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Old 07-10-2012, 07:22 AM   #9461
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Yes he truly does. And I see why..it plays awesome in flexy sticks. I use cyberflash since I like it better (lasts longer). The spin is honestly pretty vicious. This is most likely a 6 hour stringjob..maybe 8..but if you string up 3 sticks with it you can easily rotate and have this awesome feel and playabilty while only spending $6 a job.

the yy 200 gives me so much spin, that a poly main is a waste and not needed. Gads had the same experience. So I opt for feel and touch, and of course the ultra loud cracking sound that a crisp setup has is a nice bonus.

Im going to rock this setup a little longer and if I still love it, a reel of OGSM is $35. That's ridiculous..$89 sticks and $4 string jobs..that is my idea of doing it right!!!

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Old 07-10-2012, 12:08 PM   #9462
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Yes, ross is back in!! muhahahaha.

Rad Pro, yy200tour, juice pro - is the new trend here moving towards more flex??
Indeezy. And yeah, that Rad Pro is the lone stick I still wonder about. As it's about the lone stick I haven't demoed and I like the swingweight and flex potential. Obviously, it seems I've tried absolutely everything else at this point.

And Meaghs, healthy lead along the upper hoop of the 89 - dude you are a beast.
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:32 PM   #9463
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yeah its funny because I have pretty much tried about everything. I am trying to save $$ for once on tennis since I am burning though gut right now in the humid summers. It is a lot easier when you have a setup that plays awesome and is easy on the arm.

The summers are brutal here. Even the stock yy200 can even get kind of heavy after a while due to the intense heat, so I doubt the tour series is going to get a run from me.
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:38 PM   #9464
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And Meaghs, healthy lead along the upper hoop of the 89 - dude you are a beast.
I am constantly amazed by modification. My initial feeling for the balance and sw was, this thing feels heavy in the head and swings nicely. I modded, 5g of foil tape in hoop 4g of dense lead top of handle, after playing i reduced it to 4g in the hoop, my pick up was a touch laboured. I recieved my second 89 and decided to tweak. I noticed that my modded racket swung easier than stock. I also noticed that whilst adding weight to the hoop i forgot to add to the handle, this had negligible affect on balance but proved to make the lighter stick rather cumbersome. On realising my error i add the weight back to the handle and im amazed at how easily it swings again. My last mod was to see whether the dense lead set up at 10,12&2 similar to my dnx mid set up would improve upon my foil tape. Keeping the same spec i was amazed again to find that i gained more manouverability than the previous foil tape set up.

It just goes to show that tweaking and being aware of its affect can make a huge difference. My set up now with more static and sw actually is an easier stick to use than stock. So as for 'beast' i'll take that ha but the muscle presides mainly in my head and my cognitive approach.
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:49 PM   #9465
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I have to say that I am equally fascinated that the 200 really needs no mods after you get used to it. Gads and I tried different lead tape configs and nothing really did much to improve the stick. I did like lead at 12 the most since it added plow, but even that was not needed. This is truly a "timing" stick. As long as you hit relaxed and with good timing, it does everything you could want at stock weight.

And then other sticks just take so well to lead that its like they were meant for it. The PK7g with that 9 pts balance, just begged for lead at 12 for example.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:18 PM   #9466
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Racketholics:

What makes you want to try new rackets ?

I know for sure I am one, but it's like I need something to get excited about playing or something to get excited about "getting back on the horse"...

I'm playing the best tennis of my life and b/c I'm 0-3 (all very tight matches, could be 3-0), it's like I have to go find "an answer" for why that is...

Meanwhile I made it to the semi's of the second to highest level in the city this past spring (with the Prestiges).

I need to stop changing /buying rackets to overcome losses.

I need help...

Meanwhile, I love the stiffness of the 90s/6.1s/85, but I need something between the wilsons and the Prestige MP. Any thoughts.?
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:24 PM   #9467
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Racketholics:

What makes you want to try new rackets ?

I know for sure I am one, but it's like I need something to get excited about playing or something to get excited about "getting back on the horse"...

I'm playing the best tennis of my life and b/c I'm 0-3 (all very tight matches, could be 3-0), it's like I have to go find "an answer" for why that is...

Meanwhile I made it to the semi's of the second to highest level in the city this past spring (with the Prestiges).

I need to stop changing /buying rackets to overcome losses.

I need help...

Meanwhile, I love the stiffness of the 90s/6.1s/85, but I need something between the wilsons and the Prestige MP. Any thoughts.?
It's a mix between a genuine love of feeling the differences between different frames and how they can affect your shot and game, along with genuine stupidity.

And by the way, that IG MP, if you're playing well with it and it's feeling good - I know the highs of it and still think it's a stupendous frame. Curious, where are your 10 grams of lead? I got caught in lead hell with the IG MP, never able to match the swing/balance of my demo frame, and gave up. It still haunts me because I know how good that frame can be. Amazing stick when it's just right.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:26 PM   #9468
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^^^

I think that can be some of it.

Also injury for me has been a key factor.

I love having consistency though. I think inconsistency is maddening in tennis.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:52 PM   #9469
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Racketholics:

What makes you want to try new rackets ?

I know for sure I am one, but it's like I need something to get excited about playing or something to get excited about "getting back on the horse"...

I'm playing the best tennis of my life and b/c I'm 0-3 (all very tight matches, could be 3-0), it's like I have to go find "an answer" for why that is...

Meanwhile I made it to the semi's of the second to highest level in the city this past spring (with the Prestiges).

I need to stop changing /buying rackets to overcome losses.

I need help...

Meanwhile, I love the stiffness of the 90s/6.1s/85, but I need something between the wilsons and the Prestige MP. Any thoughts.?
Have you tried the vcore 95? I love the fed frames but I simply cannot go back...I can strike the ball with the same confidence but more pace...with leather grip and full poly it is a supercharged ps85.

The prestige is too weak for me. Or vice versa....
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:24 PM   #9470
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Thanks fellas. Good stuff.

I feel like I can be consistent and play defense all day with the Prestige, but when I want some power, it's not there - like it is with the Wilsons. Certainly something as simple as a full multi wouldn't help would it ? I seem to get more pop out of a hybrid. But I wouldn't want a multi to make me gun-shy.

BTW, I put the weight in the butt cap. I know have one with weight in the butt and one without.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:24 PM   #9471
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Racketholics:

What makes you want to try new rackets ?

I know for sure I am one, but it's like I need something to get excited about playing or something to get excited about "getting back on the horse"...

I'm playing the best tennis of my life and b/c I'm 0-3 (all very tight matches, could be 3-0), it's like I have to go find "an answer" for why that is...

Meanwhile I made it to the semi's of the second to highest level in the city this past spring (with the Prestiges).

I need to stop changing /buying rackets to overcome losses.

I need help...

Meanwhile, I love the stiffness of the 90s/6.1s/85, but I need something between the wilsons and the Prestige MP. Any thoughts.?
Two things make me search for new frames.
1st, is the simple "it hurts too much to use" situation which sadly was the case with the Vcore 95d.
2nd and far more common is the weather here, when i'm not playing i am far more likely to be here reading about things thinking, "oh that looks nice"..........
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:25 PM   #9472
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I CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE!!!..... I'M DONE.



I'm starting a 'support group'- thread, for recovering members and to help anyone who thinks they might have a problem. If we catch it early enough, it's treatable.

I'm not reading this thread anymore..... I'll take a peek..... Nope.... Just one......I'm still reading this thread..... Last time.

MADNESS I TELL YOU.

I need help... what's that?... the first to do is admit I have a problem?.... Done.


Hello, my name is Klem... and I'm a racquetholic
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:25 PM   #9473
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Indeezy. And yeah, that Rad Pro is the lone stick I still wonder about. As it's about the lone stick I haven't demoed and I like the swingweight and flex potential. Obviously, it seems I've tried absolutely everything else at this point.

And Meaghs, healthy lead along the upper hoop of the 89 - dude you are a beast.
Personally, I wish they would stiffen up the Rad Pro some...maybe around 65.
So many people seem to struggle with the superflexy nature of it. Just tone it down a little!
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:20 PM   #9474
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65 is where the prestiges are though. The rads are flexy. They are old school feeling base lining sticks designed for Agassi back in the day. He always used flexy sticks. His donnay felt incredible..it was just rather low powered, but what a cool stick it was. To make the radical stiff would take way the magic. It is a stick for the baseliner with more advanced strokes and who likes to really feel the ball on his stick..a la Agassi.
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65 is where the prestiges are though. The rads are flexy. They are old school feeling base lining sticks designed for Agassi back in the day. He always used flexy sticks. His donnay felt incredible..it was just rather low powered, but what a cool stick it was. To make the radical stiff would take way the magic. It is a stick for the baseliner with more advanced strokes and who likes to really feel the ball on his stick..a la Agassi.
agree. anyone know just how flexy agassi's frame was?

from hitting with a couple now, and from what I was reading on the boards, seems like one constant in so many of these pro stock layups for the pros is that they're all a bit flexy.

also, it's always crazy to me when they do those super slo-mo shots of players swinging through the zone and to see the total wobble of the frame -- Fed's frame wobbles like crazy on contact. not sure if that's how most of the frames wobble but his always seems a little more pronounced to me during those slo-mo shots.
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I was talking to a few pros and they said it just is so much easier on the arm especially if they use full poly. They are hitting and absorbing so many heavy balls, and their technique is so dialed in that the flex is an added advantage for them. Even rafa is more at 65 and so is roddick with their babolats. A lot of the pros Babs are softer than retail.

It makes sense..I played one of our pros in doubles and he was firing some big serves at me. As long as I got a racquet on it, it felt so good to return them and just guide them where I wanted. No jarring or vibrating at all even if I didn't hit clean.

Once again the courier setup delivered for me..I'm total loving it in this racquet. Perfect match.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:36 PM   #9477
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klem,

Pull yourself together man. Get a grip. Do as the British do... Keep calm. Do not panic. And carry on.


Jack, JG, PP,

So, just how flexy is that Rad Pro?! Could people please describe it in fuller detail.

Actually, one of the most unique frames for soft flex I ever played was the Rad Tour Twin Tube. Any of you ever hit with that one? A great frame IMO.


All,

With a certain proviso, today should provide a good (and rare) opportunity to see quite where I stand with my silver/red Pro No 1 later... Can I really handle this frame? Does it really suit me, when most similar-ish-type player's frame, though I do love them, are undoubtedly a bit too advanced for me (the PT630, PSC 6.1, and Prestiges immediately springs to mind)?...

Anyhow, versus a good player (and I'm hoping to be able to contrast with my APDO more directly), today should be illuminating... as long as (here's that proviso, folks) - as long as it doesn't do what it has in fact been doing here in London for months, and RAIN ... even by our standards of grim weather, England this year is on a different, wetter and milder level altogether.
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Rad Pro seems to get flexier as you go from the throat to the tip.
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Looking forward to a league match tonight, its been a little trying of late with th UK being besieged by Zeus and his merry rain dance....

Anyways on another note, pushed the random cd button in the car and on came 'Different Class' by Pulp, one of the best albums ever made imo and just so typically English ("It may look to the untrained eye, Im sitting on my arse all day"), just Jarvis genius at his best. I decided to stick it out on the road til the album was finished......ha, must of looked like a nutter, singing with the cd blasting.....oh well I deserve my right to have a middle aged crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5WSNceUgNU
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Anyways on another note, pushed the random cd button in the car and on came 'Different Class' by Pulp, one of the best albums ever made imo and just so typically English ("It may look to the untrained eye, Im sitting on my arse all day"), just Jarvis genius at his best. I decided to stick it out on the road til the album was finished......ha, must of looked like a nutter, singing with the cd blasting.....oh well I deserve my right to have a middle aged crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5WSNceUgNU
nothing beats disco 2000, imho
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