Coaching Changes

[tennis7777777]

Boland or Steinberg to Florida are perfect fits, here come the national titles...I don't think Pedroso will get UVa, only been there 2 years, and he walked into the #1 team in the nation, that's going to head coach as well

[treeman10]

Why are you thinking Boland would leave UVA? What would going to FLA get him? More $? Seems like he is running a great program with great players....is there other stuff going on there?

[tennis7777777]

seems like a no brainer to me, perhaps more money but more importantly way easier to win, in state florida, weather, conference, resources, facility....with what he's done at uva it crazy to think what he could do at florida

[treeman10]

^^^thanks, not that familiar with the things you mentioned at each school, sounds like it could be growth for him then, interesting....

[tennis7777777]

I think of it this way, if someone said to you here's a program, start from zero, but you have to win a national title in 5 years, which school would you pick....automatically I go Stanford, UCLA, USC, Georgia, Florida, perhaps Texas.....schools like Virginia, Ohio State, Baylor, Oklahoma, Pepperdine don't fall in that mix, that's why I think those guys with what they have are some of the best coaches

[10isplayer]

Originally Posted by tennis7777777

I think of it this way, if someone said to you here's a program, start from zero, but you have to win a national title in 5 years, which school would you pick....automatically I go Stanford, UCLA, USC, Georgia, Florida, perhaps Texas.....schools like Virginia, Ohio State, Baylor, Oklahoma, Pepperdine don't fall in that mix, that's why I think those guys with what they have are some of the best coaches

Florida has never even made the finals of NCAA's so that isn't a school i would think of. I think there is no way Boland leaves UVa.

[tennis7777777]

Well Florida seems to be doing ok on the woman's side, and girls are more into academics, sleeping giant on the men's side

[floridatennisdude]

Originally Posted by tennis7777777

I think of it this way, if someone said to you here's a program, start from zero, but you have to win a national title in 5 years, which school would you pick....automatically I go Stanford, UCLA, USC, Georgia, Florida, perhaps Texas.....schools like Virginia, Ohio State, Baylor, Oklahoma, Pepperdine don't fall in that mix, that's why I think those guys with what they have are some of the best coaches

Hahaha...in that 5 year scenario, I'd take Virginia in a heartbeat....since I wouldn't have to start from zero! Oh yea, that's where Boland is already. Duh!

[matchplay]

Originally Posted by Vicious Vik

no offense meant but... what the hell is "Drew"?

you have offended so many in this board, nobody is offended by you anymore - no matter how hard you try.

drew is an outstanding school by the way...

[Vicious Vik]

Originally Posted by matchplay

you have offended so many in this board, nobody is offended by you anymore - no matter how hard you try.

drew is an outstanding school by the way...

How have I offended people on this forum?


Mainly I am just tired of these D3 loons (players and coaches) coming on here and acting like they know all there is to know about college tennis and that's just the way it is.

[Vicious Vik]

If it was up to me Center would be gone from Texas, but that won't happen

[Art Rust Jr]

Originally Posted by tennis7777777

I think of it this way, if someone said to you here's a program, start from zero, but you have to win a national title in 5 years, which school would you pick....automatically I go Stanford, UCLA, USC, Georgia, Florida, perhaps Texas.....schools like Virginia, Ohio State, Baylor, Oklahoma, Pepperdine don't fall in that mix, that's why I think those guys with what they have are some of the best coaches

The first four schools you mentioned are probably by far the most tradition rich and successful programs in men's college tennis history. To throw Florida in with them is a stretch.

Not sure if the rumors about Boland being a serious candidate are true. The only way I could see him leaving is if they bowl him over with money (as others have mentioned), and I suppose that is a possibility. Otherwise, I think he's got a pretty good thing going at UVA, and seems very happy there. I suppose it would have been much more interesting if he had gotten that national title this year. Then, a big pay hike may have been more tempting.

Certainly, a flirtation with Florida could also be used as a negotiating tool to get UVA to up its ante to keep him.

[Clemson_tennis]

Yes Florida produces more talent than Virginia but the state of Virginia also has some very good players. And in college tennis it's about quality not quantity.

[The Wreck]

Originally Posted by Clemson_tennis

Yes Florida produces more talent than Virginia but the state of Virginia also has some very good players. And in college tennis it's about quality not quantity.

And it's probably fair to say that most very good players in Virginia are going to end up at Virginia, and most all of the talent in Florida is going elsewhere all over the country.

[tennis7777777]

I agree, in recruiting it is quality over quantity, so keep in mind florida kids with the right sat get free tuition at florida, that goes a long way with 4.5 scholarships. Now let's do some research, let's take a look at the top 3 kids to come out of florida and virginia over the last 3 years:

Just went from tennisrecruiting, give a decent outlook:

2007

Florida

Arsenov 1 (turned pro)
Bowles 3
Dadamo 4
Carleton 7

Virginia

Wirth 113
Edwards 163
Parrish 178

(17 florida kids before you hit the first virginia kid, funny)

2008

Florida

Spencer 4
Trombetta 5 (turned pro)
Boyajin 8
Chin 13

Virginia

Courtney 11
Pine 95
Pine 96

2009

Florida

Van Overbeek 6
Bangoura 7
Carleton 9

Virginia

Balaji 31
Parker 49
Mcmillen 228

2010

Florida

Alford 7
King 17
Butz 21

Virginia

Shane 22
Davis 84
Zhang 98

2011

Florida

Novikov 2
Newman 3
Efferding 9

Virginia

Luu 53
Nguyen 59
Koontz 63
FYI for some reason Frank wasn't on there

Now I'll admit I'm a Florida fan but come on, those numbers don't lie. Every year Florida produces atleast 1 if not more top 10 kids, Virginia almost never does with Frank being the exception. I'm guessing if you do the same for Ohio and Tucker it's similar outside of Chase. Then look at Pepperdine and put in perspective they have no in state and cost 50k and to me it's still a no brainer for Boland, Tucker, and Steinberg.

[floridatennisdude]

Ugghhh, you're a UF fan? You are turning out to be the Dawgie Dawg of the Gator fans.

[Gatorluver]

Originally Posted by The Wreck

And it's probably fair to say that most very good players in Virginia are going to end up at Virginia, and most all of the talent in Florida is going elsewhere all over the country.

Sadly, this is very true and one of the reasons Jackson had to go.

[Automator]

Originally Posted by tennis7777777

I agree, in recruiting it is quality over quantity, so keep in mind florida kids with the right sat get free tuition at florida, that goes a long way with 4.5 scholarships. Now let's do some research, let's take a look at the top 3 kids to come out of florida and virginia over the last 3 years:

2007 - Those rankings don't include Shabaz, who was from Virginia, and was the #1 recruit as a freshman, sophomore and junior.

2010 - You missed Domijan, who is from Florida, and was considered the #1 newcomer when he entered college. His recruitment raises the question - why does Boland need to move to Florida when he can already snatch recruits out of the Sunshine State?

[BHSC]

Originally Posted by tennis_tater

Do you think those former players who are currently in "high profile spots" would give up their current "high profile" job for a lesser one at Clemson? Do you know if any of those guys even have an interest in being a D 1 college coach?

There are former Clemson guys who would be interested, though who knows when the job would open back up. My understanding is that Kriese would have liked one of them to get a chance, but he did not have much input in the last decision.

I'm not sure I'd say that coaching at a quality D 1 school in a major conference is a lesser job.

It all depends on what you are looking for in tennis. When you add in summer camps, the salary becomes good. You have stability as long as you are competitive. Not as much travel as working with the pros or sometimes even juniors. It can be good putting down roots in a college town, and being able to go home to the wife and kids at night.

[matchplay]

It will be at least six decades before any coach or school that could be considered as great as the schools below:
The only great programs "ever" are USC, UCLA, Stanford & UG,
these are the programs that can hire anyone they want at anytime, not a coach on earth that would turn these schools down if offered.
In recent years we see trends toward UVA, Duke and others who do indeed have great coaches, my guess is they would leave for any of the four programs mentioned above, but not for Florida, not Illinois, not ND, not Texas, not any other than maybe Pepperdine.