2012 College Football

[BigServer1]

Originally Posted by Kevin T

Me too. I lived in Charleston, SC for a number of years and have always had a soft spot for Clemson and I really like their current coach. I would like to see them erase the last decade of ACC mediocrity, as I'm an ACC guy by geography and undergrad (Va Tech). I would also like to see Oregon do it because:

1. BigServer is my TW homie and deserves a national title
2. Anyone that beats USC is okay in my book and Oregon has been the Pac 12's best for a few years now
3. Can't stand Stoops and Oklahoma and really, really don't want them to break the stranglehold

However, r2 tells me that Iowa is right on the brink of greatness.

Thanks Kevin...I'd love to see Oregon win it as well, for obvious reasons.

I just have no idea what to think of our team right now. We haven't played anyone (effing Kansas State...), and we lost two of our best and most experienced players (Boyett and York) to injuries.

USC looks beatable, but they also might go on an EFF YOU! tear through the conference. They're definitely talented enough. Stanford all of a sudden looks terrifying, though we've had their number the last two years.

The Pac all of a sudden looks interesting...Arizona scores at will, UCLA looks legit, Oregon State plays very solid defense, and obviously the big three trio of Oregon, SC and Stanford make the top half of the conference very legit. We'll see who comes through.

In all seriousness, I don't see anyone beating Bama/LSU for the title. Bama specifically has made good teams look absolutely silly. I'm sick of the SEC domination, but there's not a question about who the best league is.

[mikeler]

Clemson is giving up way too many yards against the likes of Auburn who needed overtime to beat Louisiana-Monroe at home this weekend, Ball State and Furman. The Clemson D seems to tighten up once the opponent gets close to scoring though. Still, that is not good to give the opponents so much time with the ball. That does not give our offense enough time to score against the likes of FSU.

I think we will see a shootout like last year but unless Clemson wins the turnover battle by 2 or 3, the Clemson D just is not going to be up to the task this year. Our speed guys seem to torch FSU lately, so hopefully that is the case this year. I have to watch the game Saturday with 2 FSU alums, so hopefully they don't blow us out.

[Power Player]

The difference I see between FSU this year and last year is that our running game is FAR FAR better. It's like night and day, and our Oline is just far better as well. I think we will run it and set up the 20 yard passes. I know clemson was giving us that last year and we will take those all day with this fleet of WRs we have.

On defense so far I have been much more impressed with our DBs over last year. It is like losing Greg Reid is a good thing because now Darby gets to play and he is like glue on people. The clemson game is going to show a lot of things, but right now from what I have seen, I think we have a team that can compete for a NT as long as our QB just executes and makes the right decisions.

[fantom]

Originally Posted by Kevin T

Me too. I lived in Charleston, SC for a number of years and have always had a soft spot for Clemson and I really like their current coach. I would like to see them erase the last decade of ACC mediocrity, as I'm an ACC guy by geography and undergrad (Va Tech). I would also like to see Oregon do it because:

1. BigServer is my TW homie and deserves a national title
2. Anyone that beats USC is okay in my book and Oregon has been the Pac 12's best for a few years now
3. Can't stand Stoops and Oklahoma and really, really don't want them to break the stranglehold

However, r2 tells me that Iowa is right on the brink of greatness.

This just in.................WVU just scored on Clemson AGAIN!

[stringertom]

Twin 52-0 beatdowns of conference foes by 'Bama & FSU! I'm hoping both stay in the title hunt to the end. Jimbo knows a bit about SEC powerball and what it takes to stop it. Let's hope the horses he need stay healthy.

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by BigServer1

Thanks Kevin...I'd love to see Oregon win it as well, for obvious reasons.

I just have no idea what to think of our team right now. We haven't played anyone (effing Kansas State...), and we lost two of our best and most experienced players (Boyett and York) to injuries.

USC looks beatable, but they also might go on an EFF YOU! tear through the conference. They're definitely talented enough. Stanford all of a sudden looks terrifying, though we've had their number the last two years.

The Pac all of a sudden looks interesting...Arizona scores at will, UCLA looks legit, Oregon State plays very solid defense, and obviously the big three trio of Oregon, SC and Stanford make the top half of the conference very legit. We'll see who comes through.

In all seriousness, I don't see anyone beating Bama/LSU for the title. Bama specifically has made good teams look absolutely silly. I'm sick of the SEC domination, but there's not a question about who the best league is.

The cream of the Pac 12 looks really good...and then there is Colorado. Holy cow, are they terrible. When I was in high school, CU was top notch and the day after Thanksgiving game against Nebraska actually mattered. They got smoked by Fresno State and lost to Sacramento State?!

UCLA looks better than they have in many years. Offensive attack was a machine against Nebraska. It's only dreaming on my part but I would love to seem them beat USC.

The top SEC teams have rough games coming up. Georgia probably has the easiest path with only two top 10 opponents in the gamecocks and gators. SC has Georgia, LSU and Florida back to back to back and finishes with Clemson...Ouch. Bama and LSU play early November and might get another rematch for the title game.

As for my Cats, Barnhart is hearing whispers of Bobby Petrino at UK. Hey, we already sold our souls to the devil on Coach Cal, why not go 'all in'.

[BigServer1]

Originally Posted by Kevin T

The cream of the Pac 12 looks really good...and then there is Colorado. Holy cow, are they terrible. When I was in high school, CU was top notch and the day after Thanksgiving game against Nebraska actually mattered. They got smoked by Fresno State and lost to Sacramento State?!

UCLA looks better than they have in many years. Offensive attack was a machine against Nebraska. It's only dreaming on my part but I would love to seem them beat USC.

The top SEC teams have rough games coming up. Georgia probably has the easiest path with only two top 10 opponents in the gamecocks and gators. SC has Georgia, LSU and Florida back to back to back and finishes with Clemson...Ouch. Bama and LSU play early November and might get another rematch for the title game.

As for my Cats, Barnhart is hearing whispers of Bobby Petrino at UK. Hey, we already sold our souls to the devil on Coach Cal, why not go 'all in'.

Crazy to think that it's only been 10 years since Colorado was going to BCS games. They are a sorry excuse for a DI program. The rest of the Pac-12 at least has something redeeming about each team.

I have such a love/hate relationship with the SEC. I respect the football, but it gets old seeing them dominate. I think Alabama would hold their own against the Cleveland Browns right now, but they have a brutal schedule this year...We'll see if they can navigate it with only one loss (12-1 gets them or LSU into the title game imo).

Petrino at UK? Whoooo boy get ready for some scandals! Bobby P will find some co ed that he fancies and put her on his motorcycle. Where have I heard this story before...

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by BigServer1

Crazy to think that it's only been 10 years since Colorado was going to BCS games. They are a sorry excuse for a DI program. The rest of the Pac-12 at least has something redeeming about each team.

I have such a love/hate relationship with the SEC. I respect the football, but it gets old seeing them dominate. I think Alabama would hold their own against the Cleveland Browns right now, but they have a brutal schedule this year...We'll see if they can navigate it with only one loss (12-1 gets them or LSU into the title game imo).

Petrino at UK? Whoooo boy get ready for some scandals! Bobby P will find some co ed that he fancies and put her on his motorcycle. Where have I heard this story before...

Plenty of young bluegrass honeys will be lining up for that bike ride. UK needs a big name coach for recruiting. Basketball will always be king but you can't get dominated by Louisville in anything and lose to the likes of WKU and expect to be around very long.

I understand your love/hate with the SEC. It's like USA basketball in the Olympics for me. I know I'm supposed to cheer for them but wouldn't be devastated if they were upset.

[Fearsome Forehand]

I follow the Miami Hurricanes because I am an alumnus.
I'm in for a long year.

[soyizgood]

I kind of knew USC wasn't all that. They could still win their division, but I'm still not impressed with Barkley. Stanford and Oregon are the PAC-12's best hopes this year.

I just want to see a non-SEC team (excluding the Big-12) win the title.

[stringertom]

Saturday Night ABC national game at the Doak...this has to be the biggest spotlight for the Noles in a decade! Let's hope they can keep the mo going...I'm dreaming but it would be great if they can lower that atrocious 1.0 PPGA stat into a decimal (0.75)!

[jamesblakefan#1]

Another year, another early loss by the most overrated school in CFB, AKA Virginia Tech. Sorry, I just have to rub it in, their fans (most of them) act as if they're on the same level as Bama or LSU when Beamer hasn't won jack squat as far as national prominence is concerned.

Yeah they make it to BCS games every year but mostly bc the ACC has been a joke and a cakewalk (though FSU seems to be back). Losing to Pitt, the same Pitt that got romped by Youngstown St? soy loves to say LOL @ND, but in lieu of that since the Irish seem to be back, big time LOL @the Hokies.

And an additional LOL@ Lame Kiffin.

[norbac]

Originally Posted by soyizgood

I kind of knew USC wasn't all that. They could still win their division, but I'm still not impressed with Barkley. Stanford and Oregon are the PAC-12's best hopes this year.

I just want to see a non-SEC team (excluding the Big-12) win the title.

The Ducks are looking good. They get their first decent test against Zona this week.

Oh, and lol at USC.

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

Another year, another early loss by the most overrated school in CFB, AKA Virginia Tech. Sorry, I just have to rub it in, their fans (most of them) act as if they're on the same level as Bama or LSU when Beamer hasn't won jack squat as far as national prominence is concerned.

Yeah they make it to BCS games every year but mostly bc the ACC has been a joke and a cakewalk (though FSU seems to be back). Losing to Pitt, the same Pitt that got romped by Youngstown St? soy loves to say LOL @ND, but in lieu of that since the Irish seem to be back, big time LOL @the Hokies.

And an additional LOL@ Lame Kiffin.

Hokie hater JB back again. How is ODU doing in anything? Like I've said before, you don't know obnoxious fans until you've lived in Bama, South Carolina, Ohio and the fairest of fair weather fans, USC/SoCal. No one that has always followed the Hokies puts them in league with Bama, OSU, Oklahoma, etc. Maybe the new kids on the block but not the long-term fans. For a program that was basically born in the 90's and doesn't have decades of history like all the other major powers, I think they're doing quite well. Name a non-historical power that has won a championship in the last 20 years. And find me a team outside of the Florida schools with their very large population that puts together a team that is often 90%+ of state residents. Yeah, I know their record stinks against the top 25 but I think most any college fan would be happy with the following:


3rd longest bowl streak in history
post season every year since '93, behind only Florida and FSU in consecutive appearances
3rd best record in the last 10 years, behind only LSU and Boise St
8 conference championships
3-2 in ACC championship games
7 top 10 finishes since '93 and top 25 all but two years since '93
virtually devoid of major scandals and recruiting violations

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by Kevin T

Hokie hater JB back again. How is ODU doing in anything? Like I've said before, you don't know obnoxious fans until you've lived in Bama, South Carolina, Ohio and the fairest of fair weather fans, USC/SoCal. No one that has always followed the Hokies puts them in league with Bama, OSU, Oklahoma, etc. Maybe the new kids on the block but not the long-term fans. For a program that was basically born in the 90's and doesn't have decades of history like all the other major powers, I think they're doing quite well. Name a non-historical power that has won a championship in the last 20 years. And find me a team outside of the Florida schools with their very large population that puts together a team that is often 90%+ of state residents. Yeah, I know their record stinks against the top 25 but I think most any college fan would be happy with the following:


3rd longest bowl streak in history
post season every year since '93, behind only Florida and FSU in consecutive appearances
3rd best record in the last 10 years, behind only LSU and Boise St
8 conference championships
3-2 in ACC championship games
7 top 10 finishes since '93 and top 25 all but two years since '93
virtually devoid of major scandals and recruiting violations

ODU just put up 70 this weekend. So yeah, not that good...though I'm sure we'll get crushed when we move to CUSA next year. Unlike most Hokie fans, I'm realistic ab my team.

Beamer's built a good but not great program. Certainly not deserving of the national hype and high preseason rankings they get every year before inevitably losing to the first decent team they play. And it's not like VA is devoid of talent as far as recruiting.

You're the Atlanta Braves of CFB, only you've never even won the big one and only made it there once. So yeah, I'm sure most major programs would be ecstatic with that as their reputation.

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

ODU just put up 70 this weekend. So yeah, not that good...though I'm sure we'll get crushed when we move to CUSA next year. Unlike most Hokie fans, I'm realistic ab my team.

Beamer's built a good but not great program. Certainly not deserving of the national hype and high preseason rankings they get every year before inevitably losing to the first decent team they play. And it's not like VA is devoid of talent as far as recruiting.

You're the Atlanta Braves of CFB, only you've never even won the big one and only made it there once. So yeah, I'm sure most major programs would be ecstatic with that as their reputation.

Glad to see ODU can put 70 on the Campbell Fighting Camels. I think I had more students in my biochem class at Tech than Campbell has students. Tech was ranked #20 in the preseason coaches poll. Don't you think that's a pretty logical/certainly not overrated position for a team that finished top 15 the previous 8 or 9 seasons? I'll take an Atlanta Braves-type record for the moment. Better than being the Pittsburgh Pirates (virtually all of college football outside of the big guns). Like I said, look back through the last 20 champions/contenders and pull out the team without at least minor NCAA violations...even Boise St got a slap on the wrist. FSU and Clemson are just now getting back to prominence. Why haven't UNC, MD, UVA, etc., been able to compete? Oh yeah, I forgot, even 'holier than thou' UNC cheated their pants off to get good. They would kill to have Tech's record. Should everyone in the Big 10 except Ohio State and Michigan just quit? Everyone in the PAC 12 except Stanford, USC and Oregon go home? Why does mighty Texas only have 1 title in 30 years? Does Miami have a title that isn't caked with dirt?

[BigServer1]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

Another year, another early loss by the most overrated school in CFB, AKA Virginia Tech. Sorry, I just have to rub it in, their fans (most of them) act as if they're on the same level as Bama or LSU when Beamer hasn't won jack squat as far as national prominence is concerned.

Yeah they make it to BCS games every year but mostly bc the ACC has been a joke and a cakewalk (though FSU seems to be back). Losing to Pitt, the same Pitt that got romped by Youngstown St? soy loves to say LOL @ND, but in lieu of that since the Irish seem to be back, big time LOL @the Hokies.

And an additional LOL@ Lame Kiffin.

Notre Dame and Michigan beg to differ.

[jamesblakefan#1]

You're comparing yourself to MD, UNC, and UVA in football? LOL at that, come on we all know those programs stink at football. Tech should dominate the ACC with how FSU and Miami have been down the past few years.

Even as weak as the ACC is Tech can't even manage to get through it unbeaten and get to a NC game at all?

Oh and no one cares about not having violations. You think Auburn feels guilty about their NC even though we all know they paid Cam? In the end, 99% of programs have some dirt on them, its just about hiding it. Tech just so happens to do a good job of hiding it and doesn't win enough to make the NCAA want to investigate.

Notice I said most Tech fans have that superiority complex, not all. I've lived in VA all of my live and have had to deal w/ the bandwagoning of VT since the Vick era. So excuse me if I feel a bit of glee whenever Tech gets embarrassed in football.

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

You're comparing yourself to MD, UNC, and UVA in football? LOL at that, come on we all know those programs stink at football. Tech should dominate the ACC with how FSU and Miami have been down the past few years.

Even as weak as the ACC is Tech can't even manage to get through it unbeaten and get to a NC game at all?

Oh and no one cares about not having violations. You think Auburn feels guilty about their NC even though we all know they paid Cam? In the end, 99% of programs have some dirt on them, its just about hiding it. Tech just so happens to do a good job of hiding it and doesn't win enough to make the NCAA want to investigate.

Notice I said most Tech fans have that superiority complex, not all. I've lived in VA all of my live and have had to deal w/ the bandwagoning of VT since the Vick era. So excuse me if I feel a bit of glee whenever Tech gets embarrassed in football.

I'm comparing them to their conference and the question is why do the other ACC teams stink? We all know the SEC/Pac 12/Big 12 are better conferences. Va Tech has dominated Miami lately, violation years included.

I care about violations. I know most fans are mouth-breathers that never even attended 'their' school, let alone played for said school. I have a personal connection and I want them to stay clean as possible. Did UCF win enough to make the NCAA notice? How about East Carolina? Indiana? Baylor? Cal? Cincinnati? Louisiana-Lafayette? I'm glad VaTech isn't winning games to the tune of these guys...we'd really be in trouble.

I lived in VA until the age of 22. My family is still there, in Roanoke, Bburg, Va Beach, Cville. All states bandwagon behind their state schools. Like I said, go to South Carolina and listen to them whine and moan 12 months per year about the Gamecocks and Tigers. WVA loves them some Mountaineers. GA Bulldog fans (right behind LSU) might be the worst in college football.

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by BigServer1

Notre Dame and Michigan beg to differ.

I'll add the Georgia Bulldogs to the list. They were 'supposed' to win the SEC east the last 10 years (and have won 4 or 5) but haven't been able to break through against the big dogs . Certainly not on the scale of Notre Dame or Michigan but their fans are foaming at the mouth.