Rumored NCAA Changes

[floridatennisdude]

Originally Posted by TW Staff

Read TW's own Andy Gerst's opinion on the proposed NCAA rule changes...

http://blog.tenniswarehouse.com/misc...ollege-tennis/

He had me until the PS

[DownTheLine]

Originally Posted by mikej

don't even think i could bring myself to follow college tennis anymore if that foolishness came into effect

two sets is not a tennis match

grinding, physical third sets are what it's all about

and you think cheating in college tennis is bad now? what about when half the matches at NCAAs are decided by a few points in a supertiebreak...god help us

Exactly what I think.

[aceprojesus]

Originally Posted by andfor

You have a severe reading comprehension problem. I did not say what you said. You need to slow down, re-read your post, then mine. If you can't do that I'll tell you my point is shortening matches allows the element of luck to increase. A shortened match format (no-ad) was tried back in the 80's at the D1 level. A couple of top D1 teams lost to teams attributed to no-ad, Lander def. Georgia. No-ad went away shortly thereafter.

Is that what you want? More luck as a factor to determine the winner?

Good players create their own luck.

[BirdieLane]

Great to see the forces aligned against this.

ITA and USTA announcing they are drafting a joint opposition position is awesome in addition to the overwhelming pressure from coaches, media, fans, players, and alumni. And I read somewhere the NCAA is already blinking and will have a meeting or call or something to discuss further.

Collette Lewis at zootennis.com is covering this and doing her darndest to make what impact she can so we can keep track of very latest over there.

I'll go out on a limb and say I think we're making progress in getting this reconsidered and at least keeping the third set for singles!

[andfor]

Originally Posted by aceprojesus

Good players create their own luck.

Have to agree with that attitude. I'm not going to get into it any further on how shorten match formats level the playing field for the less skilled and less fit. I think we agree there. However, the coaches and the ITA create the rules for college tennis, the NCAA controls the year end championships. The NCAA usually follows the ITA's direction. We'll see who prevails.

[BirdieLane]

Originally Posted by aceprojesus

Good players create their own luck.

Seriously? It's all a matter of degree's I guess. So you'd say same thing if grand slams were just a single 12 point tiebreak instead of best of 5?

The tremendous mental and physical combined requirements of high level tennis set our sport apart from every other. Top players are absolute warriors mentally and physically.

If you want to see lessor tests of heart, stamina, courage, and mental toughness, there are a lot of other sports to go watch.

[andfor]

Originally Posted by BirdieLane

Seriously? It's all a matter of degree's I guess. So you'd say same thing if grand slams were just a single 12 point tiebreak instead of best of 5?

The tremendous mental and physical combined requirements of high level tennis set our sport apart from every other. Top players are absolute warriors mentally and physically.

If you want to see lessor tests of heart, stamina, courage, and mental toughness, there are a lot of other sports to go watch.

Also have to agree here. A big server with little ground game has a big advantage in a TB. Put two of them in a 6 game pro set of doubles and that factor widens. The whole new rule ideas are just plain awful.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by andfor

Also have to agree here. A big server with little ground game has a big advantage in a TB. Put two of them in a 6 game pro set of doubles and that factor widens. The whole new rule ideas are just plain awful.

what is big serve in college ? 120 mph ? it will force players to develop a better return game

[BirdieLane]

Just put my name on this one:

http://www.change.org/petitions/ncaa...women-s-tennis

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by BirdieLane

Just put my name on this one:

http://www.change.org/petitions/ncaa...women-s-tennis

only has 816 so far. i signed in but we need like 2 million supporters to catch their attention

[BirdieLane]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

only has 816 so far. i signed in but we need like 2 million supporters to catch their attention

And now 1600 just a few hours later. It won't make 2M, but it's pretty hot for a niche issue like college tennis. It says they have a goal of 5K.

[andfor]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

what is big serve in college ? 120 mph ? it will force players to develop a better return game

OK Feddie.

[West Coast Ace]

What huge problem is this trying to fix?

Someone brought politics into it so... this seems like a typical 'Nanny State' move - by the 'you know which' team.

[Nostradamus]

I propose a compromise. Keep the singles as is with 3 sets but change the doubles to 6 games with tiebreaker at 6-6

[Darkhors]

Originally Posted by BirdieLane

Just put my name on this one:

http://www.change.org/petitions/ncaa...women-s-tennis

Just wanted to bump this so we can get to the goal of 5K. Make sure you sign and pass it along to others.

DH

[sbw2z]

Originally Posted by BirdieLane

ITA and USTA announcing they are drafting a joint opposition position

Funny. I wonder if the NCAA will respond with it's own letter in opposition to the USTA's changes to the junior schedule.

[Clemson_tennis]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

I propose a compromise. Keep the singles as is with 3 sets but change the doubles to 6 games with tiebreaker at 6-6

I don't mind that, the 3rd sets are the big deal here anyway. But that really devalues doubles even more

[andfor]

Originally Posted by sbw2z

Funny. I wonder if the NCAA will respond with it's own letter in opposition to the USTA's changes to the junior schedule.

Funny but that's about all. On some level it may appear that could happen. However the NCAA is not impacted by those jr. changes but the UStA and ITA are by the NCAA change.

In the end it would be seen as a tit for tat and dismissed as that window of opportunity to voice a valid opinion is closed given the current timing.

[bluetrain4]

I'm surprised the NCAA even cares. Unless there was a huge outcry among coaches and players to make these changes, I wouldn't expect the NCAA to even consider the issue of match format. Where did that come from? I guess that committee of busy bodies.

[Satsuma Illini]

I gathered together a lot of the articles and reports about the changes, as well as the NCAA report itself. There is also a link to the petition. They still haven't reached their goal so please go sign the petition if you want to stop the NCAA from making the changes.

Articles and Petition