Angell Sport!

[Dags]

The colours of the racquets look great. The bag... well, the bag looks very grey. I'd like to see the main part black with white writing (to match the frame), and then the pocket to be customisable as it is.

I have a Vantage 6-pack which has been great but is wearing out, and a 9-pack would be a nice replacement. But... grey?

Oh, and any thoughts of a demo scheme for us in the UK? I recall you briefly had one with Vantage.

[tailofdog]

Originally Posted by Tournament Player

My current racquet is the prince exo3 tour, no power, and it is so flexible that it actually hurts my arm, tried the bc20 and it was even worse, wondering if I should go with 63 or 70 since stringing would make it more flexible, there is a serious lack of pop from these fexible frames and when I'm in a match in the third set that extra pop seriously helps but it is by def not worth any arm or wrist pain, out of tennis for a week with a wrist pain from overly flexible frames

I had the 70 ra and it wrecked my arm. Hitting the sweetspot felt great but, the 63ra would have been better.

[Tournament Player]

I am patiently waiting for a review

[Roforot]

Originally Posted by Meaghan

Take their 95"...... It's available in 2 stiffnesses, 2 string patterns, 5 lengths, 13 weight balance options, 3 handle shapes. That's 780 different possible rackets. Without mentioning grip and bumper colours. Doesn't sound too limited to me!

Perhaps they could trim the length choices to three (27, 27.25, 27.5) and increase other options. Maybe they could also just go w/ their neutral "B" grip and then offer even more customizable choices in head size/string patterns.

Is their sales model based on the expectation that you buy a frame which will not require customization? If you have to add lead to the frame, then I'd question how "customized" the racquet is?

[realplayer]

Originally Posted by Meaghan

Take their 95"...... It's available in 2 stiffnesses, 2 string patterns, 5 lengths, 13 weight balance options, 3 handle shapes. That's 780 different possible rackets. Without mentioning grip and bumper colours. Doesn't sound too limited to me!

And not only that. If you have specific requests for swingweight, balance than they will take care of that so you can get it exactly as you like. You just have to ask.

[Tournament Player]

Honestly I don't know why people are complaining, there are more than enough customization options, I personally don't even buy it for that reason, just the racquet mold is perfect

[Meaghan]

Originally Posted by Roforot

Perhaps they could trim the length choices to three (27, 27.25, 27.5) and increase other options. Maybe they could also just go w/ their neutral "B" grip and then offer even more customizable choices in head size/string patterns.

Is their sales model based on the expectation that you buy a frame which will not require customization? If you have to add lead to the frame, then I'd question how "customized" the racquet is?

You are talking about the difference between trimming the hair pin and pallet and a completely different mold! We are not talking about Wilson or head here, I think there's enough custom options, remember pro stock tend to come in two flex options, the difference between 95 and 98 is negligible, Paul makes a quality frame that's up there with the best pro stock frames from head and Wilson, he gives you options, what you do is use them and then mod to suit your spec. Anyone can purchase grommets and pallets and redistribute the weight and length, like Bosworth, like pt57 or h19/22. If after all that you don't find what you're after then its easy, stop derailing this thread and go find something else.

[Roforot]

Originally Posted by Meaghan

You are talking about the difference between trimming the hair pin and pallet and a completely different mold! We are not talking about Wilson or head here, I think there's enough custom options, remember pro stock tend to come in two flex options, the difference between 95 and 98 is negligible, Paul makes a quality frame that's up there with the best pro stock frames from head and Wilson, he gives you options, what you do is use them and then mod to suit your spec. Anyone can purchase grommets and pallets and redistribute the weight and length, like Bosworth, like pt57 or h19/22. If after all that you don't find what you're after then its easy, stop derailing this thread and go find something else.

I don't think asking questions about Angel racquets counts as a sidetrack.

It sounds like the majority of what they customize are things that are reasonable to replace aftermarket like the handle or grip?

I'm also skeptical as to how many of their 13 weight options are feasible.
Did you have to add weight to your "customized" Angel frame?

I also don't think we agree on what "customization" means. It's like saying you can have a custom color but only if it's blue or red.

[Meaghan]

Originally Posted by Roforot

I don't think asking questions about Angel racquets counts as a sidetrack.

It sounds like the majority of what they customize are things that are reasonable to replace aftermarket like the handle or grip?

I'm also skeptical as to how many of their 13 weight options are feasible.
Did you have to add weight to your "customized" Angel frame?

I also don't think we agree on what "customization" means. It's like saying you can have a custom color but only if it's blue or red.

I agree we are deliberating over what we believe customisation means, Angell is what it is, it has options but not everything to meet all our needs, it can't do that but no one can. If you phone/email then the teccys can help with your tweeks. Personally I like to do that myself. Looking forward to hitting with them again.

[Vcore89]

Originally Posted by Vcore89

@racketdesign,

Any chance of an RA rating of 68 coming out to supplant the 70? 68 is essentially 65 when strung, right? Just the perfect amount of power and flex for the general public imo.

In any case, there's always the 63, which is essentially a 60 when strung for those who prefer lower.

Say, not in the works yet @racketdesign?

[classic tennis]

Originally Posted by Vcore89

Say, not in the works yet @racketdesign?

Man you must be some sort of racquet genius to be able to "feel" a one or two point RA difference, the volume manufacturers produce ex factory with a six point variation.

[Tournament Player]

Originally Posted by classic tennis

Man you must be some sort of racquet genius to be able to "feel" a one or two point RA difference, the volume manufacturers produce ex factory with a six point variation.

+1..........

[Vcore89]

Originally Posted by classic tennis

Man you must be some sort of racquet genius to be able to "feel" a one or two point RA difference, the volume manufacturers produce ex factory with a six point variation.

I trust Vantage/Angell has strict QA/QC, while I totally understand manufaturing tolerances...custom racquet is not something one can claims it to be when it isn't.

Anyways, owned and played (played with friends' frames too and they prove to be ever consistent) Vantage with RA 70 and 63, big difference. If they ever produce one in the 66-68 range I'm sure the difference is clear too.

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by Vcore89

I trust Vantage/Angell has strict QA/QC, while I totally understand manufaturing tolerances...custom racquet is not something one can claims it to be when it isn't.

Anyways, owned and played (played with friends' frames too and they prove to be ever consistent) Vantage with RA 70 and 63, big difference. If they ever produce one in the 66-68 range I'm sure the difference is clear too.

I'd bet you could not tell a two RA difference within the same racquet.

[Tournament Player]

Originally Posted by Vcore89

I trust Vantage/Angell has strict QA/QC, while I totally understand manufaturing tolerances...custom racquet is not something one can claims it to be when it isn't.

Anyways, owned and played (played with friends' frames too and they prove to be ever consistent) Vantage with RA 70 and 63, big difference. If they ever produce one in the 66-68 range I'm sure the difference is clear too.

look whatever your using, an angell racquet will be better, what stiffness are you looking for if you ordered one

[Vcore89]

Originally Posted by Tournament Player

look whatever your using, an angell racquet will be better, what stiffness are you looking for if you ordered one

Not ordering any for the meantime. Still got the 90 RA 63 and 70; 10.6, 11.4 & 11.7.

[Vcore89]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

I'd bet you could not tell a two RA difference within the same racquet.

I would say if I have 10 racquets of the same...I would be able to throw away the 2 out and it should be those 2.

[realplayer]

Originally Posted by Vcore89

I would say if I have 10 racquets of the same...I would be able to throw away the 2 out and it should be those 2.

Maybe you should measure the RA stiffness of your rackets then. I bet there is a difference in RA.

[Tournament Player]

omg someone put up a review soon lol, im dying

[scotus]

Originally Posted by Tournament Player

omg someone put up a review soon lol, im dying

Why, what makes you think these are any different than the old Vantage sticks?