What Federer did right - Page 5

Nathaniel_Near · 03-19-2012, 07:35 PM

Roger won and Rafa lost, they both came to play and that's that. Rafa's form was quite good but he was mentally weak in dealing with the wind and admitted in the press conference that he only figured out the correct way to play the situation near the end of the match. Federer was a tactical tour de force and Rafa a tactical noob, as far as this match goes.

MichaelNadal · 03-19-2012, 07:41 PM

^^And I completely agree with everything you just said, which is all im trying to say, the same thing you are.

Nathaniel_Near · 03-19-2012, 07:42 PM

Interestingly, Federer only won 64% of his first serve points and many of those would have been non returned serves or aces. Rafa has a real hold on Fed's first service. In fact, the serve seemed to mean practically bugger all in this latest match: Fed won 64% and 65% and Rafa 58% and 44% on first and second serves respectively. Federer served at 64% and Rafa at 71%.

Nathaniel_Near · 03-19-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelNadal

^^And I completely agree with everything you just said, which is all im trying to say, the same thing you are.

The fact is, Roger and Rafa both have this capacity to make the other player look like absolute crap, with Rafa being able to do it more frequently than Roger. The match-up is extremely volatile. In almost every case, the losing player is playing better than it may appear - for example, when Federer is blitzing and attacking it doesn't matter how well Nadal is playing, he's going to be way way behind in winners, and when Nadal is at full flight he will draw an amazing amount of forced errors out of players through tenacity, stamina and will, which go down as UE on the stats and paints a negative picture. Ultimately the thing that should be talked about here is how well Federer played, as it's far more significant than how standard Nadal's overall level was (good form, silly tactics).

Roger in this match was blitzing and high risk but still hit more winners than errors and in windy conditions; very impressive. I'm half expecting a rematch between these two in the finals of Miami.

World Beater · 03-20-2012, 05:41 AM

nice win for roger. but he is far away from beating nadal in a 5 set match.

03-20-2012, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelNadal

Order will be restored next time they play, calm down guys. If I didn't see the match, id think Rafa played well with the way u guys are acting. The guy had 1 forehand winner in an hour of tennis and was pushing.

If they meet in the Miami final, Federer will win....

Crisstti · 03-20-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OddJack

He had one FH winner because he was busy defending his bh.

And pushing is what he does, how do you think he has lost all those finals to Djoker, by attacking??

No, it's not. Actually, in a match like that one can see the difference of when he pushes and when he doesn't.

GhostDog · 03-20-2012, 04:02 PM

Fed pretty much played the way many of us have been begging him to play. Let's see if this bolds well for the rest of the majors. I'll give him one final shot at winning Wimby or the US Open if he plays this way.

keithfival · 03-20-2012, 04:08 PM

When asked in the presser why he stuck to the tactics in this match but went away from them in Australia, Fed himself said "Rafa has also a big say on how the points are being played", so obviously he agrees with what's being said here that it's not simply a matter of using this gameplan, it's that this time he was able to do it but other times Rafa doesn't let him do it.

So, I agree with Fed.

03-19-2012, 07:35 PM	#81
Nathaniel_Near Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,570	Roger won and Rafa lost, they both came to play and that's that. Rafa's form was quite good but he was mentally weak in dealing with the wind and admitted in the press conference that he only figured out the correct way to play the situation near the end of the match. Federer was a tactical tour de force and Rafa a tactical noob, as far as this match goes. __________________ ''Warrior is on fire!!'' Tomáš 'the epic prince of Godness, and long time fan of bum picking observance' Berdych

03-19-2012, 07:41 PM	#82
MichaelNadal G.O.A.T. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 14,831	^^And I completely agree with everything you just said, which is all im trying to say, the same thing you are. __________________ "That extra effort is always worth it, win or lose. It is a matter of personal satisfaction when you return to the locker room. It's priceless." -Rafa

03-19-2012, 07:42 PM	#83
Nathaniel_Near Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,570	Interestingly, Federer only won 64% of his first serve points and many of those would have been non returned serves or aces. Rafa has a real hold on Fed's first service. In fact, the serve seemed to mean practically bugger all in this latest match: Fed won 64% and 65% and Rafa 58% and 44% on first and second serves respectively. Federer served at 64% and Rafa at 71%. __________________ ''Warrior is on fire!!'' Tomáš 'the epic prince of Godness, and long time fan of bum picking observance' Berdych

03-20-2012, 04:08 PM	#89
keithfival Semi-Pro Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 651	Fed already answered this question When asked in the presser why he stuck to the tactics in this match but went away from them in Australia, Fed himself said "Rafa has also a big say on how the points are being played", so obviously he agrees with what's being said here that it's not simply a matter of using this gameplan, it's that this time he was able to do it but other times Rafa doesn't let him do it. So, I agree with Fed.

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