4.5jumping to open in pursuit of 1glorious atp point - Page 24

maggmaster · 07-15-2012, 03:57 AM

Reo Asami did some stuff as a junior, looks like he won the Orange bowl in the 12s. That was a long time ago though...

Michelle1965 · 07-17-2012, 03:57 AM

Very late reply but since no similar I thought I would add my thought. I know nothing about turning pro except it takes lots of money and I have been to the US Open many times and have seen some doubles matches where the teams didn't seem better than 5.0. So doubles possible especially if you can help with expenses, maybe find a pro that would play with you. Singles no chance.

yonexpurestorm · 08-14-2012, 08:58 PM

looks like i will be getting a rematch against the 980ish atp guy i lost to around a month ago.
http://tennislink.usta.com/TOURNAMEN....aspx?T=121481
i am hoping to be able to get some vid of the match. i switched racquets recently and have been playing pretty solid. im hoping to bring my A game tomorrow and know i can pull out a win if i am firing on all cylinders.

on another note, if any of you remember the guy i lost to 0-6 0-6 earlier this summer, i had a chance to play someone that beat him in a tournament match. i played the guy last weekend in the hb open, i still lost, but was able to make it close losing 3-6 4-6. the score doesnt seem as close, but it was only a break per set that made the difference. im getting better everyday and am hoping tomorrow some of my hard work pays off.

Timbo's hopeless slice · 08-14-2012, 09:58 PM

Good luck Jamison!!!

If all else fails, one day you will be eligible for seniors tennis!

SLW · 08-16-2012, 06:01 AM

Looks like he beat you 6-2, 6-3, but that's not bad. I just looked at the guy's recent results and he's regularly winning tournaments and getting to the finals/semis/quarters of every event. Looks like you're coming along. Keep pushing.

darrinbaker00 · 08-16-2012, 12:16 PM

Jeff Tarango is seeded EIGHTH? I wish I were down there to watch that tournament.

rajah84 · 08-18-2012, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maggmaster

You won 4 games off of the 900th ranked player in the world? That is awesome.

Let me get this right, you're a 4.5 player and you won four games off of a guy ranked 900? Hmmm, very interesting

In this age of bs inspiration and hope, you, my friend are worthy.

Timbo's hopeless slice · 08-18-2012, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajah84

Let me get this right, you're a 4.5 player and you won four games off of a guy ranked 900? Hmmm, very interesting

In this age of bs inspiration and hope, you, my friend are worthy.

I don't think OP could be considered 4.5 anymore.

for those who have followed his progress, he has worked REALLY HARD and come a VERY long way...

mib · 08-18-2012, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbo's hopeless slice

I don't think OP could be considered 4.5 anymore.

for those who have followed his progress, he has worked REALLY HARD and come a VERY long way...

He is clearly way above 4.5 now. This truly shows that the difference between levels is not as great as people believe and can be overcome with commitment and effort. Very inspiring!

35ft6 · 08-18-2012, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle1965

Very late reply but since no similar I thought I would add my thought. I know nothing about turning pro except it takes lots of money and I have been to the US Open many times and have seen some doubles matches where the teams didn't seem better than 5.0.

They're way better than 5.0. Those guys would be feeding bagels to almost everybody at a So Cal Open tournament.

LeeD · 08-18-2012, 09:37 AM

Not everyone at every Q event is a 5.5 or better. Someone has to LOSE in the first round. Not all first round losers are 5.5's, or 6.0's, anyone can lose in the first round, but if you go to a few Q's, you will see some hard hitting 4.5's losing in the first rounds.

LeeD · 08-18-2012, 09:37 AM

Oh, those 4.5's can be rated 5.5 for sure, but they played like crap, so 4.5.

yonexpurestorm · 08-18-2012, 06:08 PM

i have worked very hard in the last year to improve my game. i would consider myself somewhere around a solid 5.0 now, but after 4.5 the ntrp rankings dont really apply anymore. what i have noticed is everyone has good strokes, serves and weapons they can attack with. what sets apart the people that are winning these tournaments compared to me is consistency, accuracy and defensive recovery. by consistency i dont mean pushing the ball. what i mean is when i was playing the 900ish guy i could rally and keep pace with him. my game was solid enough to bang cc's as hard and fast as him. the difference is that i would make the first error or give the first short sitter around 75% of the time. when it comes to accuracy i can hit near the lines pretty well. my main weapon is my ts fh that i can accurately hit, but against this guy he could smash and inside in fh dtl with amazing accuracy. many times he would nail a shot next to the line with pace and spin that i would not expect because i dont get to play players like this very much if at all. lastly, defensive recovery is awesome with these guys. normally i will hit a deep shot that i expect a winner or a short ball for winner, but the top players can extend and whip some pace on the ball back cc for a very nice recovery shot putting them back in a neutral position for the point.

ive realized it is hard for me to succeed in these tournaments because i dont get to practice against these type of players regularly. when i lost in the hb open the guy had a crazy serve. probably one of the fastest i have dealt with. i felt i adjusted well, but its hard to win when it is the first time your seeing something like this. this also happened with the guy i lost to in redondo beach. i am not used to seeing a shot with so much pace just dive in at the last second and kick up on me so hard. players like this take games to adjust to and by that time its too late. the match i lost in redondo i lost the first set 2-6 with a few breaks, but once i was in second i was feeling more comfortable and only lost 3-6 because i let him break me which was the difference. and that break game was at duece to add and back to duece at least 3 times. with every loss i am getting better and learn what i need to work on. i dont see me getting that point anytime soon, but i actually do feel it could be possible now. if i improve as much as i did this last year next year, i might have a shot at going deep in one of these pre-qualies. the only problem would be getting time off work for all the mid-week daytime matches.

MomentumGT · 08-19-2012, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajah84

Let me get this right, you're a 4.5 player and you won four games off of a guy ranked 900? Hmmm, very interesting

In this age of bs inspiration and hope, you, my friend are worthy.

I've seen Ventre play quite a few times and that guy is a stud. OP has to have made some serious improvements to his game to make it some what competitive. I congratulate you on your hard work, effort, and progress! Keep kickin' a55!

-Jon

rajah84 · 08-19-2012, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomentumGT

I've seen Ventre play quite a few times and that guy is a stud. OP has to have made some serious improvements to his game to make it some what competitive. I congratulate you on your hard work, effort, and progress! Keep kickin' a55!

-Jon

I was going over this thread and noticed my comment there and was thinking to myself how confusing the later part sounded. I was meant to emphasize that this guy IS an inspiration. So often we're told how anyone can do anything which most of us know is crap, but if you have some skill and a with a little determination and hard work, results like the ones this is guy is putting forth are possible.

Add me to the short list of people who think he can get an ATP point. If you keep improving and do all the things you have to do -and you know what they are- and get lucky with the draw, yes I think it's very possible.

Inner Game · 08-19-2012, 05:25 PM

If you really want a ATP point hire some Pro and be his doubles partner in some obscure event in Hungary...LOL

yonexpurestorm · 08-19-2012, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inner Game

If you really want a ATP point hire some Pro and be his doubles partner in some obscure event in Hungary...LOL

i think you have missed the point.

LeeD · 08-19-2012, 06:11 PM

I"m pretty sure OP knows the shortcuts, cheat tactics, and flim flam ways to win 3 rounds of a Q.
However, he wants to experience the journey as well as the destination, and playing it straight up is the full journey.

GRANITECHIEF · 08-20-2012, 11:38 AM

3 futures coming up in SoCal in Sept. Try to get into the quallies and let er rip.

TonLars · 08-20-2012, 01:31 PM

Looks like youre improving alot yonex! Im excited because tomorrow im getting another shot at my first atp point, and i think i have a darn good shot, so we'll see!

07-17-2012, 03:57 AM	#462
Michelle1965 New User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 43	Very late reply but since no similar I thought I would add my thought. I know nothing about turning pro except it takes lots of money and I have been to the US Open many times and have seen some doubles matches where the teams didn't seem better than 5.0. So doubles possible especially if you can help with expenses, maybe find a pro that would play with you. Singles no chance. __________________ 2010 BLX Tour 95

08-14-2012, 08:58 PM	#463
yonexpurestorm Rookie Join Date: May 2011 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 373	looks like i will be getting a rematch against the 980ish atp guy i lost to around a month ago. http://tennislink.usta.com/TOURNAMEN....aspx?T=121481 i am hoping to be able to get some vid of the match. i switched racquets recently and have been playing pretty solid. im hoping to bring my A game tomorrow and know i can pull out a win if i am firing on all cylinders. on another note, if any of you remember the guy i lost to 0-6 0-6 earlier this summer, i had a chance to play someone that beat him in a tournament match. i played the guy last weekend in the hb open, i still lost, but was able to make it close losing 3-6 4-6. the score doesnt seem as close, but it was only a break per set that made the difference. im getting better everyday and am hoping tomorrow some of my hard work pays off. __________________ pstgt, BHBR-17@56/54lb's

08-14-2012, 09:58 PM	#464
Timbo's hopeless slice Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,103	Good luck Jamison!!! If all else fails, one day you will be eligible for seniors tennis! __________________ 5.0 all courter. Betting the house on black 7 spades.. (Volkl X-7 310 WITH CYCLONE @ 55) "Tennis isn't easy" - Corners

08-18-2012, 06:08 PM	#473
yonexpurestorm Rookie Join Date: May 2011 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 373	i have worked very hard in the last year to improve my game. i would consider myself somewhere around a solid 5.0 now, but after 4.5 the ntrp rankings dont really apply anymore. what i have noticed is everyone has good strokes, serves and weapons they can attack with. what sets apart the people that are winning these tournaments compared to me is consistency, accuracy and defensive recovery. by consistency i dont mean pushing the ball. what i mean is when i was playing the 900ish guy i could rally and keep pace with him. my game was solid enough to bang cc's as hard and fast as him. the difference is that i would make the first error or give the first short sitter around 75% of the time. when it comes to accuracy i can hit near the lines pretty well. my main weapon is my ts fh that i can accurately hit, but against this guy he could smash and inside in fh dtl with amazing accuracy. many times he would nail a shot next to the line with pace and spin that i would not expect because i dont get to play players like this very much if at all. lastly, defensive recovery is awesome with these guys. normally i will hit a deep shot that i expect a winner or a short ball for winner, but the top players can extend and whip some pace on the ball back cc for a very nice recovery shot putting them back in a neutral position for the point. ive realized it is hard for me to succeed in these tournaments because i dont get to practice against these type of players regularly. when i lost in the hb open the guy had a crazy serve. probably one of the fastest i have dealt with. i felt i adjusted well, but its hard to win when it is the first time your seeing something like this. this also happened with the guy i lost to in redondo beach. i am not used to seeing a shot with so much pace just dive in at the last second and kick up on me so hard. players like this take games to adjust to and by that time its too late. the match i lost in redondo i lost the first set 2-6 with a few breaks, but once i was in second i was feeling more comfortable and only lost 3-6 because i let him break me which was the difference. and that break game was at duece to add and back to duece at least 3 times. with every loss i am getting better and learn what i need to work on. i dont see me getting that point anytime soon, but i actually do feel it could be possible now. if i improve as much as i did this last year next year, i might have a shot at going deep in one of these pre-qualies. the only problem would be getting time off work for all the mid-week daytime matches. __________________ pstgt, BHBR-17@56/54lb's

08-19-2012, 05:25 PM	#476
Inner Game Semi-Pro Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 408	If you really want a ATP point hire some Pro and be his doubles partner in some obscure event in Hungary...LOL Last edited by Inner Game : 08-19-2012 at 05:26 PM. Reason: typo