Raonic has top 5 potential

[CDNguy87]

Originally Posted by romeo8880

Man he's good. Juan Monaco lollll

Considering clay is Monaco's bread-and-butter and Raonic's worst surface, I don't get the humour in this. Monaco has also had a very solid year for the most part. Raonic is ranked around #20 right now, with practically no points to defend for the rest of the season and his most favourable tournaments coming up. I'd say a Top 15 year-end ranking is very likely (he's #13 in the Race now) with even Top 10 being reasonably possible. If he stays healthy long-term, I think a Top 5 ranking is probably inevitable at some point, although that's probably at least 2-3 years away.

[dcdoorknob]

He's borderline top 20 despite missing 4 months last year.

He just lost to a top 15 player on his weakest surface, and his opponent's strongest surface, in 5 sets.

Raonic is doing fine.

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by dcdoorknob

He's borderline top 20 despite missing 4 months last year.

He just lost to a top 15 player on his weakest surface, and his opponent's strongest surface, in 5 sets.

Raonic is doing fine.

Tsonga smashed Monaco at RG 2009 which was Monaco's best surface and Tsonga's worst. Why did Raonic not show this same potential even if he's not great on clay? He's still got enough talent to make the surface irrelevant. That's what good players are supposed to do. Raonic lost to Monaco and he should not have, no matter if it's clay or not.

[RoddickAce]

Originally Posted by CDNguy87

Considering clay is Monaco's bread-and-butter and Raonic's worst surface, I don't get the humour in this. Monaco has also had a very solid year for the most part. Raonic is ranked around #20 right now, with practically no points to defend for the rest of the season and his most favourable tournaments coming up. I'd say a Top 15 year-end ranking is very likely (he's #13 in the Race now) with even Top 10 being reasonably possible. If he stays healthy long-term, I think a Top 5 ranking is probably inevitable at some point, although that's probably at least 2-3 years away.

Agreed. I don't see what is so terrible about losing to Monaco, a higher seed, on Monaco's best surface (and Raonic's worst surface).

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by RoddickAce

Agreed. I don't see what is so terrible about losing to Monaco, a higher seed, on Monaco's best surface (and Raonic's worst surface).

Because Monoco is not a Slam quality player. Monaco is one who loses in the first or second rounds of Slams, be it grass, hardcourts AND CLAY! Raonic should NOT have lost this match!

[dcdoorknob]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

Tsonga smashed Monaco at RG 2009 which was Monaco's best surface and Tsonga's worst. Why did Raonic not show this same potential even if he's not great on clay? He's still got enough talent to make the surface irrelevant. That's what good players are supposed to do. Raonic lost to Monaco and he should not have, no matter if it's clay or not.

Monaco was ranked 68 in the world when he played Tsonga in 2009. He is unquestionably playing much better now.

And Tsonga has lost to Isner, Dolgopolov, Simon and Haas this year on clay. Perhaps you try to pick a better example.

[Zildite]

Monaco is arguably playing the best tennis of his career lately. This is the dawn of Monaco 2.0

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by Zildite

Monaco is arguably playing the best tennis of his career lately. This is the dawn of Monaco 2.0

And watch when Monaco only wins 3 games against Nadal in another dismal effort similar to his Davis Cup effort. Monaco is the most overrated player of all. He is not a Slam player. The fact that Federer made this guy look like a practice partner when Monaco was in form tells us everything about Monaco. Clay or not, Monaco is a clown.

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by dcdoorknob

Monaco was ranked 68 in the world when he played Tsonga in 2009. He is unquestionably playing much better now.

And Tsonga has lost to Isner, Dolgopolov, Simon and Haas this year on clay. Perhaps you try to pick a better example.

How can Monaco be playing better when he got bounced in the first round of Australian Open this year? Nobody cares if Monaco is playing well in garbage useless small clay tournaments. What matters is how you perform in the Slams. And Monaco on average is eliminated in the Slams most of the time by the 2nd round. A lot of the time gone in the 1st round.

[Smasher08]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

Very bad performance from Raonic. Was expecting A LOT better from him at this stage. Not impressed and not happy with what I saw from him against a very poor player like Monaco who is not at all talented.

Fascinating that, to you, the 13th seed is "a very poor player . . . who is not at all talented". And yet somehow (for reasons apparently unknown to you yet known to the seeding committee) this "very poor player" ended up as the 13th seed -- and justified it.

The 13th seed beat the 19th seed today in 5 sets. The surface was the 13th seed's best and the 19th seed's worst.

Yet somehow to you it was an epic failure for the lower seeded player.

Clearly not.

[GhostDog]

Originally Posted by Smasher08

Fascinating that, to you, the 13th seed is "a very poor player . . . who is not at all talented". And yet somehow (for reasons apparently unknown to you yet known to the seeding committee) this "very poor player" ended up as the 13th seed -- and justified it.

The 13th seed beat the 19th seed today in 5 sets. The surface was the 13th seed's best and the 19th seed's worst.

Yet somehow to you it was an epic failure for the lower seeded player.

Clearly not.

Well said. Monaco is one of the better clay court players in the world.

I thought Raonic would win (he probably would have if didn't have so many UE's), but the higher ranked player/better clay court player won, as he should have.

[ZeroSkid]

He has already reached his potential, he proved it today against Monaco

[firepanda]

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No more big servers... please...

[Brian11785]

Originally Posted by ZeroSkid

He has already reached his potential, he proved it today against Monaco

Man, you guys are a bunch of Negative Nancys.

[PrinceMoron]

Originally Posted by jm1980

Hopefully in the next 4 month's

... next 4 month's

... month's

For all that is holy, don't use apostrophes to pluralize words.

It's months.

No apostrophe.

£'s

mind your P's and Q's

Pros and cons

do's and don't's

Discos
Potatoes

How many S's in Mississippi?

More worried about people failing to kern, letter space and lead really.

[pound cat]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

Very bad performance from Raonic. Was expecting A LOT better from him at this stage. Not impressed and not happy with what I saw from him against a very poor player like Monaco who is not at all talented. 0-8 on BPs is telling stuff on how bad Raonic's return game is. Especially considering Monaco isn't even a good server.

Monaco is ranked #15 and is one of the best 5 or 6 clay court players on tour. Poor server? Not. His 1st serve was over 70% today. Check your facts before you post.

[Richie Rich]

Originally Posted by pound cat

Monaco is ranked #15 and is one of the best 5 or 6 clay court players on tour. Poor server? Not. His 1st serve was over 70% today. Check your facts before you post.

monaco served well. i watched most of the match and couldn't believe some of the poor shots raonic hit. it was like he was using the middle of the net for target practice. if he had played a bit better and converted a few break points i think he would have won the match.

[pound cat]

As a point of interest, Monaco is one of Raonic's buddies on the tour, along with Ferrer and Del Potro.

Has anyone read Raonic's interview? His first serve failed him big time.

And huge thanks fo RDS and TSN for showing the entire match...all 4 1/2 hours of it, as well as all of Wozniak's matches.

[Drrjjj]

Yes he is, he is very focused and his serve is one of the best in history. He just needs to come inside the baseline more often and be more aggressive after his big serves

[DeShaun]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

Because Monoco is not a Slam quality player. Monaco is one who loses in the first or second rounds of Slams, be it grass, hardcourts AND CLAY! Raonic should NOT have lost this match!

He strings his runs together in slams from time to time, doesn't he? E.g. didn't he make a little noise last year in Flushing? And that was on a hard court.