How Do You Know If Your Child Has "It"?

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by BMC9670

Top 10 ATP or a slum-lord. Awesome! The heck with college...

you get it .

[mikej]

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[mikej]

Originally Posted by ClarkC

Raonic won three matches in straight sets at Carson before losing in the quarterfinals (not the second round) to Klahn

this post rocked me to the core

i have been assuming all this time that brad never puts a spin on anything - clearly he would never intentionally cut raonic's wins in that tournament down to a third of the real number - that's not like him

[Freak4tennis]

Originally Posted by mikej

this post rocked me to the core

i have been assuming all this time that brad never puts a spin on anything - clearly he would never intentionally cut raonic's wins in that tournament down to a third of the real number - that's not like him

As accident scenes go this is a 5 car pile up.

[mikej]

in addition to being a great tennis coach, i think brad could be a fantastic tutor preparing future law students for the logic games section of the LSAT

they come and live with him for a day and every five statistics / results / etc he throws out trying to convince himself DB has a future in tennis - his pupil has to figure out which of the five statements is true

[coaching32yrs]

Let's get back to a real discussion.#1 Coach does has a valid point here. Once in high school the top juniors have to make either tennis or school the priority. Can't do both because the very top academic programs require too much studying. Same thing at the top tennis colleges- tennis is #1 school is secondary. In high school a lot of top juniors make academics priority #1- but tennis suffers. Been there done that. I favor the college route and believe it has value. But we have to recognize that at the top programs tennis is the kid's higher priority. The college player is not a "real" student. Even at Stanford they have a list of courses for athletes to take. What do you think Mike, you have seen both sides.

[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by TCF

How did her tournament go GA?

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[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by 10ismom

Don't forget your son too. You said "my kids"!

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[TCF]

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[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by TCF

Yeah, I imagine it is not easy playing a tournament just after she changed coaches and her forehand grip.

I love the idea of the matches vs college players. We are going the same route. I simply do not see any depth in the USTA girls, outside a handful of girls, the 12s-16s is just not enough competition for an elite player. I am shocked as to how mediocre even girls ranked in the teens are. So our future will be matches vs college players and local pros, and ITFs.

Great to hear about the soccer. Take the scenic route GA. My kid enjoys soccer and also likes shooting hoops. We have no interest in winning 90% in the 12s-16s, being the best 9 year old, being the next tennis prodigy on the Ellen show, etc. The idea is to build slowly, have a great and balanced childhood, and start to peak mentally, physically, and emotionally in the later teens.

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[mikej]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

Let's get back to a real discussion.#1 Coach does has a valid point here. Once in high school the top juniors have to make either tennis or school the priority. Can't do both because the very top academic programs require too much studying. Same thing at the top tennis colleges- tennis is #1 school is secondary. In high school a lot of top juniors make academics priority #1- but tennis suffers. Been there done that. I favor the college route and believe it has value. But we have to recognize that at the top programs tennis is the kid's higher priority. The college player is not a "real" student. Even at Stanford they have a list of courses for athletes to take. What do you think Mike, you have seen both sides.

Yes and no regarding having to make that choice at top college programs. For example, the guy I lived with for a few years that was top-half of Duke's lineup all four years was a math and econ double major, more impressive academically than 85% of our student body probably. And I know plenty of people on Duke's team have landed huge jobs at the top banking firms out of college - those recruiters definitely like college athletes that have shown they can balance all that stuff - Clayton at Stanford landed one of those jobs too, I believe.

But, certain majors are almost impossible while playing high level college sports, so that's definitely limiting. Chemistry - no way I see it being possible, I had labs all the time during the 12-5 window of the day when teams are out there practicing, and too hard to make that stuff up with missed days for travel even if the practice schedule happened to work out. Engineering similarly has too many big afternoon blocks of time outside the lecture hall.

So, choose the right major and you can still do a killer job with top level college tennis, I've seen it plenty - if anything your resume is greatly enhanced by being on a successful team as long as you don't let your GPA go to hell. But your major choices are pared down to the ones that don't have huge blocks of time required outside the lecture hall, for sure.

[Tennishacker]

Originally Posted by mikej

Yes and no regarding having to make that choice at top college programs. For example, the guy I lived with for a few years that was top-half of Duke's lineup all four years was a math and econ double major, more impressive academically than 85% of our student body probably. And I know plenty of people on Duke's team have landed huge jobs at the top banking firms out of college - those recruiters definitely like college athletes that have shown they can balance all that stuff - Clayton at Stanford landed one of those jobs too, I believe.

But, certain majors are almost impossible while playing high level college sports, so that's definitely limiting. Chemistry - no way I see it being possible, I had labs all the time during the 12-5 window of the day when teams are out there practicing, and too hard to make that stuff up with missed days for travel even if the practice schedule happened to work out. Engineering similarly has too many big afternoon blocks of time outside the lecture hall.

So, choose the right major and you can still do a killer job with top level college tennis, I've seen it plenty - if anything your resume is greatly enhanced by being on a successful team as long as you don't let your GPA go to hell. But your major choices are pared down to the ones that don't have huge blocks of time required outside the lecture hall, for sure.

Fantastic post!

Great info

[TCF]

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[treeman10]

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[Soianka]

Originally Posted by treeman10

Originally Posted by mikej
Yes and no regarding having to make that choice at top college programs. For example, the guy I lived with for a few years that was top-half of Duke's lineup all four years was a math and econ double major, more impressive academically than 85% of our student body probably. And I know plenty of people on Duke's team have landed huge jobs at the top banking firms out of college - those recruiters definitely like college athletes that have shown they can balance all that stuff - Clayton at Stanford landed one of those jobs too, I believe.

But, certain majors are almost impossible while playing high level college sports, so that's definitely limiting. Chemistry - no way I see it being possible, I had labs all the time during the 12-5 window of the day when teams are out there practicing, and too hard to make that stuff up with missed days for travel even if the practice schedule happened to work out. Engineering similarly has too many big afternoon blocks of time outside the lecture hall.

So, choose the right major and you can still do a killer job with top level college tennis, I've seen it plenty - if anything your resume is greatly enhanced by being on a successful team as long as you don't let your GPA go to hell. But your major choices are pared down to the ones that don't have huge blocks of time required outside the lecture hall, for sure.

My organic chemistry labs were from 6 pm to midnight, so I agree that it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to be a premed student while playing a sport at D1 school.

However, another option, which it seems Mallory Burdette was thinking about taking (before she decided to go pro just recently) is majoring in some other field and then going to a post bac premed program after college to take the premed sciences.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by treeman10

Spot on and the earlier player and parent accept this the better. We thought there would be support by teachers for athletes as the top schools. Nope, not the case. Miss a quiz cause you are traveling and enjoy that big fat zero. The lab classes are brutal and can't be sustained for 8 semesters which is required for some majors Mike mentions. The five day a week classes are tough during season. Plan accordingly. And don't send your kid to Stanford to play in the lineup while also expecting them to get their pre-med requirements done. Doing any major with tennis is hard enough, you end up giving about 30 hours a week to the sport that other kids use for study time. So pick a priority, or compromise = balanced student/person, not one in a sniper tower.

Sounds like child abuse !

[Number1Coach]

hey TCF what happen to the other thread ? who said what ?

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

you get it .

Oh, I get it. I also get sarcasm.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by BMC9670

Oh, I get it. I also get sarcasm.

Not trying to be "sarcastic" , sorry , I am just sick of everyone saying it is only this way "college" and if you choose another well ?

I have a player who wants to go pro he could go to college but right now he has his sights set on a goal not many would attempt .