Bud Collins and "the Grand Slam" - Page 29

Mustard · 06-08-2012, 07:59 PM

Jack Crawford's name would be much more known today had he beaten Fred Perry in that 1933 US Championships final. In the big picture, Crawford didn't just lose the match, he lost tennis immortality.

Tshooter · 06-08-2012, 09:27 PM

And no one will remember who I'll Have Another is by Tuesday.

Paul Murphy · 06-09-2012, 01:51 AM

He's right. The use of grand slam instead of major is wrong.
But it's everywhere now and some people I speak to understand majors only as "slams".

Tshooter · 06-10-2012, 12:39 AM

Of course he's right. He knows more about tennis than anyone alive. Except D. Dell knows where all the bones are buried. I'll give Dell that.

Dedans Penthouse · 09-04-2012, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Pike

Erm, i had problems with the mods because I criticised them. Had nothing to do with gays.

And I never made any prejudiced comments against homosexuals. As a matter of fact one of my favourite posters here claims to be gay (although I don't believe him considering the way he praises Steffi's perfect body and her perfect way to move on a tennis court).

Hi Joey, still banned, eh??

Well anyway, I'm bumping this thread so as to take you out for a walk, to get ya some fresh air so to speak. So, how are things in Doucheville? You still mutually 'trading-off' with that other douche Mother Marjorie?

Bye for now douchebag.

treblings · 09-04-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedans Penthouse

Hi Joey, still banned, eh??

Well anyway, I'm bumping this thread so as to take you out for a walk, to get ya some fresh air so to speak. So, how are things in Doucheville? You still mutually 'trading-off' with that other douche Mother Marjorie?

Bye for now douchebag.

you miss your old friend Joe, don´t you DP?
It´s o.k. to come out of the closet and admit it

urban · 09-04-2012, 10:49 AM

Speaking of "missing someone". I miss Tennis Old Man.

pc1 · 09-04-2012, 11:32 AM

Delete post.

treblings · 09-04-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by urban

Speaking of "missing someone". I miss Tennis Old Man.

well, the old man must have been before my time.
but i miss joe pike, he was an original and a nutcase

BobbyOne · 09-04-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by urban

Speaking of "missing someone". I miss Tennis Old Man.

Yes, I miss him too. Old Man could explain how he came to the 99:83 Laver/Rosewall balance.

Dan Lobb · 09-04-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustard

Jack Crawford's name would be much more known today had he beaten Fred Perry in that 1933 US Championships final. In the big picture, Crawford didn't just lose the match, he lost tennis immortality.

Crawford should have won. Crawford had some asthma trouble, but not serious. His friends secretly plyed him with alcoholic drinks during the 1933 US final, and by the end of the third set, Crawford was unwittingly drunk and could no longer play.

BTURNER · 09-04-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Pike

Erm, i had problems with the mods because I criticised them. Had nothing to do with gays.

And I never made any prejudiced comments against homosexuals. As a matter of fact one of my favourite posters here claims to be gay (although I don't believe him considering the way he praises Steffi's perfect body and her perfect way to move on a tennis court).

LOL, This is hilarious. I do wonder who he is talking about. Can't we all appreciate beautiful movement on a court , or a perfect tennis body/ build in any gender? or do bisexuals have twice the gift, than the rest of us ?

Dedans Penthouse · 09-04-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by treblings

you miss your old friend Joe, don´t you DP?
It´s o.k. to come out of the closet and admit it

Busted!

- you got me tremblings-lol ..... and sometimes my own douchebaggery gets the better of me as well.

kiki · 09-05-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustard

Jack Crawford's name would be much more known today had he beaten Fred Perry in that 1933 US Championships final. In the big picture, Crawford didn't just lose the match, he lost tennis immortality.

Wasn´t he known as "Gentleman Jack"?

kiki · 09-05-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

Crawford should have won. Crawford had some asthma trouble, but not serious. His friends secretly plyed him with alcoholic drinks during the 1933 US final, and by the end of the third set, Crawford
was unwittingly drunk and could no longer play.

Yeah, that´s always been the best method to beat an aussie

Dan Lobb · 09-05-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kiki

Yeah, that´s always been the best method to beat an aussie

In this case, Crawford was beaten by his own friends, who mistakenly thought they were doing him a favour.
Crawford refused to take prescription medications for his asthma. Even then, there was some thought that drugs would unfairly enhance performance.

Dan Lobb · 09-05-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

In this case, Crawford was beaten by his own friends, who mistakenly thought they were doing him a favour.
Crawford refused to take prescription medications for his asthma. Even then, there was some thought that drugs would unfairly enhance performance.

What a crazy way to lose the Grand Slam!

kiki · 09-05-2012, 10:05 PM

Gentleman jack or crazy jack?

Dan Lobb · 09-06-2012, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kiki

Gentleman jack or crazy jack?

Apparently, Crawford didn't realize he was being given booze in his drink. That's the story.

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