Donald Budge

[kiki]

Originally Posted by Mustard

Kodes is from a totally different era to Vines and Budge.

The way he is treated over here, that wouldn´t make any difference.

But I fully agree with your opinion.

[treblings]

Originally Posted by kiki

Is it correct that Ellsworth Vines I had czech ancestors?

In that case, it is a tough competition between Lendl,Mandlikova and Vines for all time czech nº 2...

no.1 being Martina Navratilova?

[kiki]

Originally Posted by treblings

no.1 being Martina Navratilova?

well, they all chose another country, except Kodes.

I must say the smartest one is Mandlikova: she picked up Australia.The other 3...

[treblings]

Originally Posted by kiki

well, they all chose another country, except Kodes.

I must say the smartest one is Mandlikova: she picked up Australia.The other 3...

the story about vines czech ancestors is real? or was it meant as a joke?

i would have preferred australia myself

[kiki]

Originally Posted by treblings

the story about vines czech ancestors is real? or was it meant as a joke?

i would have preferred australia myself

My memory can be bad.When that funny story about Kodes and Vines started, I just happened to recall that in the 1981 US Open, Lendl defeated Vines ( should be his grandson, I think), who, at that time, was one of the best US juniors.I just read a big repport on Tennis Magazine concerning the 1981 Open and Lendl and focusing on his match against Vines.I think it mentioned something to the effect that also Vines ancestors came from then Czeckoslovakia, or something to that effect.

I maybe wrong.But it is curious that I had just that flash so many years later.Maybe guys like Krossero or Mustard can work it out.

[Mustard]

Ivan Lendl beat Mark Vines at the 1981 US Open. Was he any relation to Ellsworth?

[treblings]

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.vines/469/mb.ashx

looks like Vines ancestors were from the U.S. at least going back a few generations

[kiki]

Originally Posted by treblings

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.vines/469/mb.ashx

looks like Vines ancestors were from the U.S. at least going back a few generations

...maybe they tracked back to the Middle Ages.

[treblings]

Originally Posted by kiki

...maybe they tracked back to the Middle Ages.

sure, but for americans it´s unusual to know their great-grandfather

[kiki]

Originally Posted by treblings

sure, but for americans it´s unusual to know their great-grandfather

Great job looking back their ancestors.I understand that you mean since the US is a very young country, that is why they don´t know about great grandfathers, right?

[treblings]

Originally Posted by kiki

Great job looking back their ancestors.I understand that you mean since the US is a very young country, that is why they don´t know about great grandfathers, right?

that´s exactly what i meant, kiki.