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Old 08-21-2012, 09:30 AM   #21
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I do suspect that it is related to the grip change and not caused by any nerve damage or ligament tear or stretch. Her hand & forearm muscle/ligaments are being used differently so fatigue and soreness is to be expected during this transition. As long as there is no localized areas or points of pain then all she may need is a little rest before getting back into it. She may benefit to doing some specific stretches or low weight exercises for her arm to help her cope better to the change. I suggest you discuss this problem with HW, I would expect that he has encountered this before and he should be able to some adjustment in her training to minimize the problem while still working on the grip change + he could suggest some helpful exercises.
iirc not only a grip change but an increase to 1500 forehands a day to adjust?! my arm is tender just thinking about it.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:51 AM   #22
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The reason i took her is because the chiropractor has helped me several times.I remember i could hardly walk and the chiropractor had me back running in less than a week.My main concern is that my daughter is only 10.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:54 AM   #23
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iirc not only a grip change but an increase to 1500 forehands a day to adjust?! my arm is tender just thinking about it.
I guess i did rush it a bit
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:46 AM   #24
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I guess i did rush it a bit
It's all a balancing act for those of us without a medical staff on team. If I ran to the doctor with every ache I'd have to move in. Kids are always mentioning something; blister, back, sore arm/shoulder, bruised toe and it can be tough to weed out what deserves md attention and what's simply part of playing. With all you've committed you're right in getting a quick set of opinions; hopefully nothing more than typical overuse soreness.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:29 PM   #25
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They are good for some things, but not everything. People who don't believe in wholistic approaches to medicine and pain management, and who think they know everything already, will generally hate chiropractors and everything they stand for. I would encourage you to not be so shallow.

At this point all professional sports (and teams), the US military, etc etc, employ the use of chiropractic care. Insurance companies (major and minor) offer chiropractic care benefits. And there is not doubt that chiropractic medicine is mainstream at this point. Any failure to acknowledge it at this point is strictly due to lack of knowledge.
the opposite actually. nothing chiros do constitutes evidence based medicine. its principles are rooted in vitalistic silliness and studies repeatedly show that chiro treatment success does not surpass placebo thresholds

insurance companies offer chiro because americans are by and large credulous fools, and there is a demand for the treatment. it is therefore good business sense 2 offer it, even tho it is a worthless option

if you are lucky, you will get basically an expensive massage. if you are unlucky, you could be severely injured. chiropractic holds significant injury risk because its practitioners are poorly trained compared to real medical professionals and deal with an incredibly sensitive area of the body. the injury rates that these con artists inflict on their patients is scary

any chiropractor who calls themselves a doctor should be shot. i would call them a disgrace to the medical fraternity but they are not even worthy of being designated as such. charlatans and snake oil salesmen to a man

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Old 08-21-2012, 02:12 PM   #26
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My son goes to a chiro once a week. But it is for physiotherapy (knee) only. The place is behind our home so it takes 2 minutes for my son to get there. I made it very clear that only the orthopedic surgeon-recommended treatment should be performed and there shall be no attempt to align and no jerky dangerous movements at all. The chiro was disappointed, but I said all he can do are those exercises, take it or leave it.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:29 PM   #27
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Real chiropractic is bunk. The best chiros are basically physiotherapists.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:54 PM   #28
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I swore my kids would never go to a chiropractor....

Anyway, I don't let the chiropractor ever work near their necks and also combine it with rest, ice, advil, and more rest.

Best solution is cutting back before you run into a overuse injury.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:13 PM   #29
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I have no problem taking my daughters to the Chiropractor or going myself. I am 39 and have been going to the Chiropractor all of my life and I am still standing. Their is nothing that can help me when I have a rib out of place like the Chiropractor. Also look up the "Posture Guy" on this Forum and he might be able to help.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:42 PM   #30
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I am a credulous sucker who enjoys putting my family's health at risk and lining the pockets of thieves and frauds
i think that is what u were tryin to say
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:44 PM   #31
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I'm a rheumatologist so I do have expertise in the musculoskeletal system. It sounds like an overuse injury (probably tendonitis). If the pain is radiating all the way up the arm then maybe you could consider a nerve problem but I would be more inclined to look for nerve inflammation at the wrist or elbow rather than from the spine in a child as young as your daughter. Can you reproduce pain by palpating the soft tissues and joints around the wrist and forearm? If so, this suggests a tendon or bony injury and I would apply ice, take some motrin (if she is not allergic to motrin) and rest the arm. If the pain persists then see a sports medicine specialist/pediatric orthopedic specialist for an evaluation. I hope she gets better soon. If you are ever in Boca look me up, I would love to see your daughter play. My two boys train at Macci's. Good luck.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:06 PM   #32
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i think that is what u were tryin to say
No that is not what I am saying. We got it you don't like them so just move on.
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A lot of hate for Chiropractic on here.

To me Chiropractic care is very simple and straight forward; if my body has a subluxation (partial dislocation) then I have my Chiropractor put it back in place. Follow it up with ice and rest and I am good to go. I could take anti-inflammatory and muscle relaxers (what my General Practitioner would probably prescribe) and have to rest longer, but I consider Chiropractic care the smarter choice for me.

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Old 08-21-2012, 07:11 PM   #34
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I wouldn't go to a chiro unless I was in a car accident and I wanted to inflate my bills to make it look more serious. Don't chiros have attorneys working in the next office? Split the insurance settlement 33.3/33.3/33.3 between lawyer, quack, and victim?

Sounds like a good place to get health care. Especially for a small child. They have small back crackers for them.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:37 PM   #35
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No that is not what I am saying. We got it you don't like them so just move on.
'don't like them' doesnt begin to cover it. that is like sayin i dont like paedophiles

generally i am not a fan of ppl who engage in child abuse. nor am i a fan of parents who are willingly complicit in the abuse of their own children

the fact they are shoddy con artists is just the icing on the cake
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:30 AM   #36
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A lot of hate for Chiropractic on here.

To me Chiropractic care is very simple and straight forward; if my body has a subluxation (partial dislocation) then I have my Chiropractor put it back in place. Follow it up with ice and rest and I am good to go. I could take anti-inflammatory and muscle relaxers (what my General Practitioner would probably prescribe) and have to rest longer, but I consider Chiropractic care the smarter choice for me.

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OP had pain in her finger and went to chiro and chiro recommended multiple visits per weak for a month RUNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told GA that it is her racquet and strings many years ago.

Chiros are good for cracking your back and adjustments. I can do that myself and to other players on the court. Saw the same coaches doing the same movements at the olympics and said to myself WOW I am doing this!!!!!! When you crack your back you release more oxygen into your blood and muscle it is like you shot yourself with adrenaline. You are tricking your body that it is injured and nature is correcting and trying to heal itself.
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OP had pain in her finger and went to chiro and chiro recommended multiple visits per weak for a month RUNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told GA that it is her racquet and strings many years ago.

Chiros are good for cracking your back and adjustments. I can do that myself and to other players on the court. Saw the same coaches doing the same movements at the olympics and said to myself WOW I am doing this!!!!!! When you crack your back you release more oxygen into your blood and muscle it is like you shot yourself with adrenaline. You are tricking your body that it is injured and nature is correcting and trying to heal itself.

The post you quoted is regarding my view of my own Chiropractic care in general. DO NOT crack someone else's back. You could seriously injure them as you do not know what you are doing.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:37 PM   #38
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I get chiropractic treatment at least once a month and before tournaments. Its best if you get a massage before to relax the muscles and then be adjusted in order to stay adjusted for a longer period of time. It helps a lot, IMO.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:54 PM   #39
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I likes me neck and back cracked.

My now 11 year old son has hip issues. Sport docs, hip specialists all prescribed physical therapy. It didnt work. Went to my chiro. He said the hips were just out of line. He made the adjustment. Pain was gone instantly and hips now felt right when he ran. The chiro office also did physical therapy to strengthen the muscles around the hips as well. We have gone back once every 2 month's approx and the hips have not bothered him since.
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:35 PM   #40
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I use them all: chiros, osteos, physios, and sports doctors.

I wouldn't use anyone but a specialist sports doctor for the initial diagnosis. It took me a lot of pain and mis diagnosis over the years to work this one out.

I then use any combination of the remainder as necessary for treatment. They all seem to have their focus, and each do a few things well. Sadly, they each seem to also have areas of "weakness".

I certainly wouldn't go to a Chiro for diagnosis of an injury - I say this based on my experience that the chiros ive been to relatively speaking don't seem to take as much "care" in their initial diagnosis as say a sports doctor does. They have also all been of the "you should stop playing/lifting weights/running" mindset - when clearly that isn't an option, and they dont seem that interested in improving muscular performance/issues (which seems a little short sighted).
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