I love techno

[TennisLovaLova]

Originally Posted by El Diablo

techno = music that's had its soul removed.

You obviously dont know what you're talking about.
I have classic piano background and I can assure you that you can get the same thrill listening to techno or to mozart's introitus/kyrie.
Some might say you should take pills or lsd to feel the music but I disagree

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

Vinyl made dj's technically better
But the way to merge songs and actually pick them right, plus felling what the crowd wants is the secret of a good dj IMO.
I tried VDJ and Traktor after many years of MK2 and it is easier of course but it also has a lot of positive points.

To me the secret of a good DJ was both. That was the bar I am talking about. In all honesty, I have well built spotify playlists I have streamed in our venue that have everyone dancing and pulling out their Shazam apps. I don't consider myself a DJ at all, but I know I could easily be one if I wanted to.

[nalvarado]

Originally Posted by r2473

I love little baby ducks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_WAPkhQzUI

(and "music when it's good")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8yx4k4tzqE

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by Power Player

Speaking of decks..I do miss decks so much. It set a bar that is now gone. I help book DJs here sometimes and it is so annoying how these guys with zero skills come in and make diva demands and tell me they "know what they are doing" when they tell me how the house EQs should be set..lol. Hate hate hate those guys, and we have a ton of no talent Fullsail kids with laptops masquerading as DJs here right now.

Simple solution: if they suck, don't book them again.

I used to be anti the whole computer DJing thing but as the products have gone through a couple of generations I've come to really enjoy what Serato especially has to offer. People in a bar/club shouldn't be concerned over what method the DJ is using, only that it is well done and appropriate for the surroundings. The issue with young guys is often that they've had access to thousands of tracks (generally with little regard to audio quality also) so they have not developed the level of craft that a DJ who used to buy vinyl would have.. Vinyl was expensive so DJs generally had to be very frugal, ruthless in what they would buy - so the whole selection aspect of their music was generally much, more more fine-tuned. Vinyl taught DJs about scarcity of product, how to hustle a floor and finding a balance between fresh and familiar (all relative to the venue/scene mind you) which if very uncommon in DJs who have access to everything and had little time to learn about a *quality funnel* for their music. Their answer to tricky situations or warm-ups is simply playing hits - and there are so many you can do it all night... so the finesse of having a DJ get a night going appropriately, slowly getting people into the mood and complimenting or leading the changing vibe of the night is almost non-existent unless someone is particularly talented at DJing.

Digital DJing doesn't preclude any of this happening but it's just worth realising a big chunk of the learning path has changed because of it, not least also because it's rarer for young guys to be mentored in their DJing at clubs which used to be commonplace across the world.

[r2473]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

You obviously dont know what you're talking about.
I have classic piano background and I can assure you that you can get the same thrill listening to techno or to mozart's introitus/kyrie.
Some might say you should take pills or lsd to feel the music but I disagree

You can probably get the same thrill listening to a monkey take a sh!t, but I'm not sure what that proves (except that what gives this or that person a thrill is a personal thing).

Did Mozart take LSD? Ya know, I always suspected..............

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

But the way to merge songs and actually pick them right, plus felling what the crowd wants is the secret of a good dj IMO.

I'm not sold on this... From over 20 yrs experience I can tell you crowds do not know what they want, but they do know when they are enjoying it. They're not the same thing.

I liken good entertainment of most forms as being like when you get a great meal from an restaurant - they didn't ask you to tell them what should be in it (other than broad strokes), and you don't tell them how to make it, but somewhere in their magic skillset they come up with something you love, but didn't necessarily know you wanted. McDonald's might be plainly obvious what you're getting, but you will never get memorable food there. A good club night will be mystical and memorable and the road to that never relies on playing music everyone expects all night.

McDonald's is like pop music, nice restaurants are all the sub-genres of music. Everyone goes to McDonald's because sometimes it's just convenient - but it doesn't make it good food. They're just predictable and safe.

A DJ ideally should be the person with the knowledge and experience to shepherd the crowd, entertaining them with a selection which is fresh but not over their heads and familiar but not obvious. The balance is the key and where most DJs fall short - especially those with few hours playing in warm-up situations. Being able to see what is working is key - and not panicking and resorting to playing hits as soon as something doesn't work is an absolute must for any DJ to ever rise to being any better than some guy playing top 40 hits in a pub.

[jaggy]

I like some house and some jungle, old school 1991 ish fan here.

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Tom? Is he Todd's brother?

Nice catch, I was a little out of it yesterday and mis-typed. Yes, I meant Todd. His track Inspector Norse was played on Eric Prydz's radio show a few weeks back and it got me hooked. Love his sound.

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

Last year for NYE we had jamie jones, maceo plex and loco dice at pacha marrakech
great party

:O

Originally Posted by Power Player

To me the secret of a good DJ was both. That was the bar I am talking about. In all honesty, I have well built spotify playlists I have streamed in our venue that have everyone dancing and pulling out their Shazam apps. I don't consider myself a DJ at all, but I know I could easily be one if I wanted to.

Yeah DJ'ing is almost too easy these days. I don't DJ but one of my brother's friends brought Traktor and his decks over for a party a few months back and it took me literally 2 minutes to learn the whole thing and start mixing. The whole emphasis must be on track selection, I guess, which doesn't help when you have a bunch of kids who only want to hear bangers for 2 hours.

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by NickC

Nice catch, I was a little out of it yesterday and mis-typed. Yes, I meant Todd. His track Inspector Norse was played on Eric Prydz's radio show a few weeks back and it got me hooked. Love his sound.

Oh man, his edits are where it's at and what made him famous... Check out his remix of Andreas Vollenweider. It is the perfect summer/sunset/poolside vibes > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgdZJKfR6bY

[ramos77]

THIS is Techno...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPuA-Zun4rk

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by ramos77

THIS is Techno...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPuA-Zun4rk

Nice one... If you like the more synthy stuff like that definitely check out Technasia. Last album about 18 months ago called 'Central' is about as good as it gets in the more synthy style.

[TennisLovaLova]

Originally Posted by ramos77

THIS is Techno...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPuA-Zun4rk

Favorite garnier track is coloured city
The french produced some good tunes in the 90's and garnier was a precursor in france at rex club

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by ramos77

THIS is Techno...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPuA-Zun4rk

Pretty interesting.


Guys. Any suggestions for chillout / ambient stuff ?

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Sentinel

Pretty interesting.


Guys. Any suggestions for chillout / ambient stuff ?

Regarding Chillout, I'd suggest taking a listen to Moo, and his tracks Seashells and Sunset At Keywest. Really relaxing stuff.

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Simple solution: if they suck, don't book them again.

It's truly not always that simple.

[TennisLovaLova]

Originally Posted by Sentinel

Pretty interesting.


Guys. Any suggestions for chillout / ambient stuff ?

French dj popougnac released a nice compilation for the very hype hotel costes in paris. It's called "hotel costes" my favorite are the 1st and the 3rd
Very nice for a before party at home with friends as it is not sleepy and sometimes at the frontier of house music

You can of course also try ambient classics such as the orb (adventures beyond the ultraworld) and the klf
or aphex twin, amon tobin, dj river or even massive attack first 2 albums...
Very diffenrent atmospheres depending on what you want

IMO, the orb is awesome space music

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

Favorite garnier track is coloured city
The french produced some good tunes in the 90's and garnier was a precursor in france at rex club

Not "Crispy Bacon"? Man, that was massive when it came out.

[babolat4]

Avicii!!!!!!!!!!

[nalvarado]

Originally Posted by babolat4

Avicii!!!!!!!!!!

http://twitter.com/Zedd/status/183685628083437569


Zedd is a cool guy.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

Favorite garnier track is coloured city
The french produced some good tunes in the 90's and garnier was a precursor in france at rex club

I didn't like colored city at all, all that singing, nor the other ones on YT -- just my taste. Will try out the other ones suggested. Thx.