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Old 08-26-2012, 05:29 AM   #41
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A lot of hate for Chiropractic on here.

To me Chiropractic care is very simple and straight forward; if my body has a subluxation (partial dislocation) then I have my Chiropractor put it back in place. Follow it up with ice and rest and I am good to go. I could take anti-inflammatory and muscle relaxers (what my General Practitioner would probably prescribe) and have to rest longer, but I consider Chiropractic care the smarter choice for me.

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One of my avid tennis playing buddies is a highly respected orthopedic surgeon in practice for many years. He is assoociated with one of the country's best hospitals and treats professional athletes. He questions chiropractic because the science is based on treating subluxations. He told me that he has done thousands of operations and never seen one.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:52 AM   #42
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I likes me neck and back cracked.

My now 11 year old son has hip issues. Sport docs, hip specialists all prescribed physical therapy. It didnt work. Went to my chiro. He said the hips were just out of line. He made the adjustment. Pain was gone instantly and hips now felt right when he ran. The chiro office also did physical therapy to strengthen the muscles around the hips as well. We have gone back once every 2 month's approx and the hips have not bothered him since.
this is a good approach .. most people who do strenuous sports activity will find that their body gets out of alignment .. when this happens ,it's followed by many different aches and pains ,it is usually caused by not having the right shoes or merely needing orthotics arch supports insoles... even then a good adjustment or periodic message will help .. you can check this yourself.. have your kid lay flat on their back and check the feet.. usually one foot is shorter than the other by almost an inch .. this will effect the athlete's body if you keep working hard.. we all need an adjustment every now and then or at least a good deep message..
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:56 AM   #43
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this is a good approach .. most people who do strenuous sports activity will find that their body gets out of alignment .. when this happens ,it's followed by many different aches and pains ,it is usually caused by not having the right shoes or merely needing orthotics arch supports insoles... even then a good adjustment or periodic message will help .. you can check this yourself.. have your kid lay flat on their back and check the feet.. usually one foot is shorter than the other by almost an inch .. this will effect the athlete's body if you keep working hard.. we all need an adjustment every now and then or at least a good deep message..
Agreed, I thought it was all garbage myself until I was 17. I had severe back pain on my lower right side so bad I could no longer serve. My mom convinced me to see her chiro and get adjusted, after one session I was back to normal. I've continued to use them whenever I felt like I needed it since that time which is nearly 20 years.

I more recently had an issue that was taken care of by a massage therapist where I was in severe pain. I thank her each time I see her for eliminating that pain and helping me get back to normal.

I guess all the famous athletes that use the chiro are crazy???

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Old 08-27-2012, 08:32 AM   #44
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Hi GAtennis....

How's your daughter's wrist doing? What did you end up doing?
Be careful with the amount of practice and competition a bit. I know of 5 girls age ~12-13 yr old that stopped playing tournaments for 8-12 months because of the wrist or shoulder issue. Theses are all nationally ranked, 4 or 5 stars kids practicing hard and playing tons of tournaments. Gotta give the growing body a break sometimes.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:13 AM   #45
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How's your daughter's wrist doing? What did you end up doing?
Be careful with the amount of practice and competition a bit. I know of 5 girls age ~12-13 yr old that stopped playing tournaments for 8-12 months because of the wrist or shoulder issue. Theses are all nationally ranked, 4 or 5 stars kids practicing hard and playing tons of tournaments. Gotta give the growing body a break sometimes.
Everything is good.She went to the chiropractor once and now she has no issues.I gave her 3 days off after her appointment. I am gonna start giving her more rest time.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:21 AM   #46
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Everything is good.She went to the chiropractor once and now she has no issues.I gave her 3 days off after her appointment. I am gonna start giving her more rest time.
Sounds great! Even a one day break a week from tennis, might help freshen her body and mind. I know you guys are aiming for a pro career. Got to be even more careful about injuries.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:24 AM   #47
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Sounds great! Even a one day break a week from tennis, might help freshen her body and mind. I know you guys are aiming for a pro career. Got to be even more careful about injuries.
I gave her this week off school so she could go train with H.W. for the week.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:30 AM   #48
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I gave her this week off school so she could go train with H.W. for the week.
I know you are preparing for the regional so she must be working on tennis more. Keep checking on the wrist though. Make sure it is good to go.
I am sure you are careful about her racquet and type of string she uses. One girl I know her wrist injury could have been from inappropiate types and tension of strings. Good Luck this weekend.

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Old 08-27-2012, 09:57 AM   #49
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I know you are preparing for the regional so she must be working on tennis more. Keep checking on the wrist though. Make sure it is good to go.
I am sure you are careful about her racquet and type of string she uses. One girl I know her wrist injury could have been from inappropiate types and tension of strings. Good Luck this weekend.
She uses the pure drive with 18g black code strung at 52lbs.
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She uses the pure drive with 18g black code strung at 52lbs.
That is a stiff racket with poly strings at a rather high tension. I'd give thought to changing this entire set-up at the first sign of ANY tenderness.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:56 AM   #51
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That right there may be the source or at least adding to the problem she is having. Does HW know she is using polyester strings. To much for a 10-11 yo to handle and not necessary especially now as she is going through a grip change. Consider this setup to soften things up a bit. Stay with the Black code (technifibre brand), 18G OK or can go with 17G, put them only on the mains. For the cross string consider using Technifibre X-One Phase (multifilament) 16G. String the mains 4-5lbs looser then the cross strings ex 50Lbs mains w/ co-poly, 55lbs cross w/ multifilament. If your daughter is playing at least 10-12 /wk then you will probably restring them every 2-3 weeks which is what you would need to do anyway if you are using only the polyester strings. This is done whether they break or not.
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Agreed, I thought it was all garbage myself until I was 17. I had severe back pain on my lower right side so bad I could no longer serve. My mom convinced me to see her chiro and get adjusted, after one session I was back to normal. I've continued to use them whenever I felt like I needed it since that time which is nearly 20 years.

I more recently had an issue that was taken care of by a massage therapist where I was in severe pain. I thank her each time I see her for eliminating that pain and helping me get back to normal.

I guess all the famous athletes that use the chiro are crazy???
I got my first adjustment by the athletic trainier in college.. we were training hard in the off season and it was raining most of the week and we all had to train inside the basketball gym,doing all kinds of drills with the b-ball team guys.. I felt a bit stiff and the head trainer(who was also the trainer for a pro football team)gave me a rum down and cracked my back... I was hooked ever since.. I will go see an asian chiro guy when my body acts up .. he's the greatest .. when my lower back gets whacked out ,he's my man .. one time I had a pinched nerve,making my left side numb.. I thought I was having a stroke ,he fixed it...
there are people here who rather just take prescribed medication to block the pain,but the problem is still there..that's just western medicine's way of thinking..
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That right there may be the source or at least adding to the problem she is having. Does HW know she is using polyester strings. To much for a 10-11 yo to handle and not necessary especially now as she is going through a grip change. Consider this setup to soften things up a bit. Stay with the Black code (technifibre brand), 18G OK or can go with 17G, put them only on the mains. For the cross string consider using Technifibre X-One Phase (multifilament) 16G. String the mains 4-5lbs looser then the cross strings ex 50Lbs mains w/ co-poly, 55lbs cross w/ multifilament. If your daughter is playing at least 10-12 /wk then you will probably restring them every 2-3 weeks which is what you would need to do anyway if you are using only the polyester strings. This is done whether they break or not.
That sounds like a sweet setup I'm gonna give it try after this weekends tournament. I restring her rackets every two weeks.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:47 PM   #54
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The chiropractic bashing is unreal, the chiro keeps many top players in shape and the help a lot, mostly when it comes to joint pain and your not prescribed medicine like an MD would
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The chiropractic bashing is unreal, the chiro keeps many top players in shape and the help a lot, mostly when it comes to joint pain and your not prescribed medicine like an MD would
That's physical therapy. Actual chiropractic is very, very different. You should read up on what chiropractic really is. The good sports "chiropractors" are really hybrids that practice little to no chiropractic.
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That's physical therapy. Actual chiropractic is very, very different. You should read up on what chiropractic really is. The good sports "chiropractors" are really hybrids that practice little to no chiropractic.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:14 AM   #57
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Strength training has helped my players the most in preventing injury. Tennis players all have out of balance bodies that will always be out of balance due to serving more than any other shot. Strength training will help balance the body and build the muscles and tendons. The key to staying fit for competitive play is to make sure you train in the gym within 24 hours of hard tennis play. Strenuous tennis will make your body pull toward those imbalances, and strength training within a day of hard play will make your muscles pull toward your last workout instead of the tennis. Just resting will pull your body toward your imbalance.
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I managed a multi-doc Chiropractic clinic. Then I became a business consultant to DCs. (Got out of that business for the same reason I stopped consulting directly to MDs. Doctors -- no matter which letters follow their name -- are CHEAP. I had more collection problems with doctors than any single category of client.)
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I think the multiple treatment "plans" should be a Yellow Flag for most people. (But sometimes even very active athletes have serious problems no previous doc discovered. Not ALL the multiple treatment plans are scams.)

Even getting regular Chiropractic care doesn't mean I don't sometimes need to be adjusted 2x in a week. (I didn't so much "dive" for one ball, as I stumbled and fell while going for it. Hey! I won the point...!) My DC enjoyed teasing me and collecting those adjustment fees...!

IMO, one of the best ways for athletes to stay fit and healthy is to receive regular adjustments. ("Regular," meaning what works for your body.)

When I was training and competing in karate tournaments I got adjusted *more* than weekly. Now that I'm "just" a tennis player, I get adjusted every 4-6 weeks.

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Strength training has helped my players the most in preventing injury. Tennis players all have out of balance bodies that will always be out of balance due to serving more than any other shot. Strength training will help balance the body and build the muscles and tendons. The key to staying fit for competitive play is to make sure you train in the gym within 24 hours of hard tennis play. Strenuous tennis will make your body pull toward those imbalances, and strength training within a day of hard play will make your muscles pull toward your last workout instead of the tennis. Just resting will pull your body toward your imbalance.
Thanks for posting.
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