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Old 02-28-2012, 04:11 PM   #2801
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Played my best match of the year tonight. It was all working for me. Feet were moving, knees were bending, eyes were focused on the ball 99% of the time, serve was clicking. The guy I played tonight is an incredible returner and I don't even think I faced a break point! String is still hanging in there. TW prepare for the onslaught of orders!
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:15 PM   #2802
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Played my best match of the year tonight. It was all working for me. Feet were moving, knees were bending, eyes were focused on the ball 99% of the time, serve was clicking. The guy I played tonight is an incredible returner and I don't even think I faced a break point! String is still hanging in there. TW prepare for the onslaught of orders!
OMG...I was afraid of this!
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:43 PM   #2803
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great to hear you are moving around fairly well again!

With a few days of low temps my left knee has been suffering. I was having trouble walking yesterday...so much so that I was considering using my cane. Today was warmer and much much better!
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:52 PM   #2804
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Thunder Blast does not have that random springiness of RIP Control. Spin is pretty good with it and when you hit the sweet spot, it has an X1 like feel. Still, it is stiffer than PPA no question about it. I believe MultiFeel changed their formula and is stiffer now.
I read about it, but never experienced the random springiness of RIP Control. I felt it produced a consistent, but fairly dead string bed. RIPC isn't one of those strings I'd say opens a racquet's sweetspot. Maybe that springiness was coming from hitting the sweetspot (which might explain why I didn't notice it) while the rest of the string bed was relatively dead . I could begin to see what some people would like about RIPC, but it's quite far from what I am looking for in a string. If TB is more like RIPC than PPA, it's on the wrong side of the fence, for me.

Regarding TFMF, I assume you are saying the current stuff is stiffer than PPA. Are you able to say whether it's closer to RIP or to PPA, in terms of stiffness?
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If you shop for bargains you don't have to pay that much for a premium quality string.
Doesn't seem to happen often, but when TW offers 3 sets of Gamma Pro for $40, it becomes very attractive.

EDIT: Looks like TW is offering Gamma Pro for $13.30 a set when you buy 3 or more.
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:31 PM   #2805
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Has anyone tried the PPA 17?
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:43 AM   #2806
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Has anyone tried the PPA 17?
I have some PPA 17 queued up for my next string job. Have Biphase 17 installed now. I like the X1B, but it is starting to loosen up already after about 6 hrs.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:13 AM   #2807
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Played my best match of the year tonight. It was all working for me. Feet were moving, knees were bending, eyes were focused on the ball 99% of the time, serve was clicking. The guy I played tonight is an incredible returner and I don't even think I faced a break point! String is still hanging in there. TW prepare for the onslaught of orders!
What string set up? I'm still experimenting on the budget end. Have a few rackets with OGSM 17 and a few with Isospeed Baseline Control 16. Also finishing off my Forten sweet 16 maybe getting a reel of Forten Sweet 17 cause I love its playability.

Still pondering if 3.5 Saephanh (me) should spring for gut... But i have time as my rackets will be taking a while to get here.
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:29 AM   #2808
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OMG...I was afraid of this!
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great to hear you are moving around fairly well again!

With a few days of low temps my left knee has been suffering. I was having trouble walking yesterday...so much so that I was considering using my cane. Today was warmer and much much better!
It was up in the low 80s when we played yesterday with no wind. The warm weather definitely helped.


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I read about it, but never experienced the random springiness of RIP Control. I felt it produced a consistent, but fairly dead string bed. RIPC isn't one of those strings I'd say opens a racquet's sweetspot. Maybe that springiness was coming from hitting the sweetspot (which might explain why I didn't notice it) while the rest of the string bed was relatively dead . I could begin to see what some people would like about RIPC, but it's quite far from what I am looking for in a string. If TB is more like RIPC than PPA, it's on the wrong side of the fence, for me.

Regarding TFMF, I assume you are saying the current stuff is stiffer than PPA. Are you able to say whether it's closer to RIP or to PPA, in terms of stiffness?

Doesn't seem to happen often, but when TW offers 3 sets of Gamma Pro for $40, it becomes very attractive.

EDIT: Looks like TW is offering Gamma Pro for $13.30 a set when you buy 3 or more.
PPA is one of the few multis that I feel confident flattening out balls with. I had zero confidence with RIP Control. Just never knew quite what the response off the string bed would be. If you buy 3 sets of Gamma Pro, send me one. I do have PayPal.


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I have some PPA 17 queued up for my next string job. Have Biphase 17 installed now. I like the X1B, but it is starting to loosen up already after about 6 hrs.
Ahhhh, the dreaded BiPhase death. Great name for the string since it has two phases. Phase I = Pure awesomeness while Phase II = Pure garbage.


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What string set up? I'm still experimenting on the budget end. Have a few rackets with OGSM 17 and a few with Isospeed Baseline Control 16. Also finishing off my Forten sweet 16 maybe getting a reel of Forten Sweet 17 cause I love its playability.

Still pondering if 3.5 Saephanh (me) should spring for gut... But i have time as my rackets will be taking a while to get here.
If you are not a string breaker, you should definitely consider full gut. Just take care of it and that will last you a long time.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:23 AM   #2809
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Noticed that PPA comes in black, too. Just sayin'.

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Old 02-29-2012, 08:32 AM   #2810
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Ahhhh, the dreaded BiPhase death. Great name for the string since it has two phases. Phase I = Pure awesomeness while Phase II = Pure garbage.
Yeah I guess I didn't want to believe the other reports out there. As you guys said - first time out - Fantastic, 2nd time out - really good, 3rd time out, OK. 4th time out I was starting to spray balls out that were not going out the first 3 sessions. I guess $16 / set is a little too steep to stick with it. Hoping PPA will work out, I like the price a lot better also. Currently have a set of Wilson NXT control 16 on my backup frame and that had an initial loss, but seems to be hanging in there pretty well. I guess it didn't help that the X1 is 17G, but I am kind of liking that gauge in my 18x20 Prestige MP.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:48 AM   #2811
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Yeah I guess I didn't want to believe the other reports out there. As you guys said - first time out - Fantastic, 2nd time out - really good, 3rd time out, OK. 4th time out I was starting to spray balls out that were not going out the first 3 sessions. I guess $16 / set is a little too steep to stick with it. Hoping PPA will work out, I like the price a lot better also. Currently have a set of Wilson NXT control 16 on my backup frame and that had an initial loss, but seems to be hanging in there pretty well. I guess it didn't help that the X1 is 17G, but I am kind of liking that gauge in my 18x20 Prestige MP.

It's kind of hard to believe a string behaves like this because very few multifilaments, if any, also deteriorate in this manner.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:41 PM   #2812
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Hey Mikeler or anyone else that has tried PPA...

does PPA have the right properties to be a good cross for a poly main? Is it hard and slick enough not to notch and prevent the poly mains from sliding?
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:49 AM   #2813
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Hey Mikeler or anyone else that has tried PPA...

does PPA have the right properties to be a good cross for a poly main? Is it hard and slick enough not to notch and prevent the poly mains from sliding?

String movement is minimal, so it may very well lock the poly into place. I would not worry about the whole poly sliding thing. If you have the right technique, you could put shoe strings in and get topspin.
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:53 AM   #2814
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Got almost 9 sets of singles and 1 set of doubles on PPA and it refuses to break. Very good durability on this stuff. It was very windy last night, so I was struggling a little bit. Think the only downside I can see with this string up to this point is touch shots. Everything else I'm very pleased with. Full review coming if I can break this tomorrow.
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Old 03-02-2012, 06:29 AM   #2815
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Wow this is awesome to read. I hit with Full RIP 16 last night and it felt amazing, and is easily my #1 string right now due to the feel, comfort and control. Tension maintenance is pretty good, I don't prestretch or anything and it drops 5 pounds after initial hitting, which I consider pretty standard.

My main concern is how long it will last before I break it. If it only lasts 4 hours or so like the last set, I will have to try something else. It sounds like the PPA could be ideal.
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Wow this is awesome to read. I hit with Full RIP 16 last night and it felt amazing, and is easily my #1 string right now due to the feel, comfort and control. Tension maintenance is pretty good, I don't prestretch or anything and it drops 5 pounds after initial hitting, which I consider pretty standard.

My main concern is how long it will last before I break it. If it only lasts 4 hours or so like the last set, I will have to try something else. It sounds like the PPA could be ideal.
Wait a second. You're using the PD+ now? I thought the 6.1 95 was the perfect racket for you. Then again, you don't seem to stick with rackets too long .

Anyway, I'm hoping to try out some PPA once I get fully used to my rebels.
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Wow this is awesome to read. I hit with Full RIP 16 last night and it felt amazing, and is easily my #1 string right now due to the feel, comfort and control. Tension maintenance is pretty good, I don't prestretch or anything and it drops 5 pounds after initial hitting, which I consider pretty standard.

My main concern is how long it will last before I break it. If it only lasts 4 hours or so like the last set, I will have to try something else. It sounds like the PPA could be ideal.
For reference, I broke NXT after 7 hours. An average multi will be between 8-10 hours for me. RIP Control 16 in a full bed will last me somewhere between 12 to 19 hours. Tension isn't going to drop much more after the initial drop. If RIP Control 16 doesn't last long enough for you, I don't know what to tell you except your only other option is tournament nylon.
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mikeler off topic but am trying WC Black 5 edge 17g for the first time . Have played with solinco bite 17g at 48 and wc silverstring at 53. Am a topspinning baseliner who wants some power and more spin. Racquet donnay 94 platinum. What tension would you suggest I string it at with these strings? thanks
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mikeler off topic but am trying WC Black 5 edge 17g for the first time . Have played with solinco bite 17g at 48 and wc silverstring at 53. Am a topspinning baseliner who wants some power and more spin. Racquet donnay 94 platinum. What tension would you suggest I string it at with these strings? thanks

If you liked Silverstring at 53, then I'd start with that tension since B5E is supposed to be the successor to Silverstring.
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For reference, I broke NXT after 7 hours. An average multi will be between 8-10 hours for me. RIP Control 16 in a full bed will last me somewhere between 12 to 19 hours. Tension isn't going to drop much more after the initial drop. If RIP Control 16 doesn't last long enough for you, I don't know what to tell you except your only other option is tournament nylon.

Lately, many of the multis have been lasting 4 sets or so for me, so PPA is a welcome treat.
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