Llodra fined. - Page 4

ark_28 · 03-12-2012, 07:37 AM

It may or may not be racist but it's stupid and he should not just have been fined he should be banned!

Whether the girl is Chinese or not is not the issue, he has stereotyped her and made a judgement on her because of her accent she may well be Chinese but she could also be Korean or Japanese etc and proud of her root Llodra has no right bringing where she is from!

Would he like it is a fan shouted to him "f**king Belgians" or f**king Swiss" ??

Bartelby · 03-12-2012, 07:39 AM

nonsense - Youre just making stuff up.

You have to look at what he actually said in French.

And judge him on that alone.

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Originally Posted by ark_28

It may or may not be racist but it's stupid and he should not just have been fined he should be banned!

Whether the girl is Chinese or not is not the issue, he has stereotyped her and made a judgement on her because of her accent she may well be Chinese but she could also be Korean or Japanese etc and proud of her root Llodra has no right bringing where she is from!

Would he like it is a fan shouted to him "f**king Belgians" or f**king Swiss" ??

tennis_pro · 03-12-2012, 07:40 AM

How dare you fine Llodra, one of the last remaining s-v players out there!

darrinbaker00 · 03-12-2012, 07:41 AM

None of us can say for sure if what Mr. Llodra said was racist, because none of us were there. Simply reading a transcript will not give us the whole story, because none of us heard the the tone of his voice or saw the expression on his face when he said it. Was it bad? Of course. Should Mr. Llodra have been fined for it? Of course. Was it racist? I don't know, and neither do any of you.

phnx90 · 03-12-2012, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ark_28

It may or may not be racist but it's stupid and he should not just have been fined he should be banned!

Agree

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Originally Posted by ark_28

Whether the girl is Chinese or not is not the issue, he has stereotyped her and made a judgement on her because of her accent she may well be Chinese but she could also be Korean or Japanese etc and proud of her root Llodra has no right bringing where she is from!

He hasn't made a stereotype. He just made an assumption, and a pretty logical one at that too. There are more Chinese people in the world than there are Koreans, Japanese, Mongolians, etc. 99% of the time he'd have been right in thinking she was Chinese.

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Originally Posted by ark_28

Would he like it is a fan shouted to him "f**king Belgians" or f**king Swiss" ??

This example doesn't work. If he were Belgian and a fan called him a "f_cking Frenchman", then that would be a more accurate example. But even then, it isn't racist, just ignorant.

monfed · 03-12-2012, 07:48 AM

He should've said "very badh, very badh" instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udXO...03E1E67D70CC82

Lapse in judgement by Meeka, for sure no?

Bartelby · 03-12-2012, 07:48 AM

Here's one report of the incident that even thinks the woman was Chinese, censors the words used so you can't make any sense of what he said, and then goes on to say he was insulting everyone:

ML smacked ball out of court, threw racquet, called female Gulbis supporter in crowd a '(bleep)ing Chinese.' I confirmed later with brother of woman."

Officials said Llodra was also verbally abusive towards the ballkids and their coordinator during the match. Besides the fine, Llodra had to apologize for his actions.

DRII · 03-12-2012, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by phnx90

Someone tell me how this is racist?

Chinese is not a race but nationality.

Still, what is it about "Indian" Wells that brings out such discriminatory behavior and slurs?

monfed · 03-12-2012, 07:52 AM

So, Llodra has paid the fine and apologized. What's the point of slandering him further?

FlashFlare11 · 03-12-2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DRII

Chinese is not a race but nationality.

Still, what is it about "Indian" Wells that brings out such discriminatory behavior and slurs?

Probably because it's in America. So A.) Players get exposed to many different races and cultures they don't normally see and B.) Our media makes a big deal about even the tiniest instance of racism or potential racism.

I don't know where you live, but if you remember David Ferrer apparently hitting a ball towards a baby in Miami last year, that was huge news here.

magnut · 03-12-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DRII

Chinese is not a race but nationality.

Still, what is it about "Indian" Wells that brings out such discriminatory behavior and slurs?

Balls fly and you make more errors.

Plus its in America and we took care of those indians along time ago. Indians now have become racist over it. It should be called American Wells. Where is the Black and Mexican Wells tournaments. Clearly the tour is selling out to either Racist Indians or Middle East money tycoons.

AtomicForehand · 03-12-2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by monfed

So, Llodra has paid the fine and apologized. What's the point of slandering him further?

"Slander" is when you spread maliciously false information about a person.

This information doesn't appear to be false. Llodra paid the fine and apologized instead of denying or fighting the charge.

In other news, I seriously can't believe most of the idiot comments in this thread. A pathetic bunch of posters for sure.

phnx90 · 03-12-2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FlashFlare11

Probably because it's in America. So A.) Players get exposed to many different races and cultures they don't normally see and B.) Our media makes a big deal about even the tiniest instance of racism or potential racism.

To the point where they're overcompensating. Why on earth would you have a Black History Month and an International Women's Day if you actually thought blacks and women are the same as anybody else?

magnut · 03-12-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by monfed

So, Llodra has paid the fine and apologized. What's the point of slandering him further?

He is a potentially dangerous person who may be possible of hate crimes. Therfore he should be sensored.

He has already proven that when he is not happy he can be rude and its just not normal to act like that.

cknobman · 03-12-2012, 08:00 AM

The only time you can do stuff like this and it not be racist is directing your comments to a "Caucasian" (preferably an american male)

Bartelby · 03-12-2012, 08:00 AM

He apologized, but I'm not sure he's happy about the fine or the suggestion he was racially motivated.

The fact is that there are hardly any clear facts in the case to make judgements beyond that he was seriously rude in his behaviour and deserved some sort of punishment.

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Originally Posted by AtomicForehand

"Slander" is when you spread maliciously false information about a person.

This information doesn't appear to be false. Llodra paid the fine and apologized instead of denying or fighting the charge.

In other news, I seriously can't believe most of the idiot comments in this thread. A pathetic bunch of posters for sure.

magnut · 03-12-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by phnx90

To the point where they're overcompensating. Why on earth would you have a Black History Month and an International Women's Day if you actually thought blacks and women are the same as anybody else?

Why would you have affirmative action?

FlashFlare11 · 03-12-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by magnut

He is a potentially dangerous person who may be possible of hate crimes. Therfore he should be sensored.

He has already proven that when he is not happy he can be rude and its just not normal to act like that.

I agree. I'm not even a white American.

By the way, do you live in America? It's pretty ridiculous how much we have to watch what we say in fear of accidentally offending someone.

phnx90 · 03-12-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by magnut

He is a potentially dangerous person who may be possible of hate crimes. Therfore he should be sensored.

He has already proven that when he is not happy he can be rude and its just not normal to act like that.

Of course!

We at TTW are all angels. We don't have flamers and trolls, and respect all players equally and are reasonable and objective when our favourite players lose.

monfed · 03-12-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AtomicForehand

"Slander" is when you spread maliciously false information about a person.

This information doesn't appear to be false. Llodra paid the fine and apologized instead of denying or fighting the charge.

In other news, I seriously can't believe most of the idiot comments in this thread. A pathetic bunch of posters for sure.

Thanks for the correction, but I see you get my point.

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