For all one hand back handers

[35ft6]

People with one handers seem like, in general, they're less patient than people with two-handers for some reason. They seem incapable or unwilling to use their backhand in a rational way to keep them in a point.

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by 35ft6

People with one handers seem like, in general, they're less patient than people with two-handers for some reason. They seem incapable or unwilling to use their backhand in a rational way to keep them in a point.

Who have you been playing? LOL! I find it's actually the opposite for me. Two handers I play against seem much more ready to "pull the trigger" with their backhand.

-Fuji

[gahaha]

Originally Posted by ChopShot

Well, true, perhaps, for the less skilled 1hbh population, but really, if you play on clay for long enough, you eventually learn a stroke that fits this situation perfectly... The open stance 1hbh
And no, I'm not kidding. Nice wide open stance, coiling of the hips, minimal takeback. Uncoil, ???, profit. Works every time. Great for dipping CC passing shots. If your opponent has hit a good enough approach so as to force you to go DTL, tough luck, you're screwed whatever shot you try, unless you're blessed with a ridiculous half-volley passing shot.

I think he means if someone drills a shot right behind you, a lot of one handers play net, don't assume that we'd always be covering baseline. Only option here would be stepping back, with your back to net doing a flick or a slice, of course you can try and read the hit and take it early and out of the air but that's not always possible.

Then again its a difficult shot to return for any style.

[Limibeans]

Originally Posted by 35ft6

People with one handers seem like, in general, they're less patient than people with two-handers for some reason. They seem incapable or unwilling to use their backhand in a rational way to keep them in a point.

I wouldnt say so.

Problem is most people only have a backhand slice and a harder backhand slice because they lack the topspin backhand, or if they have a topspin backhand they try to blast it every single time and not ever slice.

Also, if you play a lot of doubles, slicing is really not much of an option as it is in singles. You can get away with some pretty bad backhand returns in singles, but not so much in doubles.

[ChopShot]

Originally Posted by gahaha

I think he means if someone drills a shot right behind you, a lot of one handers play net, don't assume that we'd always be covering baseline. Only option here would be stepping back, with your back to net doing a flick or a slice, of course you can try and read the hit and take it early and out of the air but that's not always possible.

Then again its a difficult shot to return for any style.

Well, if your opponent is trying to hit a passing shot to the baseline corner, then he should be the one in trouble provided he isn't blasting it at supersonic speeds. If you're playing net, it's your prerogative to take a such insipidly aimed shot out of the air with a vengeance. If he's dipping it to your backhand, aiming for the middle of the service box, then that's an entirely different story. Few people get away with volleys from that position.

[gahaha]

Originally Posted by ChopShot

Well, if your opponent is trying to hit a passing shot to the baseline corner, then he should be the one in trouble provided he isn't blasting it at supersonic speeds. If you're playing net, it's your prerogative to take a such insipidly aimed shot out of the air with a vengeance. If he's dipping it to your backhand, aiming for the middle of the service box, then that's an entirely different story. Few people get away with volleys from that position.

Depends on positioning during the game also, a lot of the time retrieving shots will put you out of position. But yea, dipping topspin to backhand while your at net is a

[Jake Speed]

Well,

For those that didn't believe a word I said about backhands and a suitable backhand grip, a huge fuss for nothing, BTW.

I suggest you read the following. I found this on line while in prison.

Gee, I see everything I said about grips here, but I said more!

Good reading and true.

http://www.globaltennisforum.com/ten...and-grips.html

JS #1

Back and better than ever!

[LeeD]

Unfortunately, I'm a pretty good tournament fencer (epee) left handed, but use machete, axes, and samurai swords right handed, so I'm confused.
My right handed backhand totally stinks, while my left handed backhand is better than it can rallly.

[gahaha]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Unfortunately, I'm a pretty good tournament fencer (epee) left handed, but use machete, axes, and samurai swords right handed, so I'm confused.
My right handed backhand totally stinks, while my left handed backhand is better than it can rallly.

Are you drawing the katana right? With blade in sheath pointing up, same stance as a one hand back hand stance.

As for the link above, it is an in depth explanation of different grips and weaknesses.

Almost every one hand back hander have trouble with high balls, this is why its ideal to *switch* to extreme eastern when handling those. I've found that while an extreme eastern is ideal when facing high bouncing balls, its effectiveness is limited during play. It shares the same limitations as the western grip, low skidding slices are killer, handling medium bouncing flat hits are tough, and even tougher for those of us who are tall, because of having to bend lower and twisting the arm more. It all comes down to preference and tactic.

I prefer to play closer to net, as a lot of one hand back handers do. So an extreme eastern would not be ideal, and eastern grip provides more than adequate topspin for me.

[gahaha]

Originally Posted by Jake Speed

Well,

For those that didn't believe a word I said about backhands and a suitable backhand grip, a huge fuss for nothing, BTW.

I suggest you read the following. I found this on line while in prison.

Gee, I see everything I said about grips here, but I said more!

Good reading and true.

http://www.globaltennisforum.com/ten...and-grips.html

JS #1

Back and better than ever!

I've read a similar article years ago, its content is not even close to what you were saying. Moderators do delete spam or troll posts, they would not delete a post with good content.

[Jake Speed]

Originally Posted by gahaha

I've read a similar article years ago, its content is not even close to what you were saying. Moderators do delete spam or troll posts, they would not delete a post with good content.

I suggest you review what I was saying.

I'll help you out. The key word is "Extreme backhand grip."

JS #1

Back and better than ever!

[goober]

Originally Posted by gahaha

I've read a similar article years ago, its content is not even close to what you were saying. Moderators do delete spam or troll posts, they would not delete a post with good content.

Moderators have deleted entire threads in the past many of which contained individual posts with good content and were not spam or trolling.

[gahaha]

Originally Posted by Jake Speed

I suggest you review what I was saying.

I'll help you out. The key word is "Extreme backhand grip."

JS #1

Back and better than ever!

What you were saying prior to your ban was not close to it at all. I am glad you took the time to review and got your facts right, moderators have good reason to ban someone and do not do it for fun. Now I had every single nonsense post prior to your ban deleted from all three of my threads via contacting forum moderators, please stop trolling my thread unless you want further actions taken.

[Dreamer]

Geez what a long thread, I only read OP and will respond accordingly. I believe a lot of the difficulty is self prophetic. People buy into it and don't believe they can cope. Everyone looks to Federer-Nadal backhand dynamics, but in recreational play you will not see a Nadal's high topspin. In fact you will only see it performed at that level by Nadal himself.

The truth is there are plenty of 1handers that handle high balls well, especially at recreational level. You don't have to create some special tactic, just understand your shot better-- the range and contact point. and you will be able to shorten or cut it off and resume a baseline rally.

It's fine to create some form of tactic, but also don't limit yourself with ideas that are not necessarily true.

[gahaha]

Originally Posted by Dreamer

Geez what a long thread, I only read OP and will respond accordingly. I believe a lot of the difficulty is self prophetic. People buy into it and don't believe they can cope. Everyone looks to Federer-Nadal backhand dynamics, but in recreational play you will not see a Nadal's high topspin. In fact you will only see it performed at that level by Nadal himself.

The truth is there are plenty of 1handers that handle high balls well, especially at recreational level. You don't have to create some special tactic, just understand your shot better-- the range and contact point. and you will be able to shorten or cut it off and resume a baseline rally.

It's fine to create some form of tactic, but also don't limit yourself with ideas that are not necessarily true.

Ah, well that's true, but I do better closer to net than all the way from baseline, it just depends on your strengths and weaknesses I guess.

You wouldn't believe how many rec tennis players are moonballers..

[truetifoso]

For a number of reasons including the potential for more power and stability/consistency, I'm switching from a 1HB to a 2HB.

I'm a 4.0 who has played with a 1HB for close to 30 years. That said - while still a solid stroke - it's still definitely my weaker wing, and something happened over the past few weeks that has brought me to a point where I can't hit a topspin 1HB to save my life. I've got what I believe golfers call a "hitch." So, I'm taking this opportunity to make the switch.

The 2HB feels completely different, but when I strike it just right it feels really, really good. I figure if it takes me 6-12 months to learn the stroke, then I'll have a better backhand for the next 30 years of tennis.

Thoughts?

[Meaghan]

My 1hbh is a very consistent shot, ok its not as good as two hands in certain situations but i could never get the hang of a 2hbh and the one hand feels a very natural shot. In some ways more so than the fh which has a lot more room for error.
At 6'4 i actually like the loopy topspin played to that side, having a full western bh also helps, also having a high take back is essential.
As for rallying it is important that my contact point is way out in front with my grip being so extreme. This is where having two hands on the club gives you a little more time.

I also have a full western fh so i don't change grips from fh to bh. The fw1hbh is becoming very rare (ala guga) and not changing grips is almost unheard of. Guga is prime Example here, full western fore and back but still turns his racket grip all the way round to use the other side of the bat.

[jswinf]

Let's see, 30 years 1hbh plus 1/2 to 1 year learning/perfecting 2hbh plus 30 years good 2hbh equals 60.5 to 61 years of tennis. Sounds about right. I'd say go for it!

[DeShaun]

Originally Posted by truetifoso

For a number of reasons including the potential for more power and stability/consistency, I'm switching from a 1HB to a 2HB.

I'm a 4.0 who has played with a 1HB for close to 30 years. That said - while still a solid stroke - it's still definitely my weaker wing, and something happened over the past few weeks that has brought me to a point where I can't hit a topspin 1HB to save my life. I've got what I believe golfers call a "hitch." So, I'm taking this opportunity to make the switch.

The 2HB feels completely different, but when I strike it just right it feels really, really good. I figure if it takes me 6-12 months to learn the stroke, then I'll have a better backhand for the next 30 years of tennis.

Thoughts?

I think you should go for it because whatever lights your fire and excites you is always good to pursue. If your 1HB has grown a hitch, it may be time for you to set the 1HB free and begin studying a 2HB.

[FrisbeeFool]

I think it depends on the player and what feels natural to you. As long as you use the proper technique either way will work for you. I learned a two hander growing up. At 22 years old I switched to a one hander. It was easier to learn for me than the 2 hander. Now it is my best shot.

One handed bh hitters like corretja, costa, guga, gaudio, wawrinka, almagro, etc handle high balls well. Gaudio was around 5 ft 9 - 5ft 10, I think, and he crunched high balls.

It's all a personal preference thing, about what feels natural for you. Some players don't like high forehands.