**The PURE DRIVE 2012 Forum (club)**

[GarryClarke]

Originally Posted by JackB1

Anyone else have any trouble removing lead tape from the Pure Drive? I peeled off a 4" piece I had at 12' and it took the paint with it!. Any way to prevent this from happening again?

jack

i took mawashi,s advice and used lighter fluid (petrol lighter fluid not gas)
i just peeled it slowly while squirting the lighter fluid which breaks down the glue and hey presto no paint removed.

[nguyendat9]

any body string Tour Bite in PDR? best tension?

[JLDN]

I joined the club today...Pure Drive 2012 Roddick Plus.

Getting back into tennis after a 24 year absence and have been using my trusty '87/'88 Kennex Black Ace for a few weeks. Demoed an older Pure Drive GT (blue one) and really enjoyed it so went for the 2012 version.

Found the string choices truly overwhelming so went with Powergy at 57 lbs as a starting point.

Hope to be able to hit tomorrow....

[GarryClarke]

Originally Posted by JLDN

I joined the club today...Pure Drive 2012 Roddick Plus.

Getting back into tennis after a 24 year absence and have been using my trusty '87/'88 Kennex Black Ace for a few weeks. Demoed an older Pure Drive GT (blue one) and really enjoyed it so went for the 2012 version.

Found the string choices truly overwhelming so went with Powergy at 57 lbs as a starting point.

Hope to be able to hit tomorrow....

welcome to the club

keep us posted on how you get on with 2012 PDR+

cheers garry

[JLDN]

Originally Posted by GarryClarke

welcome to the club

keep us posted on how you get on with 2012 PDR+

cheers garry

Thanks Garry, I appreciate it.

[babolat king]

I am back with the Pure Drives after about a 6 year hiatus. The 6 years I spent in limbo amongst other less spectacular racquets.

I am glad I made the decision to come back. The Black Drives are SICK!!! More feel, most power, biggest sweetspot and by far the best paint.

[GarryClarke]

Can't believe this thread has slipped to page 3

Have cut out the pro,s blackout/syngut as it didn't have enough spin for my liking plus just not enough power,I did add 3grams of lead at 12 but still not what I'm after.

Have just string PTS @ 52/50 full bed and wil be on court Saturday to try it out,it gets a good write up so I'm hoping it will add that extra spin to my game and as a full poly it's supposed to be arm friendly!!!!!!!

Stringing it was a nightmare as its my 1st poly job,but if it gives me what I'm after then it was worth it.

[BC1]

Originally Posted by GarryClarke

Can't believe this thread has slipped to page 3

Get with it! The pd is old news. Haven't you heard? Yonex is getting all the attention right now!

Just kidding ya! But seriously, most of the posts have been yonex related lately (me included). There will always be a spot in my heart saved for the pd though.

[smirker]

Originally Posted by BC1

Get with it! The pd is old news. Haven't you heard? Yonex is getting all the attention right now!

Just kidding ya! But seriously, most of the posts have been yonex related lately (me included). There will always be a spot in my heart saved for the pd though.

BC1, I know you are only teasing with the derogatory PD comments!

Re Yonex, admittedly I have only hit with two Yonex frames (RD7 and RDiS 200) but both have felt underpowered to me. The RDiS is a mate of mines and he has since purchased a PD as he was getting out hit from the baseline when using the RDiS. A lot of his shots were dropping on the service line with loopy spin and getting punished. Since he bought the PD his shots have become deeper and more penetrating.

I like Yonex sticks and think they are some of the best quality wise. I have yet to find one that matches up in performance terms.

Any recs on which ones I should try?

[GarryClarke]

Originally Posted by BC1

Get with it! The pd is old news. Haven't you heard? Yonex is getting all the attention right now!

Just kidding ya! But seriously, most of the posts have been yonex related lately (me included). There will always be a spot in my heart saved for the pd though.

lol and i did wonder!!!!,i thought everyone was on holiday lol

im enjoying my PD more than ever now ive got a stringing maching to play around with strings,plus now i no it was the excel that was doing my arm big time but it has fully recovered and im smashing the balls as hard as ever

i dont think i will ever get rid of the PD as it is a serious weapon and gives me bags of power/spin,just how i like to play and my game has improved 10 fold and long may it continue

[BC1]

Originally Posted by smirker

BC1, I know you are only teasing with the derogatory PD comments!

Re Yonex, admittedly I have only hit with two Yonex frames (RD7 and RDiS 200) but both have felt underpowered to me. The RDiS is a mate of mines and he has since purchased a PD as he was getting out hit from the baseline when using the RDiS. A lot of his shots were dropping on the service line with loopy spin and getting punished. Since he bought the PD his shots have become deeper and more penetrating.

I like Yonex sticks and think they are some of the best quality wise. I have yet to find one that matches up in performance terms.

Any recs on which ones I should try?

No derogatory pd comments from me. Seriously, the pd is a great racquet. Hell, I started this thread! And I still stand by it. To be honest with you I don't think I'm good enough for it. If I had a better top-spin game that allowed me to swing all out and keep the ball in, there isn't a better frame imo. And I will always hold on to one. I just seem to be inconsistent with them lately, more so then norm, and am trying out a playerish frame to see how i do with that. I wouldn't bet against the pd anyday, and I might end up back with one or something like it.

I almost think the pds are for 3.0s or upper 4.0 and above. Not upper 3.5s and lower 4.0s. Here me out (others have actually agreed with this logic). The pd is great for beginners and most anyone because you can just throw the racquet out there and keep the ball in play. And they are great for advanced players, because an advanced player can control the power and use the power to their advantage with the proper top-spin stroke, swing through and technique (one reason you see so many at the college and pro level). However, with an upper 3.5 game or lower 4.0 game some players (me included) don't have a great topspin game, yet I do have a good swing and good all around game. Playing the opponents I do (upper 3.5s and 4.0+), I need to do far more then just get the ball back over the net. Yet I lack the control with the pd due to the power. So, I'm not bad enough for it, or good enough for it. That's my story for now. How's that for rambling on? Anyway, the pd is a very good stick. I'm just ready for something different. It has served me well for years and probably will again.

As far as the yonex goes, the Xi100, xi 98 or the vcore 100s will give you what you want. Comparable to a pd but with a little more control and flex (maybe). Lots of power in the XIs. But I have a hard time with the xi headshape - to square for me.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by JLDN

I joined the club today...Pure Drive 2012 Roddick Plus.

Getting back into tennis after a 24 year absence and have been using my trusty '87/'88 Kennex Black Ace for a few weeks. Demoed an older Pure Drive GT (blue one) and really enjoyed it so went for the 2012 version.

Found the string choices truly overwhelming so went with Powergy at 57 lbs as a starting point.

Hope to be able to hit tomorrow....

what grip size is that ? and is powergy synthetic or poly ?

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by smirker

BC1, I know you are only teasing with the derogatory PD comments!

Re Yonex, admittedly I have only hit with two Yonex frames (RD7 and RDiS 200) but both have felt underpowered to me. The RDiS is a mate of mines and he has since purchased a PD as he was getting out hit from the baseline when using the RDiS. A lot of his shots were dropping on the service line with loopy spin and getting punished. Since he bought the PD his shots have become deeper and more penetrating.

I like Yonex sticks and think they are some of the best quality wise. I have yet to find one that matches up in performance terms.

Any recs on which ones I should try?

Honestly, none of the stuff you mentioned is actually on the racquet. the RDIS is not underpowered at all, but it is a stick that rewards good timing and a relaxed swing. If you muscle the ball, dont prep right or hit with poor timing you will not get a lot out of the racquet.

The stiffness of the PD bails out poor technique a lot, and it also will reward good technique as well.

[smirker]

Originally Posted by Power Player

Honestly, none of the stuff you mentioned is actually on the racquet. the RDIS is not underpowered at all, but it is a stick that rewards good timing and a relaxed swing. If you muscle the ball, dont prep right or hit with poor timing you will not get a lot out of the racquet.

The stiffness of the PD bails out poor technique a lot, and it also will reward good technique as well.

Sorry PP, not sure I get what you are saying in the first sentence?

In your hands I am sure it's a real weapon but in his (and mine) it was a bit of a liability. Not saying it's the racquet at fault, probably just not suited to our skill level. Do you consider it to be a players frame or more of a game improvement stick? It could just be that I don't get on with Yonex frames. Never had a Babolat before either so no bias there.

[IA-SteveB]

Originally Posted by BC1

I almost think the pds are for 3.0s or upper 4.0 and above. Not upper 3.5s and lower 4.0s. Here me out (others have actually agreed with this logic). The pd is great for beginners and most anyone because you can just throw the racquet out there and keep the ball in play. And they are great for advanced players, because an advanced player can control the power and use the power to their advantage with the proper top-spin stroke, swing through and technique (one reason you see so many at the college and pro level). However, with an upper 3.5 game or lower 4.0 game some players (me included) don't have a great topspin game, yet I do have a good swing and good all around game. Playing the opponents I do (upper 3.5s and 4.0+), I need to do far more then just get the ball back over the net. Yet I lack the control with the pd due to the power. So, I'm not bad enough for it, or good enough for it. That's my story for now. How's that for rambling on? Anyway, the pd is a very good stick. I'm just ready for something different. It has served me well for years and probably will again.

I tend to agree with what you are saying and I follow your logic. When I picked up a racquet early this year after a long layoff, I thought the PD was great because of a massive serve and good power potential. It made up for a lot in my 3.0 game at the time. As I progressed over the past few months playing a LOT, I tended to want to swing more because I felt comfortable doing so. The problem was, I wasn't good enough at spinning it to keep it in. I consider myself a middle card 3.5 right now and I am still doing well with the racquet. I will be trying out a new string setup tonight, which is Xcel French Open 17ga at 56 pounds. When strung at 62, it was pretty tame so I am eager to see if I can adjust to a lower tension since I think I have a better forehand than even a few weeks ago. I will know in a few hours!

[smirker]

Originally Posted by BC1

No derogatory pd comments from me. Seriously, the pd is a great racquet. Hell, I started this thread! And I still stand by it. To be honest with you I don't think I'm good enough for it. If I had a better top-spin game that allowed me to swing all out and keep the ball in, there isn't a better frame imo. And I will always hold on to one. I just seem to be inconsistent with them lately, more so then norm, and am trying out a playerish frame to see how i do with that. I wouldn't bet against the pd anyday, and I might end up back with one or something like it.

I almost think the pds are for 3.0s or upper 4.0 and above. Not upper 3.5s and lower 4.0s. Here me out (others have actually agreed with this logic). The pd is great for beginners and most anyone because you can just throw the racquet out there and keep the ball in play. And they are great for advanced players, because an advanced player can control the power and use the power to their advantage with the proper top-spin stroke, swing through and technique (one reason you see so many at the college and pro level). However, with an upper 3.5 game or lower 4.0 game some players (me included) don't have a great topspin game, yet I do have a good swing and good all around game. Playing the opponents I do (upper 3.5s and 4.0+), I need to do far more then just get the ball back over the net. Yet I lack the control with the pd due to the power. So, I'm not bad enough for it, or good enough for it. That's my story for now. How's that for rambling on? Anyway, the pd is a very good stick. I'm just ready for something different. It has served me well for years and probably will again.

As far as the yonex goes, the Xi100, xi 98 or the vcore 100s will give you what you want. Comparable to a pd but with a little more control and flex (maybe). Lots of power in the XIs. But I have a hard time with the xi headshape - to square for me.

Will have a look at those on TW but difficult to get hold of Yonex round here. Happy with the PD right now, just hope my elbow holds up!

[GarryClarke]

Originally Posted by BC1

No derogatory pd comments from me. Seriously, the pd is a great racquet. Hell, I started this thread! And I still stand by it. To be honest with you I don't think I'm good enough for it. If I had a better top-spin game that allowed me to swing all out and keep the ball in, there isn't a better frame imo. And I will always hold on to one. I just seem to be inconsistent with them lately, more so then norm, and am trying out a playerish frame to see how i do with that. I wouldn't bet against the pd anyday, and I might end up back with one or something like it.

I almost think the pds are for 3.0s or upper 4.0 and above. Not upper 3.5s and lower 4.0s. Here me out (others have actually agreed with this logic). The pd is great for beginners and most anyone because you can just throw the racquet out there and keep the ball in play. And they are great for advanced players, because an advanced player can control the power and use the power to their advantage with the proper top-spin stroke, swing through and technique (one reason you see so many at the college and pro level). However, with an upper 3.5 game or lower 4.0 game some players (me included) don't have a great topspin game, yet I do have a good swing and good all around game. Playing the opponents I do (upper 3.5s and 4.0+), I need to do far more then just get the ball back over the net. Yet I lack the control with the pd due to the power. So, I'm not bad enough for it, or good enough for it. That's my story for now. How's that for rambling on? Anyway, the pd is a very good stick. I'm just ready for something different. It has served me well for years and probably will again.

As far as the yonex goes, the Xi100, xi 98 or the vcore 100s will give you what you want. Comparable to a pd but with a little more control and flex (maybe). Lots of power in the XIs. But I have a hard time with the xi headshape - to square for me.

hey bobby

no explanation need for me as its your choice on whatever you play with or dont play with,and if youve found the racket that suits you then im more than happy for you.

its a shame im to inexperienced to no what your trying to explain but i will take your word for it lol

i still switch back to my LM8 at hitting practice and i enjoy that racket too,the PD just seems to have more quality on ball purchase if you no what i mean.
i can leather the ball and it stays well in court which i just cant do with the LM8 plus i string that with soft syngut/maxim touch.

i will have a look at the yonex range as im now curious!!!!!

cheers garry

[GarryClarke]

Originally Posted by IA-SteveB

I will be trying out a new string setup tonight, which is Xcel French Open 17ga at 56 pounds.

steve

i was using xcel FO @56 and its a pretty stiff setup for a multi!!!!
just be careful as its IMO its not arm friendly,i had never had any arm/shoulder problems and after a couple of weeks hitting with the xcel i had numbness in the back of my hand and sore TE tendons,im not saying it will do that to you or anyone else but it got cut out and replaced with a softer setup till my hand/TE (which is now healed) got better.

good luck with the xcel as it,s a great string with bags of power.spin is ok but all of this is IMO only

keep us posted on how it hits

cheers garry

[JackB1]

Originally Posted by GarryClarke

steve

i was using xcel FO @56 and its a pretty stiff setup for a multi!!!!
just be careful as its IMO its not arm friendly,i had never had any arm/shoulder problems and after a couple of weeks hitting with the xcel i had numbness in the back of my hand and sore TE tendons,im not saying it will do that to you or anyone else but it got cut out and replaced with a softer setup till my hand/TE (which is now healed) got better.

good luck with the xcel as it,s a great string with bags of power.spin is ok but all of this is IMO only

keep us posted on how it hits

cheers garry

What are you now using instead of the Xcel?

[Nostradamus]

Oh boy, i am still in search of ideal string setup for this PD 2012 racket. I tried the Kirschbaum Proline Evolution hybrid with X-1 biphase strung at 57 lbs. Did NOT work. had some major issue with control. maybe it was the different stringer i used. my usual guy was on vacation and i had to use a different stringing shop.

Has anyone experience with this ? Use a different stringer and have control issues on next match ? This new guy i used is not a bad stringer. certified stringer he is. maybe it was the different machine he was using ?