Does anyone truly hate federer's GAME?

[rommil]

Originally Posted by BULLZ1LLA2.0

You are one strike away from being on my ignore list.
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Please, I beg of you. Do not send me to a place full of sensible people. I could never bear not being able to interact with you. Please Bulish!tta, reconsider.

[[d]ragon]

Federer is actually one of the hardest working players out there. It shows in 5 set matches when he's not huffing and puffing. Not chasing down every ball is part of this style, which only adds to his physical fitness. I remember some commentators saying that he invited a couple of up and coming junior players to train with him in Dubai (Ricardas Berankis was one). They said that Federer's fitness was so good that his training partners had to rotate with each other to rest. When he's warming up on courts where everyone can see him, he is very carefree and almost lazy. But when he's practicing away from the crowds, you can really see he's trying.
And, Nadal is actually a great volleyer. His form isn't the most natural looking and he doesn't come up to net much because that isn't his style. But if you've every seen him play doubles, he's pretty solid

[monfed]

Originally Posted by [d]ragon

Federer is actually one of the hardest working players out there. It shows in 5 set matches when he's not huffing and puffing. Not chasing down every ball is part of this style, which only adds to his physical fitness. I remember some commentators saying that he invited a couple of up and coming junior players to train with him in Dubai (Ricardas Berankis was one). They said that Federer's fitness was so good that his training partners had to rotate with each other to rest. When he's warming up on courts where everyone can see him, he is very carefree and almost lazy. But when he's practicing away from the crowds, you can really see he's trying.
And, Nadal is actually a great volleyer. His form isn't the most natural looking and he doesn't come up to net much because that isn't his style. But if you've every seen him play doubles, he's pretty solid

Insightful indeed.

[ThoughtCrime]

How can any one say that Federer or any of the top guys doesn't work hard? If you are at the top of the world in any sport, I'm pretty sure you have to bust your *** day in and day out just to keep ahead of the crowd.

[Paul Murphy]

The most beautiful game I've ever seen - he can do it all - and do it with style and panache.
Nothing to hate here .... move on.

[billnepill]

Originally Posted by BULLZ1LLA2.0

A lazy player with natural ability. What's not to hate? I'm into the more hard working players. 'Titles' aren't something to like, regarding a players GAME.

Nobody agrees with you. You must feel very small and insignificant right now lol

[Rock Strongo]

I don't like him. I can't say I hate him, but I REALLY don't like him. Why you may ask? He was never appealing to me as a kid. Instead I liked the Roddick-type who hit every ball as hard as humanly possible or someone who served and volleyed on every point.

I don't like his demeanor either. I never got the impression that he interacted with the crowd, instead he was just like "..." after every point. (that said, I hate Hewitt with his c'mons)

I respect the guy though. He's brought great things to the game of tennis, influenced a lot of kids to pick up a racquet, he does great humanitarian work, and is certainly graphite GOAT.

I'm just nagging on I presume...

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by Rock Strongo

I don't like him. I can't say I hate him, but I REALLY don't like him. Why you may ask? He was never appealing to me as a kid. Instead I liked the Roddick-type who hit every ball as hard as humanly possible or someone who served and volleyed on every point.

I don't like his demeanor either. I never got the impression that he interacted with the crowd, instead he was just like "..." after every point. (that said, I hate Hewitt with his c'mons)

I respect the guy though. He's brought great things to the game of tennis, influenced a lot of kids to pick up a racquet, he does great humanitarian work, and is certainly graphite GOAT.

I'm just nagging on I presume...

It's okay, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But do you still now dislike his game? Letting go of his antics for a moment. Purely his playing style, is it still not appealing to you, because he does not S&V or hit the crap out of the ball?

[Rock Strongo]

Originally Posted by joeri888

It's okay, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But do you still now dislike his game? Letting go of his antics for a moment. Purely his playing style, is it still not appealing to you, because he does not S&V or hit the crap out of the ball?

I think it's some Pavlovian thing because as a kid, whenever Fed played I thought "oh not again", and now it perhaps lies in my subconsciousness that whenever Fed plays, I either switch streams or stop watching. I don't know really...

[Wilander Fan]

Originally Posted by BULLZ1LLA2.0

You are one strike away from being on my ignore list.

And Nadal doesn't like coming to the net, regardless of his skill. Nadal said in an interview before this year's AO that he doesn't like serving at 130mph because he prefers more time to hit his first groundstroke. If he serves at 130mph the ball comes back faster, which he doesn't like. Same would apply to his volleys. He has great volley skills (just as he has the ability to serve big) but he doesn't feel as comfortable at the net as he does at the baseline so he decides not to come to the net (just as he decides not to serve fast).

Sitting 3 feet from the net and hitting a volley is literally the easiest thing in tennis and anyone can get decent at it very quickly if they have good reflexes. The difference between a skilled net player and an opportunistic net rusher is the half volley. IMO, the half volley is now the most difficult shot in tennis and its been pretty much abandoned as no man's land. You need to have a good and accurate serve, anticipation and great footwork. You also need to actually send a volley into corners with pace by redirecting low topspin passing shots from your ankles at the service line. Nadal rarely S&V even as a surprise tactic and his net play is basically drop volleys. OTOH, Fed does still S&V consistently when he is on a fast hard surface and he is quite good at it.

[syc23]

I don't hate Federer's game but dislike him more as a person as he could be quite arrogant towards his peers and preventing Murray from being a 2 time slam winner already.

However, he plays the most graceful and effortless tennis I've ever seen. I'm sure a lot of people would love to play with the artistry of Federer but it's easier to be a grinder like Nadal on the court working hard for every point. Well, I do anyway

[Evan77]

Gosh, I absolutely love his game. I can watch his matches 24/7....but I hate his personality, his huge ego. I simply can't stand it. all the things he said about young Nole and Rafa... all excuses he gives after he loses a match.

based on his game I'd be probably the biggest fan but again his personality is a huge turn off. Fed should simply shut up and I will fall in love with him, lol.

[abmk]

Originally Posted by BULLZ1LLA2.0

Most error-prone world number one I've ever seen. What's not to hate?

Hmm, not surprising as you've only been seeing tennis from 2008 onwards !

[devila]

the more i see federer, the more glad i am to watch the news of his and roddick's losses and retirements.
fed can win 40 slams but it would make me enjoy djoker's dominant tennis & impersonation of federer and roddick's arrogant behavior.

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by BobFL

If you don't like Fed's game, you don't like tennis in its purest form. Period.

I fixed it for you a bit. but you had it right essentially.

But ...playing devil's advocate...I can see where non Fed fans are coming from.

I couldnt *stand* Graf back in the day. She had zero personality, and I didnt like her because she beat my hero Navratilova repeatedly. I understood that Martina was in the twilight of her career but it still didnt make it any easier to accept.

And then I couldnt stand Graf because she mowed down everyone and everything. I still maintain that the early 90's was a fairly weak era for women's tennis..but the few players that were there that could go toe to toe with her she just intimidated to rubble.

It was only as Graf got older and started to wane herself that I appreciated her game. Her athleticism, her forehand and that gorgeous backhand slice, her all court game.

I was honestly rooting for her in the Wimby final against Davenport.

Another player that it took me a long while to appreciate was Hingis. Icouldnt stand her arrogance and that damn creepy chucky smile of hers.

But as 'big babe' tennis began to ascend, I appreciated her immense variety, her strategy, ..she was a technician on the court. And I felt bad that she basically got blasted out of the game once those big hitters figured out how to play and specifically how to play her.

I was happy when she made that mini comeback and almost got back to the top ten.

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by Wilander Fan

Sitting 3 feet from the net and hitting a volley is literally the easiest thing in tennis and anyone can get decent at it very quickly if they have good reflexes. The difference between a skilled net player and an opportunistic net rusher is the half volley. IMO, the half volley is now the most difficult shot in tennis and its been pretty much abandoned as no man's land. You need to have a good and accurate serve, anticipation and great footwork. You also need to actually send a volley into corners with pace by redirecting low topspin passing shots from your ankles at the service line. Nadal rarely S&V even as a surprise tactic and his net play is basically drop volleys. OTOH, Fed does still S&V consistently when he is on a fast hard surface and he is quite good at it.

so tired of fools trying to say Rafa is a great volleyer.

he is competent and a great opportunistic volleyer. Edbergesque, he aint.

[TTMR]

I like Federer's game generally. I do find the Djokovic and Murray game more aesthetically pleasing (less jerky/"explosive", more fluid and/or flexible), but I realize this is all subjective.

His demeanor leaves something to be desired. When he is passionate he is fun to root for (although I only do against players I truly despise such as Berdych, Fish and a few others).

I think he is a good guy off the court. He could have had any super or glamour model but chose to be with the merely above average looking Mirka for many years. I didn't like how quickly he seemed to embrace the "greatest of all time" media chatter going as far back as 2005, and he seems to be a sour loser much of the time. But generally, he is a commendable sportsmen and I have no qualms with him.

I do have qualms with some of his "Federer as a religious experience" article-inspired fans, who are incapable of accepting the fact that Federer can lose a match to a player with an "inferior" playing style, and will generate all kinds of reasons to discredit the victor. You may say "oh every player/ team in the world has those kinds of fans", and while that may be true, they seem to be overrepresented among Federer and tennis fans as a whole based on my experience.

[vernonbc]

Originally Posted by [d]ragon

Federer is actually one of the hardest working players out there. It shows in 5 set matches when he's not huffing and puffing.

Federer actually has a lousy 5 set record. He's 114th on the career list at 18-16. http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliabil...reer-List.aspx Rafa has the best of active players at 15-4 and Novak is second at 15-5. Kohlschreiber, surprisingly, is 3rd.

Originally Posted by TTMR

I do have qualms with some of his "Federer as a religious experience" article-inspired fans, who are incapable of accepting the fact that Federer can lose a match to a player with an "inferior" playing style, and will generate all kinds of reasons to discredit the victor. You may say "oh every player/ team in the world has those kinds of fans", and while that may be true, they seem to be overrepresented among Federer and tennis fans as a whole based on my experience.

+1
I find many of his fans much more annoying than Federer himself. To me, Fed's game is rather boring but I acknowledge that he's very good and there's no denying he's been extremely successful. As you say though, seldom will the Fed fandom give his opponents credit and it's not only because I'm a Nadal fan and get annoyed that he doesn't get recognition for his wonderful game. It's always the 'match-up'. Well if Fed has such trouble with Rafa's left handed game, why do other left handers never give Fed trouble? Lopez and Verdasco are two who have never gotten even one win against Fed, Melzer's won one. And does almost every other player on the tour have a bad match-up against Nadal? I mean, he beats them all regularly. It's fine to love Federer's game but it would be nice if some of his fans were a little more fair and realistic.

[jerriy]

A rabid Nadal or other palyer stan claiming to not like Fed's game is not credible at all.

There ought also be the same feeling towards Roger's game originating from a non-partisan/neutral person as well in order for it to be believable).

So based on that we can say the answer so far is that no one hates Fed's game

[zagor]

Beauty is in the eye of Beholder, it's a matter of taste.

Originally Posted by BrooklynNY

hahahahah this might be the best topic ever.

No, I don't think you can truly hate his game. You can hate Federer, and everything else around him, (horrible competition, easy draws, arrogant statements,etc) but you got to say he does atleast play the game correctly/the way it's supposed to be played which is aggressive minded to some degree.

I wish he would play a more all court game and come in more, but I understand why he doesn't.

But yeah, I bet someone will come along and say they do.

Tell me again how you're supposed to be a Fed fan, LOL! Amazingly, Fed with all his oh so easy draws never faced a 237 ranked journeyman in Wimbledon SF.

BTW. There's no "correct" way to play the game, especially when we're talking about pros whose various different games have proven to be effective on the highest level, you don't any extra points for style and/or beauty.