New Dunlop line??? - Page 3

freshhh · 08-09-2012, 12:43 PM

I don't mind the new rounded shape like Yonex (better sweetspot) if small head size but stiffness is now way too high for my linking :-/

It looks like all those brands don't care about feedbacks of players... Many of us are looking for flexible racquets, headlight, stable & medium powered.

They should release some low & medium powered player racquets with stiffness around 60-61 and add somekind of nano technology where it's needed to make it more stable (Becker/Völkl) and also something similar to the Head d30 technlogy that is nice.

Fuji · 08-09-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Automatix

You can buy the 300 Tour XL aka Melzer from a Holland based store.
Mold of the 300 Tour. Extended to 27,5 inches. Low stiffness (ca. 57RA).

Could you mail me on how to get one of these? That sounds like an ideal frame!

-Fuji

Torres · 08-09-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bartelby

The Dunlop Bio M3.0 Tennis Racket is designed for players with a medium swing speed, who are looking for a great balance of power and control. The fully re-engineered frame shape features a 15% rounder, more eliptical head shape than previous models, resulting in a larger sweet spot. The hybrid power properties of an oval in the head section combined with the stability and comfort of a box section in the shaft portion, help to provide more power than previous models still with added control. The M.30 Dunlop tennis racket also features Pocket Grommets and a more aerodynamic cross section in the racket hoop, decreasing the drag and ultimately allowing for a faster racket head speed.

TECHNOLOGIES:
MoS2 Grommets - Inspired by the wear resistant self lubricating properties of snake skin, MoS2 is a revolutionary new polymer featuring a microscopic lubricant. This increases grommet durability by 40% and reduces string friction by 27% , delivering more string movement for enhanced power & spin.
BioFibre - Stronger than steel and lighter than Carbon, Dunlop has extracted the stem fibres from plants and woven them into the shaft of the racket. On impact this natural fibrous structure actively filters shockwaves by 18% to provide a cleaner more solid hit.
AEROSKIN CX - Inspired by the textured skin of sharks and engineered in a wind tunnel, Aeroskin Cx smooth's turbulent air, reducing drag by up to 36% providing greater racket head speed.

I'm no fan of the increased oval heads. They're already far too oval.

As for the 'technologies', that's some serious marketing BS going on there.

Dunlop seem to be going downhill since Ashley took them over.

They should resurrect the Revelation Pro Tour, add some meaningful modern tech and be done with it.

srvnvly · 08-10-2012, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Automatix

Since so much is out I guess it's okay if I elabore a bit.

The new models are:
F 2.0 Tour
F 3.0 Tour
F 5.0 Tour

M 2.0
M 3.0
M 5.0
M 6.0

S 3.0 Lite
S 5.0 Lite
S 6.0 Lite
S 8.0 Lite

All of the above feature the new head shape HOWEVER there are also some models named similar but with an additional "Classic" word in their name and they feature the old head shape.

Any info on the strung swingweight? I'm especially interested in the F 3.0 Tour and F 5.0 Tour racquets. Tennis magazine listed the strung weight of the F 3.0 Tour at 11.5 oz.

freshhh · 08-10-2012, 05:29 AM

I see nothing wrong with brands inspired by nature and trying to replicate amazing properties. The names used can been seen as hommages & are more appealing than random codes... So yeah of course it's green marketing but there is also some serious research behind that.

Bartelby · 08-10-2012, 05:30 AM

The new hoop shape is rounder.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torres

I'm no fan of the increased oval heads. They're already far too oval.

As for the 'technologies', that's some serious marketing BS going on there.

Dunlop seem to be going downhill since Ashley took them over.

They should resurrect the Revelation Pro Tour, add some meaningful modern tech and be done with it.

Veninga · 08-10-2012, 05:37 AM

Guys,

can someone post a pic and tell me more specs?

Still 97 inch and 20mm beam? And 18*20?

And 310 gram unstrung (so increased with 5 grams)?

Looks like an max 200 G with a bit more controll?

Ciao, Arjan

Praetorian · 08-10-2012, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by freshhh

I don't mind the new rounded shape like Yonex (better sweetspot) if small head size but stiffness is now way too high for my linking :-/

It looks like all those brands don't care about feedbacks of players... Many of us are looking for flexible racquets, headlight, stable & medium powered.

They should release some low & medium powered player racquets with stiffness around 60-61 and add somekind of nano technology where it's needed to make it more stable (Becker/Völkl) and also something similar to the Head d30 technlogy that is nice.

Well sounds like you already have ample choices in (Becker/Völkl) and Head. Personally I like stiffer feeling rackets, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. However, I think it's silly to determine the playability of a racket just on specs (stiffness) alone, and that a player should really play with one to really judge it. For instance, my racket has been officially RDC at 74, yet doesn't feel nearly as stiff as a PDR (@70). But that's just me, and others may feel differently.

mlocke1322 · 08-10-2012, 07:22 AM

First off, I love my Bio Max200G racquets and ave a great relationship with my Dunlop rep. But I cracked up when I read the part about the self -lubricating grommets and how they are modeled after snake skin. Did anybody else equate that with Dunlop essentially saying they are selling snake oil?

RNBABOLAT · 08-16-2012, 05:11 AM

Also really interested in the specs of the new F300T

Automatix · 08-16-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mlocke1322

But I cracked up when I read the part about the self -lubricating grommets and how they are modeled after snake skin. Did anybody else equate that with Dunlop essentially saying they are selling snake oil?

As funny as it sounds MoS2 is Molybdenum disulfide which is used as a solid lubricant (due to its low friction).

Still I think it would be much better if Dunlop went with the tech explanation and not try to connect this feature to snakes.

acura9927 · 08-16-2012, 11:42 AM

Whats the word on the 200 Series? Rounder head or it is going to remain as oval?

yellowoctopus · 08-16-2012, 11:50 AM

This might be one of the new line of bags that accompany the racquets.

Automatix · 08-16-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by acura9927

Whats the word on the 200 Series? Rounder head or it is going to remain as oval?

Both. There are succesors in both lines (regular and classic).

Automatix · 08-16-2012, 12:13 PM

TW specs up...

Dunlop F3.0 Tour = 300 Tour
Head Size: 98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 11.5oz / 326.02g
Balance: 6 pts HL
Swingweight: 319
Stiffness: 64
Beam Width: 22mm / 22mm / 22.5mm /
Composition: Biofibre
Power Level: Low
Stroke Style: Full
Swing Speed: Fast
Racquet Colors: Black/ Red/ Silver
Grip Type: Dunlop Synthetic
String Pattern: 18 Mains / 20 Crosses

Dunlop M 3.0 = 300
Head Size: 98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 11oz / 311.84g
Balance: 2 pts HL
Swingweight: 318
Stiffness: 66
Beam Width: 22mm / 22mm / 22.5mm /
Composition: Biofibre
Power Level: Low-Medium
Stroke Style: Medium-Full
Swing Speed: Medium-Fast
Racquet Colors: Black/ White/ Red/ Silver
Grip Type: Dunlop Synthetic
String Pattern: 16 Mains / 19 Crosses

Dunlop S 3.0 Lite
Head Size: 98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 10oz / 283.5g
Balance: 2 pts HH
Swingweight: 300
Stiffness: 65
Beam Width: 22mm / 22mm / 22mm /
Composition: Biofibre
Power Level: Medium
Stroke Style: Medium
Swing Speed: Medium
Racquet Colors: White/ Red/ Black
Grip Type: Dunlop Synthetic
String Pattern: 16 Mains / 19 Crosses

RNBABOLAT · 08-16-2012, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Automatix

TW specs up...

Dunlop F3.0 Tour = 300 Tour
Head Size: 98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 11.5oz / 326.02g
Balance: 6 pts HL
Swingweight: 319
Stiffness: 64
Beam Width: 22mm / 22mm / 22.5mm /
Composition: Biofibre
Power Level: Low
Stroke Style: Full
Swing Speed: Fast
Racquet Colors: Black/ Red/ Silver
Grip Type: Dunlop Synthetic
String Pattern: 18 Mains / 20 Crosses

Dunlop M 3.0 = 300
Head Size: 98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 11oz / 311.84g
Balance: 2 pts HL
Swingweight: 318
Stiffness: 66
Beam Width: 22mm / 22mm / 22.5mm /
Composition: Biofibre
Power Level: Low-Medium
Stroke Style: Medium-Full
Swing Speed: Medium-Fast
Racquet Colors: Black/ White/ Red/ Silver
Grip Type: Dunlop Synthetic
String Pattern: 16 Mains / 19 Crosses

Dunlop S 3.0 Lite
Head Size: 98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 10oz / 283.5g
Balance: 2 pts HH
Swingweight: 300
Stiffness: 65
Beam Width: 22mm / 22mm / 22mm /
Composition: Biofibre
Power Level: Medium
Stroke Style: Medium
Swing Speed: Medium
Racquet Colors: White/ Red/ Black
Grip Type: Dunlop Synthetic
String Pattern: 16 Mains / 19 Crosses

This stinks if the new F 3.0T

have a thicker beam that's awful I hope you are wrong about the beam thickness because is the same of the 300 replacement

smirker · 08-22-2012, 01:12 AM

They should resurrect the Revelation Pro Tour, add some meaningful modern tech and be done with it.[/quote]

Agreed, the Revelation Tour Two I have is a lovely frame. Solid lump of graphite (12.5oz strung) 95" head but surprisingly large sweet spot.

DMacAttack · 08-28-2012, 07:13 AM

Does anyone know if Dunlop is changing their grip shape or adding a more pronounced butt cap with the new line?

Rafter4ever · 09-04-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Automatix

With all the variables it is impossible, at least for me, to say.

When I get the 3.0 I'll post about it.
My plans are to test drive the following:
M 2.0 (Bio 200 16x19)
M 3.0 (Bio 300)
F 3.0 Tour (Bio 300 Tour)
F 5.0 Tour (Bio 500 Tour)

I am assuming that the M 2.0 will be 95 sq. in with 18x20 model along with the 16x19?

Automatix · 09-04-2012, 12:18 PM

IIRC...
F2.0 = 200 18x20 (the standard 200)
M2.0 = 200 16x19 (the current 200 Lite)

08-09-2012, 12:43 PM	#41
freshhh New User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 59	I don't mind the new rounded shape like Yonex (better sweetspot) if small head size but stiffness is now way too high for my linking :-/ It looks like all those brands don't care about feedbacks of players... Many of us are looking for flexible racquets, headlight, stable & medium powered. They should release some low & medium powered player racquets with stiffness around 60-61 and add somekind of nano technology where it's needed to make it more stable (Becker/Völkl) and also something similar to the Head d30 technlogy that is nice. __________________ 2x Becker 11 MP SE + 3x MP + 1x Völkl PB 10 Mid 325 + 1x Head Pyramid Tour 630/280 *** Pacific PolyForce 17 1.24 + Signum Tornado 18 1.17

08-10-2012, 05:29 AM	#45
freshhh New User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 59	I see nothing wrong with brands inspired by nature and trying to replicate amazing properties. The names used can been seen as hommages & are more appealing than random codes... So yeah of course it's green marketing but there is also some serious research behind that. __________________ 2x Becker 11 MP SE + 3x MP + 1x Völkl PB 10 Mid 325 + 1x Head Pyramid Tour 630/280 *** Pacific PolyForce 17 1.24 + Signum Tornado 18 1.17

08-10-2012, 05:37 AM	#47
Veninga Rookie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Netherlands Posts: 276	F 300 T Guys, can someone post a pic and tell me more specs? Still 97 inch and 20mm beam? And 18*20? And 310 gram unstrung (so increased with 5 grams)? Looks like an max 200 G with a bit more controll? Ciao, Arjan

08-16-2012, 11:42 AM	#52
acura9927 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northern New Mexico/Seattle Posts: 330	Whats the word on the 200 Series? Rounder head or it is going to remain as oval? __________________ Dunlop Bio 200

08-16-2012, 11:50 AM	#53
yellowoctopus Professional Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the present Posts: 1,248	This might be one of the new line of bags that accompany the racquets. Last edited by yellowoctopus : 08-17-2012 at 03:52 AM.