The Crossfit Games - Page 2

vkartikv · 07-24-2012, 10:49 AM

'Kipping pullups' (where you use momentum to swing yourself up) are not pullups!!!! While I don't have anything against the crossfit culture, my 'traditional' bodybuilding friends from the gym absolutely loathe it and call it a joke.

hollywood9826 · 07-24-2012, 11:45 AM

Most body building guys are trying to isolate one muscle.

A Kipping pullup does not do that. When a bodybuilder does a pullup he does the dead hangs to hit the lats.

The kipping is more about hip snap and involving the whole body more. The kipping is more of a natural movement one would do if solely given the task of heres a bar do a pullup. And when most poeple max pullups the last couple look eeirly simlar to a kipping.

There is no right or wrong way to work out. It depends on the persons goals and what they take away from it.

Most poeple like crossfit becuase in 25 minutes they are sweating and feel exhausted. Not everybody wants to lift an hbour and a half and still get cario in at some point.

vkartikv · 07-24-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywood9826

Most body building guys are trying to isolate one muscle.

A Kipping pullup does not do that. When a bodybuilder does a pullup he does the dead hangs to hit the lats.

The kipping is more about hip snap and involving the whole body more. The kipping is more of a natural movement one would do if solely given the task of heres a bar do a pullup. And when most poeple max pullups the last couple look eeirly simlar to a kipping.

There is no right or wrong way to work out. It depends on the persons goals and what they take away from it.

Most poeple like crossfit becuase in 25 minutes they are sweating and feel exhausted. Not everybody wants to lift an hbour and a half and still get cario in at some point.

You don't have to lift for an hour and a half. And you surely don't need anything more than 20 mins of HIIT type cardio once or twice a week. Lifting with intensity itself gives the heart a good workout.

atatu · 07-24-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by r2473

this is a pretty evenhanded article on crossfit.

if your goals match with crossfit, it is very challenging and worthwhile.

i bet it would be great (off-season) training for tennis players......if they don't get hurt doing it

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...about_crossfit

Not getting hurt is the key. I did crossfit for awhile, but quit after I screwed up my wrist while trying to C &J 200 lbs. There is not reason that a guy in his late 40's who plays tennis needs to clean and jerk that weight.

vkartikv · 07-24-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by atatu

Not getting hurt is the key. I did crossfit for awhile, but quit after I screwed up my wrist while trying to C &J 200 lbs. There is not reason that a guy in his late 40's who plays tennis needs to clean and jerk that weight.

A guy does a lot of clean and jerk in his life as it is

Fee · 07-24-2012, 04:06 PM

I asked two trainers who work with pro players about CF. They absolutely do not recommend it during the season, and only recommend some of the CF exercises during the off season. Any good trainer can design a safe beneficial 30 minute cardio workout using sit ups, pull ups, push ups, squats, running, burpees, and some neutral weight lifting. But racing to do a certain number of exercises within a ten minute time frame for a personal record seems like a recipe for form breaks and injuries to me. I thought my one CF workout was okay, but the recovery time for me was over a week and that just got in the way of my normal daily life. I can see the appeal of it, it wasn't for me, and I would suggest anyone who tries it approaches it with caution. And be ready for the cult like attitude of most of the people in 'the box'.

shissncg · 07-25-2012, 09:00 AM

Most people stick with crossfit because they like the competitive aspect of the WODs and the community aspect of the boxes. Not everyone can push themselves, or train with intensity on their own. And the shared suffering builds camaraderie that you don't find in regular gyms. I personally have mixed feelings about the general crossfit programming, but this varies significantly by box and coach, for example, I don't agree with doing high rep olympic lifts as part of a wod. Like any other training regiment, it is not for everyone. If you like it great, do it, if not there are plenty of other excellent programs which work.

Kevin T · 07-25-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vkartikv

A guy does a lot of clean and jerk in his life as it is

Vkartikv, you probably have the funniest avatar on TW right now, maybe all-time.

hollywood9826 · 07-25-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin T

Vkartikv, you probably have the funniest avatar on TW right now, maybe all-time.

Even funnier than my old Bud Dwyer avatar right before he shot himself in the head on national TV?

Kevin T · 07-25-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hollywood9826

Even funnier than my old Bud Dwyer avatar right before he shot himself in the head on national TV?

I don't remember that but you make a good argument.

r2473 · 08-01-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by maverick66

They are scum bags at the top. Thats no secret around the fitness world.

Here is an interesting thread on some of this. Especially post #14

http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/sho...ossFit-Debacle

r2473 · 09-10-2012, 11:42 AM

Even Adolf hates crossfit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2b2...ature=youtu.be

hollywood9826 · 09-10-2012, 11:57 AM

Thank you for that.

I always loved those hitler parodies.

07-24-2012, 10:49 AM	#21
vkartikv Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Gym Posts: 3,277	'Kipping pullups' (where you use momentum to swing yourself up) are not pullups!!!! While I don't have anything against the crossfit culture, my 'traditional' bodybuilding friends from the gym absolutely loathe it and call it a joke. __________________ There was significant shrinkage

07-24-2012, 11:45 AM	#22
hollywood9826 Semi-Pro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Havre de Grace, MD Posts: 492	Most body building guys are trying to isolate one muscle. A Kipping pullup does not do that. When a bodybuilder does a pullup he does the dead hangs to hit the lats. The kipping is more about hip snap and involving the whole body more. The kipping is more of a natural movement one would do if solely given the task of heres a bar do a pullup. And when most poeple max pullups the last couple look eeirly simlar to a kipping. There is no right or wrong way to work out. It depends on the persons goals and what they take away from it. Most poeple like crossfit becuase in 25 minutes they are sweating and feel exhausted. Not everybody wants to lift an hbour and a half and still get cario in at some point. __________________ Touched by his Noodly Appendage

07-24-2012, 04:06 PM	#26
Fee Legend Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In front of my computer, obviously Posts: 7,304	I asked two trainers who work with pro players about CF. They absolutely do not recommend it during the season, and only recommend some of the CF exercises during the off season. Any good trainer can design a safe beneficial 30 minute cardio workout using sit ups, pull ups, push ups, squats, running, burpees, and some neutral weight lifting. But racing to do a certain number of exercises within a ten minute time frame for a personal record seems like a recipe for form breaks and injuries to me. I thought my one CF workout was okay, but the recovery time for me was over a week and that just got in the way of my normal daily life. I can see the appeal of it, it wasn't for me, and I would suggest anyone who tries it approaches it with caution. And be ready for the cult like attitude of most of the people in 'the box'. __________________ Pros should stop wasting money on coaches and doctors and just read the experts on this forum.

09-10-2012, 11:42 AM	#32
r2473 Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,349	Even Adolf hates crossfit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2b2...ature=youtu.be __________________ “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”

09-10-2012, 11:57 AM	#33
hollywood9826 Semi-Pro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Havre de Grace, MD Posts: 492	Thank you for that. I always loved those hitler parodies. __________________ Touched by his Noodly Appendage