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Old 09-20-2012, 10:02 AM   #101
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Fair enough. I agree it sounds like their new mapping app will take some time to iron out the bugs. The lack of Flash support bugs me too especially on the Mac. Give me the user the option of running Flash and running my battery down if I so desire. Heck, even warn me before I run Flash.

As for cost, it is supply and demand of course but it seems like most of my friends that have been long time Mac users have their computers for a decade or more. If it costs double but lasts twice as long, then the price/year is the same.
Agree with everything you've said here...

I'm sure if Android makers could demand the premium that Apple does, they would.

No doubt...

Again, I don't want to seem like I'm hating on Apple. They're in a very enviable position right now the way Microsoft was before it and IBM before Microsoft. Thats just the way the business cycle runs. But apart of that cycle is people starting to turn against or at least highlight the short comings of the current champ; even former devotees such as myself...

And regarding the Mac computer; its been true in my case. I had a Mac mini since they first came out with Intel chips (06 or 05 i think). My original is still going strong and is more than useable today. I updated to the newest version about 2 weeks ago; because I found a very good deal on one (on Amazon, of course Apple refuses to discount their products much directly) and wanted a dedicated graphics card and the improved chip set. Everything is working very well, as i expect. Since my first mac mini at least 3 pcs have cycled through my home or others that I got a computer for them. Macs do last longer (in my case). I thinks its more of a software thing than a hardware thing...
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:09 AM   #102
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Agree with everything you've said here...

I'm sure if Android makers could demand the premium that Apple does, they would.

No doubt...

Again, I don't want to seem like I'm hating on Apple. They're in a very enviable position right now the way Microsoft was before it and IBM before Microsoft. Thats just the way the business cycle runs. But apart of that cycle is people starting to turn against or at least highlight the short comings of the current champ; even former devotees such as myself...

And regarding the Mac computer; its been true in my case. I had a Mac mini since they first came out with Intel chips (06 or 05 i think). My original is still going strong and is more than useable today. I updated to the newest version about 2 weeks ago; because I found a very good deal on one (on Amazon, of course Apple refuses to discount their products much directly) and wanted a dedicated graphics card and the improved chip set. Everything is working very well, as i expect. Since my first mac mini at least 3 pcs have cycled through my home or others that I got a computer for them. Macs do last longer (in my case). I thinks its more of a software thing than a hardware thing...

Interesting, thanks for sharing your experiences with the Mac. One thing I realize with the Mac versus PC is that Mac products just don't seem to annoy me. Windows is always popping crap up bugging me about stuff. Stop it Bill!
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:13 AM   #104
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I used to work with a guy like you but he was gaga over Windows products (including the phone). He had an almost irrational anger towards Apple. What's great is that Apple came out with the iPhone and the other phone makers had to play catch up. In some cases, Androids have features that don't make it to the iPhone for years. Competition is good for us no matter what we like to use. If you don't like Apple and think it is too expensive, then there are other options out there for you but I don't see the need to denigrate others who do like Apple products.
know party loyalists who think like that. forget trying to have a rational conversation or discussion with them. they take it so personal.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:15 AM   #105
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You have comprehension problem. I have never owned an Iphone. All I have owned is Droid. I will not get my Iphone until October 5th. How can I be a fanboy? If anything, I am extremely well versed in Droid and sharing my experience. You keep telling me about Droid like I don't understand. I do understand. That is why I am getting an iphone now.

HTML5 has made life without flash rather insignificant for me.

For review you called us Fanboys, sheep and slaves now.
I never called you that! I said I refuse to be any of those...

and please don't try to act as if HTML 5 is widely adopted now, it will be mostly due to Apple's clout (some would say bullying), but not yet. So how long did you just put up with your Ipad not supporting flash, yet didn't seem to have a problem with it? Some would call that fanboyism: over looking obvious flaws or deficiencies because of unconditional love...

Also, you seem to be well versed in a very outdated phone (the original Evo), and you were comparing it directly to the Ipad2 and what you expect your new Iphone will be. I'm sure your new phone will be much better than your current very old (by cell phone standards) phone, but that’s to be expected. As, I've shown the new Iphone 5 is just now caught up to upper end Android phones that have been out for nearly a year or longer...
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:17 AM   #106
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I think far more people would own apple products if they were cheaper. But then they wouldnt be as good.

PCs are cheaper. You need to know your stuff to have one running in prime shape. I built my last quadcore PC. It was not too hard for me, but the average joe would not want to do this. It saved me $800.

I definitely think Mac software is better. It optimizes hardware better and is more secure due to being a self contained ecosystem.

I feel the same way about iphones. the top 3 phones are the HTC Evo, Samsung SIII and Iphone 5. they all have similar guts..16 gigs of space, 1 gig of RAM..etc. But the iphone OS is the most mature and smoothest still. the question is if you want to pay for that..I didnt at first, but now I definitely do.

DRII - I have owned the brand new LTE EVO for 3 months now. Prior to that I owned the orginal EVO.

Once again, I am switching from a brand new EVO LTE which was released in June to the Iphone 5. And I cant freaking wait.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:28 AM   #107
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Here is another good comparison chart between the top phones today:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/...spec-showdown/

One thing to keep in mind about the iPhone 5 is that it does NOT support simultaneous voice and data on LTE networks, i.e. Verizon and Sprint. Otherwise the phones are fairly similar from a technical standpoint. A little bigger screen on the Samsung...iOS vs. Android...

I want to take a good look at the Nokia Lumia when it comes out. Also, they are going to release the S4 next March if you can hold out.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:31 AM   #108
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Interesting, thanks for sharing your experiences with the Mac. One thing I realize with the Mac versus PC is that Mac products just don't seem to annoy me. Windows is always popping crap up bugging me about stuff. Stop it Bill!
Yep...

my Windows partition on my Mini is constantly updating with various Windows software

It seems like half my allotted space for Windows is already full, and I only use it for games for the most part and only downlaoded one so far...
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:35 AM   #109
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Amazing how many people get so wired up about phones. Just buy what you feel suits your needs the best......... And then join the rest of us iPhone users.

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I think far more people would own apple products if they were cheaper. But then they wouldnt be as good.

PCs are cheaper. You need to know your stuff to have one running in prime shape. I built my last quadcore PC. It was not too hard for me, but the average joe would not want to do this. It saved me $800.

I definitely think Mac software is better. It optimizes hardware better and is more secure due to being a self contained ecosystem.

I feel the same way about iphones. the top 3 phones are the HTC Evo, Samsung SIII and Iphone 5. they all have similar guts..16 gigs of space, 1 gig of RAM..etc. But the iphone OS is the most mature and smoothest still. the question is if you want to pay for that..I didnt at first, but now I definitely do.

DRII - I have owned the brand new LTE EVO for 3 months now. Prior to that I owned the orginal EVO.

Once again, I am switching from a brand new EVO LTE which was released in June to the Iphone 5. And I cant freaking wait.


The EVO line from HTC lost its luster a long time ago. Once, it was the best Android but now is not even close... The HTC One or its predecessor (Rezound) are far better examples of Android phones from HTC vs the new Evo. HTC itself is lagging now, a while ago it was the top Android maker but not anymore.
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BTW, good luck with your Iphone Power Player.

I hope you enjoy it alot...

No sarcasm intended whatsoever!
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know party loyalists who think like that. forget trying to have a rational conversation or discussion with them. they take it so personal.
Don't diss on Bartelby like that.

Here is an article discussing the poor state of Apples new Maps application:

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/...orld-knows-it/
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My iPhone is a Paint Job of a Blackberry 7100t.
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ooooh..
another iphone vs droid talk
me likey!
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Here is another good comparison chart between the top phones today:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/...spec-showdown/

One thing to keep in mind about the iPhone 5 is that it does NOT support simultaneous voice and data on LTE networks, i.e. Verizon and Sprint. Otherwise the phones are fairly similar from a technical standpoint. A little bigger screen on the Samsung...iOS vs. Android...

I want to take a good look at the Nokia Lumia when it comes out. Also, they are going to release the S4 next March if you can hold out.
Verizon should be deploying voice over LTE soon (12/12-1/13) which will allow simultaneous voice and data on iP5. This was a drawback when I was choosing my new network, but I wanted the data and voice coverage that Verizon offers. Hopefully VoLTE deploys soon and it's a non-issue.
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I went verizon because the network is so much stronger in my area. Its another reason I had to leave sprint. If LTE will allow simultaneous data and talk, that is awesome. I did know about that issue, but I thought about it, and I rarely needed both.

Honestly, the EVO LTE and the HTC One X are the exact same phone, just on different networks. The HTC One X Is currently HTC's flagship phone, but the fact that we are having to debate this is yet another reason why I prefer the simplicity of the iPhone.

Love the PJ poast by JD..actually make sense to me. Blackberries were the goat for so long.I really loved those phones. And it is just like JD stated before, what killed the BB was the OS of the Iphone. BB apps are very bad, and they are just too behind the times now.
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Verizon should be deploying voice over LTE soon (12/12-1/13) which will allow simultaneous voice and data on iP5. This was a drawback when I was choosing my new network, but I wanted the data and voice coverage that Verizon offers. Hopefully VoLTE deploys soon and it's a non-issue.
It's not a Verizon issue, it's an iPhone 5 issue. You can use voice and data simultaneously on LTE using a Samsung (and others) device.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6295/w...-svdo-support-
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I'm sorry but iOS 6 kinda sucks... at least on a 4S
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Have you updated then? I have a question, are the timestamps for text messages still set at those random intervals?
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