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Old 08-23-2012, 12:56 PM   #21
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As others have mentioned, the school should have a compliance officer that would be in charge of clearing this situation in relation to NCAA rules. Seems weird that the AD would push the question back to the athlete, unless he was caught off guard, didn't understand the question, or was just being lazy.

On a personal note, when I was college, I was the #1 player on my NAIA team and had a small athletic scholarship (I think it was $1,500 per semester). I also had a part-time job working directly for the athletic department at $7 per hour, plus benefits. My job consisted of managing a team of student workers that performed game day operations for basketball and volleyball events. Outside of these events, I would also fill in for professors in teaching PE classes when needed, was an assistant director for the athletic camps in the summer, and other assignments as needed by the AD and coaching staff. It's the best/funnest job I ever had, and all of this work was legit.

However, what was odd was the Spring time, when the tennis season started in earnest. The assistant AD was the main person I reported to, and he was also the tennis coach. Once the dual matches got started, my athletic department job consisted mainly of stringing racquets for the team, driving us to matches, and practicing my serve!!! That's right, sometimes I would report for work, and my boss would say "I don't have anything for you to do, so please take this basket of balls and go hit serves for a couple hours!"

I can't believe I got paid for that, and I'm sure it was some sort of rule violation... but that was a long time ago ('91-'95), and it didn't seem like a big deal. (Besides, it's not like we ever contended for a national title. But my serve did get pretty solid!)
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:06 PM   #22
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I am thinking it is the latter. Tennis at RIT is kind of bottom rung, IN MY OPINION, since both of our men's and women's hockey teams are D1.

We do have a meeting like that, but it is a large group meeting with all of the RIT teams.

I read through the link that you posted and found this:
"You are not eligible in any sport if, after you become a student-athlete, you accept
any pay for promoting a commercial product or service or allow your name or picture
to be used for promoting a commercial product or service. [Bylaws 12.5.2.1 and
12.5.2.2]"

I probably do not understand it fully, but I believe that this rule is for service outside of the school. I think in my case here it is referring to running a stringing business out of my apartment, but as I said, I may not be understanding the rule fully.
Is the commercial product or service referring to your own, or to you endorsing someone else's product? What is promotion? An ad? Is working for yourself or anybody else a "promotion?"

If your AD asked you to find out for yourself, he is not being responsible. Maybe you should send an email to his boss and ask him if it isn't his job to help in this.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:30 PM   #23
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Is the commercial product or service referring to your own, or to you endorsing someone else's product? What is promotion? An ad? Is working for yourself or anybody else a "promotion?"

If your AD asked you to find out for yourself, he is not being responsible. Maybe you should send an email to his boss and ask him if it isn't his job to help in this.
Kenny, please don't send an email to the AD's boss..........who is probably the University President........about this.

I think you should talk to your coach, and if your coach doesn't want to use the budget to pay you, that you should drop the issue
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Please get a clear answer so you do not get caught up later on, had a young lady who was a professor assistant while playing tennis and got paid minimum wage, but had to repay all money as NCAA prohibits work during the school year, paraphrasing but other players might be able to answer, this may only pertain to scholarship players though.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:37 PM   #25
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Please get a clear answer so you do not get caught up later on, had a young lady who was a professor assistant while playing tennis and got paid minimum wage, but had to repay all money as NCAA prohibits work during the school year, paraphrasing but other players might be able to answer, this may only pertain to scholarship players though.
Your statement that the NCAA prohibits work during the school year is contrary to the provisions of the rules stated in this link. See section 4.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/AMA/complian...egulations.pdf

What is the source of your information?
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:33 PM   #26
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Your statement that the NCAA prohibits work during the school year is contrary to the provisions of the rules stated in this link. See section 4.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/AMA/complian...egulations.pdf

What is the source of your information?
It was probably pre-1997 when SAs were not allowed to work during the calendar year. There was an outcry that there would be less violations of cash handouts if kids were allowed to have jobs. Then the no-show jobs started and they closed that loop hole around 1999.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:51 PM   #27
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Is there a rule against athletes getting paid to string racquets? I plan on googling it later, but I was wondering if any of the experts here knew off the top of their heads.

Thanks guys.
I was paid $1K per string job when I was playing. Standard rate.
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:10 PM   #28
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Kentucky can pay one of their basketball players to blow up the basketballs for 100k per semester.
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Your statement that the NCAA prohibits work during the school year is contrary to the provisions of the rules stated in this link. See section 4.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/AMA/complian...egulations.pdf

What is the source of your information?
my own experience as a coach, but that was 10+ years ago so that is why it may have changed. Thanks for the update.
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Kentucky can pay one of their basketball players to blow up the basketballs for 100k per semester.
I thought it was per ball? Per semester is below their standards.
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:37 AM   #31
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Kenny022593, I have absolutely nothing to add to this, except that I graduated from RIT in '93 (Imaging Science) and played on the tennis team in '91 & '92. In fact, I grew up in Rochester (Chili, to be exact) & have family that still lives there (my in-laws live across from the school, just off River Road).

If you think tennis is bottom rung now, you should have seen it 20 years ago. We had to play some matches in a bubble right next to the old ice arena. It had lines for tennis, basketball, volleyball & a few other sports. The basketball hoops hung over the service line, so you had to slide a few feet right & left when serving or your toss would hit the rim. We used orange balls because the lighting was so bad, you couldn't see yellow ones.

Good times, good times...
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:23 AM   #32
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I also went to RIT yes I remember the old courts before they built the new ones over by U lot
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