batista?
I said, wait a miniute, "Whoa...hey...?!!!" Just like a kid again, he was getting out of a chauferred courtesy Mercedes, with his traveler's bag, he could've looked like any other tourist, but he wasn't. I asked not for his autograph for a kid that I don't have, but...if I had? There is only very little doubt in me, that he would have given it to me. I don't want to sound, little homeo erotic, but this man was huuuuger than a rock the size of Boulder, Colorado. I mean honestly, there are no muscles that I've seen that can describe just how incredibly broad shouldered this man's shoulders were, and yet he kept a low profile. Was caught off guard, but not surprised by my instantaneous, "Hey...," though I don't watch wrestling like I'm still in the Shawn Michaels Rocker's era anymore...back when people didn't look at you funny when wearing streaking blond mullets to school...and, oh man, was I coool...still rockin' my new old school, New Jersey Gear high tops, y'all...with neon fungus growing out of them, now, (sorry, the leather's all chewed up now, so you know...).

My overwhelming impression was that, you know, we had a moment. We shared the same space and time, and when forced to look down to look up (sorry...my neon green toe fungus is so catchy, perhaps even a little bit smelly, or so, I've sensed for awhile now...), but this time was different. He may been the largest man made terrorizing machine I've ever seen in the flesh, large enough to not need to stand on mountains, to pull-down, preterrydactyl flying terrors that fly from the sky, back in the caveman days, for his little lady, and charming haromonies, "Please, daddy, we feel like eating pre-terrydactyl, terriyaki, sushi birds today." He seemed like a *genuinely* good guy, muscles that block the air, sure...but there's only so much you can tell about a man in a moment.

It was a glimmering moment, for sure. In the legendary hotel, there was a beauty pageant contestant going on at the same time, but he was just another guy checking in. Who kept his eyes to the ground, who looked down on the ground, but not at you. I caught him off guard, then we both nodded off in appreciative acknowledgment...the kind that does not depreciate over time. He knew, he appreciated, that I knew who he was...but did not really care, because I respected him, and saw that he was still just a man...even though his muscles were huge.

This just-in, way to go Google! You've just ruined my reinterpretation of Batista. Before...our eyes crossed paths, I thought he was a big, brute stiff with a heart of gold, when Eddie died unexpectedly, his tears sure looked real to me...but no real charisma of his own. I truly thought that it was his intimidating once in a man-made God physique that had shoved him to the top of the ranks, where he moved stiffly, albeit chiseled, he was not at all like that other Big Guy with similiar enough proportions, just slightly more jiggly, but he moved with *verve.* I'm talking about the ROCK, baby! You know? Now, that's a once in a lifetime, for I saw the VH1 special on his life, and so I know for sure what a genuine down to good earth person he really is. He's the kind of person, who'd eat out of a bucket of fried chicken on a street corner with a homeless bum, just laughing and having a good time, to make you feeel good, a better, more realer version than the real Will Smith.

But, after referencing Google right now, I learned that Batista was not known as a good guy backstage. But people can change, even Shawn Michaels changed. So I continue to believe that Batista is no diva, and that all those hot beauty pageant conventional chicks, who like clockwork, almost soon immediately thereafter, came out to smoke weed in between rounds, on a break, just after an early dinner...were not tempted to sleep with him, the bellman's face all covered up in bellman's clothing, I hardly even noticed..and, he, the star, the sexy man beast star who could still be so much better in life, could still travel, progress not regress so much further, with them. Just because he and they can, and could, and maybe did...hopefully they didn't, before the curtain fell that night.

Were it me, I would have preferred to bump into the Miz that day. Because, I saw him on the Real World, for ALL of those most critical, in between moments, I believe I know the real him. And, he is good, and I am proud of him. Though it does not matter now, but I remember how that constantly singing chic, and no one, really took this somewhat big, but not really ovelry THAT big (I mean he couldn't have been much bigger than the normal, everyday, big man, Jim Courier sized, beer garden/construction worker's ball, big...), and yet he still tried to impress. Only I don't think he was, that was just him, a loveable, bigger than average, big goof, who loves life, loves ALL kinds of people, and truly just LOOOOVEEESSS...wrestling. And such enthusiam for life, no matter the pursuit, no matter what the Jones's think of you, I think makes this guy pretty special.

Honestly, I did not think the Miz would ever have what it takes to be taken seriously, as just another dreamer, wannabe, pro wrestler who thinks he has a larger than life persona...and something to offer the world. But, he did. And, I bet that constantly singing chic all the time, breaking MTV's fine wine glasses around the house, did not ever in a million years think this ordinary buffoon with a Dino sized heart of gold, would go on, one day, to become the greatest, make-believe champion of the whole world...yeah, in a real fight, Andre the Giant, would probably just sit on him for the pin, but still, it's nice to think that big glory can still be achieved by ordinary, Jim Courier sized men.

I think the that Miz is one of the greatest, most improbable, comeback...awesomer, even more awesome when you comeback, just as humble and true, to your dream roots, stories in the world. I can still remember him returning the now emtpy Real World pad, to call it..."And, the MIzz-z-z...is out," but not dead. I don't care about the man's skills, I just think having a man sized heart, in a jaded grown-up world, is what's make you unique, what makes you special. And, the Miz can talk all he wants to fans like me around the world now, because he is the Zimost inspiring, and I just wanted to say thank you to Vince McMahon, for making the Miz not have to lick your CEO's ruthless, alligator boot sheen to make it all happen. I thank, Stephanie McMahon for being the candy apple...frilly, of his father's eyes, to make him feel everyday, like a more grateful, nicer guy than he ever was before. Our tales are not yet undone, I love it when people become who they were always meant to be, believers in good people, still instilling within us, the good and righteous things alone.

[Kevin T]

I wanted to post a 'booger eater' alert when the thread started but didn't want to be a hater.

In all seriousness, how old are the wrestling fans posting here (I'm 37 yo)? Not being a wise-arse, just curious. I loved me some rasslin' up through high school but I can't even look at anymore.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by Kevin T

I wanted to post a 'booger eater' alert when the thread started but didn't want to be a hater.

In all seriousness, how old are the wrestling fans posting here (I'm 37 yo)? Not being a wise-arse, just curious. I loved me some rasslin' up through high school but I can't even look at anymore.

I'm 22. Been watching since '96. Around the mid 2000s I stopped watching for awhile but got back into it in 2009. It's really the only TV show I watch regularly outside of PTI. I don't see what the stigma is. As long as you treat it for what it is and don't take it TOO seriously.

Speaking of, I had to present a speech today in my Voice and Diction class and we had to use a monologue from a short story, poem, movie, or play. I used Punk's infamous shoot promo from last summer, and surprisingly wasn't laughed out of the room for being a wrasslin' fanboy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OS9wZGb_3g

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Kind of miss the days when WCW Nitro was still on. Because on every commercial, I'd switch between Nitro and Raw, and not do homework at all. DDP was always diamond cutting some fool, Stone Cold was always stunning some fool, Lex Luger always had someone in the torture rack, finally, Undertaker and Kane chokeslamming each other.

Ah, those were the days.

[Fed Kennedy]

Post of the year from Clairharmony? Hilarious.
Wrestling is probably the best source of news coverage in America. It is on par with Fox and Cnn.
I watch simply to find out what is going on in my country.

[LeeD]

BigShow vs MarkReynolds vs who's that other "7'" supposedly Indian guy?

[jamesblakefan#1]

**SPOILER**

Supposedly this is the match we'll see at WM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTjVzAPNnE

[MichaelNadal]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

I'm surprised he's done so well as a face so quickly. I thought he'd be a good face but not this good and this over with the crowd. He's just a big likeable guy who kicks ***.

Another guy who I think will be great once he turns face is the Miz. My bold prediction is that Miz will be the face of the company once Cena's time is up.

Oh God, that will be the day I stop watching then.

[Servace]

I am worried about Kharma. I wonder if the baby is okay since she came back way to early. The baby must of been premature or ......... "lets not think about the other thing"

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by Servace

I am worried about Kharma. I wonder if the baby is okay since she came back way to early. The baby must of been premature or ......... "lets not think about the other thing"

TMZ says the baby was born New Years' Eve.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/31/wwe-di.../#.Tyoau8i6SuI

[MichaelNadal]

Originally Posted by Servace

I am worried about Kharma. I wonder if the baby is okay since she came back way to early. The baby must of been premature or ......... "lets not think about the other thing"

I lovvvve Kharma and can't wait till she's back full time. God knows the Diva's division needs SERIOUS help.

[Andres]

I actually stopped watching when Bret retired and Owen died. I was a big Hart's fan. I don't know any of the new wrestlers, other than the eventual Youtube video

[Servace]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

TMZ says the baby was born New Years' Eve.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/31/wwe-di.../#.Tyoau8i6SuI

Woot! Ty for the info! But wow it took her only a few weeks to get back to her wrestling shape. Time to shake up the diva's division again.

[hollywood9826]

Kharma has never exactly appeared in shape.

Not sure what they do with the womens division. But how can any woman besides beth and natayle be halfway belivable in the ring with Kharma. The only way someone could win is by cheating. And all for a cheating heel diva. Especially if shes hot.