The pro stock to end all pro stocks: The Fed racket - Page 3

FEDERERNADAL13 · 08-08-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RJYU

I can't be totally sure, but i'm not convinced that racquet made it through our office. That's not to say it isn't a stick like Roger's, just probably not one with his specific handle mold. We get the racquets from Wilson with no handle molded on them. After molding the handle, we add the butt cap, wrap the grip, and add any further weight necessary to get to his proper spec.

We would not have used a Wilson leather grip on that particular cosmetic, nor would we have released it from the office without additional weight added under the bumper.

Would a picture of the insides of the throat and a picture of inside the buttcap help?

RJYU · 08-08-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FEDERERNADAL13

Would a picture of the insides of the throat and a picture of inside the buttcap help?

I'm pretty certain that racquet didn't come through our office. For one thing, we use P1 leather grips for his racquets now. Haven't used Wilson leather grips since late 2009 or early 2010. Not because there is any advantage using the P1 grip over the Wilson other than the fact we have a lot more around, so its easier to find 12 at a time that are the exact same thickness.

Again, the racquet you have could be exactly the same as Roger's, but it hasn't been customized with Roger's handle or his specs.

jorel · 08-08-2012, 09:59 AM

doesnt Rogs racquet also have his sig on it?

RJYU · 08-08-2012, 09:59 AM

Also, it looks like the "China" sticker is still on the buttcap. The first thing we do after attaching the buttcap is take that sticker off. No chance that got out of the office with that thing still on.

FEDERERNADAL13 · 08-08-2012, 09:59 AM

I think it's a Roger mold with a Wilson handle, upon talking to my connection. Thanks for your Help Ron!

Do these photos help at all?

drakulie · 08-08-2012, 10:10 AM

^^Picture is kind of blurry, but doesn't look like P1 work inside that handle.

Ron, look forward to seeing you tomorrow, and meeting the guys.

FEDERERNADAL13 · 08-08-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by drakulie

^^Picture is kind of blurry, but doesn't look like P1 work inside that handle.

Ron, look forward to seeing you tomorrow, and meeting the guys.

The best I could do, just an Iphone pic.

You get to meet the guys? Nice work Drak!

dr325i · 08-08-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FEDERERNADAL13

Hey Ron! Would any pictures of parts of the racket help in figuring out if it's a fed frame? Anywhere in particular? I really want to be sure, because if it's not a real fed racket, my connection and I need to have a talk

Look at the bright side -- you just proved to yourself that you can play well with the Retail stick just by thinking it is Federer's racket... It is all in your head

Fed Kennedy · 08-08-2012, 01:00 PM

What is the flex rating of the fed frame?

ENJOY TENNIS · 08-08-2012, 01:08 PM

Ron, I do not know if You do not see my question about the handle, or You do not talk about because is secret..........

RJYU · 08-08-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ENJOY TENNIS

Ron, I do not know if You do not see my question about the handle, or You do not talk about because is secret..........

I saw it. Just chose not to answer it because I've stated in the past that we don't discuss any specifics about our customization procedures or materials.

ENJOY TENNIS · 08-08-2012, 02:13 PM

Thanks Ron

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Originally Posted by RJYU

I saw it. Just chose not to answer it because I've stated in the past that we don't discuss any specifics about our customization procedures or materials.

arche3 · 08-08-2012, 02:33 PM

There is a tiny black hole in the handle. Used to slow down time. That's why they can't tell you.

Bobby Jr · 08-08-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FEDERERNADAL13

I think it's a Roger mold with a Wilson handle, upon talking to my connection. Thanks for your Help Ron!

Do these photos help at all?

Of course it is likely to be a Roger mould - ALL of the retail racquets are. It's the internal composition which matters most in terms of differentiating between the retail and Federer exclusive frame.

I think, considering what Ron has said here compared to your original thoughts on the frame, you've likely been misled.

We know your frame is definitely not from P1, and I highly doubt any actual Federer frames would end up in the pro room. There is no reason for them to when Wilson could just as easily (and at a fraction of the cost if Federer's frames are as exotic as some believe) hand out retail frames and say the same thing... as has likely happened here. Your friend has probably been outed and his story about the frame has been adjusted accordingly to continue to make it look special.

Many people have claimed to have owned a Federer frame previously and the vast majority have shown to be incorrect as more details become available.

Bobby Jr · 08-08-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RJYU

I saw it. Just chose not to answer it because I've stated in the past that we don't discuss any specifics about our customization procedures or materials.

Ron, a question on general practice if you don't mind. I've always wondered if you conduct any kind of integrity tests on frames you receive? (seeing if have any odd vibrations etc). I mean, what a mission would it be to do all that work on a frame and then have the player discover it played noticeably differently because of a fabrication issue which happened long before you ever saw the frame. Or is a visual check good enough considering Roger's (and Novak's etc) frames come via to you a higher quality process than retail frames?

And near the end of a racquet's life-cycle (3 months for Roger?) do they need to be tested for consistency/flex?

I know from personal experience that a frame bought a year after one of the same model will feel a little sharper. The way the top guys play surely their frames change to a noticeable level over that 3 month period.

sixone90 · 08-08-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RJYU

I saw it. Just chose not to answer it because I've stated in the past that we don't discuss any specifics about our customization procedures or materials.

Hi Ron Yu! Ron Kohn says Hi! And asks whether you still take the average of 10 swingweights when calculating swingweight? :P

EDIT: Guess you gotta be named Ron to be a good stringer, eh?

Timbo's hopeless slice · 08-08-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dr325i

Look at the bright side -- you just proved to yourself that you can play well with the Retail stick just by thinking it is Federer's racket... It is all in your head

QFT

+ 10 complete idiots

SwankPeRFection · 08-09-2012, 06:23 AM

Wait, I'm lost.... Are you saying the ProStaff in the first pic is a Fed racquet? I don't think so... that looks like a Dimitrov one. I think your source was incorrect on that. The reason I say this is because the troat curvature is too small.

BreakPoint · 08-09-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection

Wait, I'm lost.... Are you saying the ProStaff in the first pic is a Fed racquet? I don't think so... that looks like a Dimitrov one. I think your source was incorrect on that. The reason I say this is because the troat curvature is too small.

Huh? Dimitrov uses a 93 sq. in. racquet. The racquet in the OP's pic is obviously not that large, so it's a 90 and not a 93:

West Coast Ace · 08-09-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smoledman

A 93 sq in would lead to fewer mishits, but less feel for his touch shots and slice.

Even for a Nadal Troll this is a moronic comment; go to a tennis shop - since we now ALL know you are an Armchair who doesn't play - and hold a 90 up to a 93 - the difference is tiny.

OP, thanks for the pics and insights! Your connections are the envy of all.

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