Andy murray thinks that Federer could still be number 1 if......

[GasquetGOAT]

Originally Posted by Tony48

So a player would have more success if most of the courts suited their game? Interesting theory.

No the theory is, if the courts didn't slow down, a clay court specialist would have just being a clay court specialist. Nothing less nothing more.

[timnz]

Originally Posted by Tony48

So a player would have more success if most of the courts suited their game? Interesting theory.

Yes, that is what nadal and djokovic are currently experiencing. They are benefiting from this ridiculous policy of excessive slowness. And the lack of balance between surface speeds during the season.

[TMF]

Murray is absolutely correct. If the condition was faster and lower bounce Fed would have achieved even more. Fed is a better shot makers and would dictate the rally from the baseline. He gets more free point on his serve, the serve & fh comes in handy. His bh becomes a weapon, better striking zone and the slice is more effective.

OTOH, faster and lower bounce Nadal wouldn't have achieved as much. No way he has 10 slams by now.

[monfed]

Originally Posted by TMF

Murray is absolutely correct. If the condition was faster and lower bounce Fed would have achieved even more. Fed is a better shot makers and would dictate the rally from the baseline. He gets more free point on his serve, the serve & fh comes in handy. His bh becomes a weapon, better striking zone and the slice is more effective.

OTOH, faster and lower bounce Nadal wouldn't have achieved as much. No way he has 10 slams by now.

Yea, put Ralph in the 90s and he'd be another Kuerten/Muster or at best Courier.

[cknobman]

I think Federer could be No 1 again if he won more (important) tournaments.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by monfed

Yea, put Ralph in the 90s and he'd be another Kuerten/Muster or at best Courier.

I am sure Federer would love that Nadal belongs to the 90´s...

[timnz]

Originally Posted by cknobman

I think Federer could be No 1 again if he won more (important) tournaments.

Yeah - but the problem is that the important tournaments have slowed their surfaces down so much to be completely in the slow court player sweet spot.

[timnz]

Originally Posted by monfed

Yea, put Ralph in the 90s and he'd be another Kuerten/Muster or at best Courier.

Nadal would have won as many French Opens but no Wimbledons and no US Opens and maybe 1 Australian Open. He wouldn't have won any where as many hard court Masters 1000's either. He is a great player but he has benefited hugely by the slow down court policy of the last decade.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by MDCCLXXVI

I think inside the service boxes should be slower court, and deep in the court and near the corners should be faster, rewarding more aggressive play.

Also, the bounce on the backhand side (Ad court) should be lower than forehand side.

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by Sentinel

Also, the bounce on the backhand side (Ad court) should be lower than forehand side.

I would bouch for that....it would be hilarious when Fedal plays.

[cknobman]

Originally Posted by timnz

Yeah - but the problem is that the important tournaments have slowed their surfaces down so much to be completely in the slow court player sweet spot.

Not going to disagree with you but I also feel that Federer is his own worst enemy in some of these matches.

Regardless of court speed Rogers game is good enough to beat anybody. Rogers biggest problem is mental. He does not convert break points well enough, seems to loose focus, and sometimes appears to lack that "hunger" for winning a match.

This is all natural of course as he is older now and has accomplished so much I am sure its hard to stay motivated all the time. Problem is it only takes a few minutes to give one of these younger hungrier players enough hope to come back and steal a match (we all saw it happen last year at Wimbledon against Tsonga).

[monfed]

Originally Posted by timnz

Nadal would have won as many French Opens but no Wimbledons and no US Opens and maybe 1 Australian Open. He wouldn't have won any where as many hard court Masters 1000's either. He is a great player but he has benefited hugely by the slow down court policy of the last decade.

Nailed it.

[Nathaniel_Near]

Come on Roger, it's time to do the RG Wimbly double!!!!

[Sentinel]

^ I'd like a USO with that

[Nathaniel_Near]

Heh. Odie - too good.

[devila]

murray just is hurting because djoker isn't desperate to prove he could beat him and federina anywhere. unlike the clowns like roddick, nalby and davydenko, who enjoyed slower hardcourts but had air where their brains were supposed to be.

[Evan77]

meh, Fed is not getting to #1 any time soon. Djokovic is playing well on any type of surface. Murray is just bs here.

Originally Posted by timnz

There were more fast court tournaments....he comments on how slow the couts have got these days..

"If there was more tournaments on these courts, I think he could definitely be No. 1 in the world for the next few years," Murray told reporters. "It really suits his game well. Just so many of the courts are so slow now. It’s nice for us to get a change-up like here. Some of the tournaments are so slow it's tough against so many guys that are moving well and serving big. It’s become tougher and tougher to stay at the top of the game longer."

http://www.tennisworldusa.org/ATP---...icolo3654.html

Stating the obvious.

[laughingbuddha]

Tournaments originally slowed down courts for more revenue because fans wanted longer rallies. In a few years, tournaments will slowly start to speed up the courts because fans want varied styles. It is a cycle.

[FedererUberAlles]

Just caught the highlights for the final. Fastest court I've seen in years. The ball just FLIES.

Some of the points look like they're straight out of a video game