US Juniors needs MORE Nat'l and advanced experiences not less

[Alohajrtennis]

Originally Posted by Misterbill

You are so wrong. Never said that. Never suggested that. Never hinted that.

Its contrary to personal history I have posted here about tennis, baseball and other sports

That would be kind of a goofy thing for anyone to think or say, so I am concluding I am being baited or trolled.

Will resist further response and hope the thread can get back to the substance that others are posting..........rather than personal, strange attempts at mind-reading.

Never even hinted at it ? Hmm, maybe these posts misled me :

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...52&postcount=5

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=129

Now, maybe I am reading these out of context, but my post was really just my honest summation of what I thought your position was, not a "personal, strange attempts at mind-reading".

I really don't appreciate that you keep attacking me personally, and then try to switch things and around and complain that I am the one launching personal attacks on you. Please review the thread history: your first post in the thread was a sarcastic, personal attack on me, by you, not the other way around. And I have tried to be nothing but civil to you.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...9&postcount=39

[Misterbill]

Originally Posted by Alohajrtennis

Never even hinted at it ? Hmm, maybe these posts misled me :

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...52&postcount=5

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=129

Now, maybe I am reading these out of context, but my post was really just my honest summation of what I thought your position was, not a "personal, strange attempts at mind-reading".

I really don't appreciate that you keep attacking me personally, and then try to switch things and around and complain that I am the one launching personal attacks on you. Please review the thread history: your first post in the thread was a sarcastic, personal attack on me, by you, not the other way around. And I have tried to be nothing but civil to you.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...9&postcount=39

Here is what you said:

Originally Posted by Alohajrtennis

I really get that you are generally opposed to kids traveling for sports, unless they are very, very, exceptional.

These are the texts of my posts that you cited to support your conclusion:

I don't think anyone should have a national pathway unless they are exceptionally good. I realize this puts me in the minority here

And:

I am glad the current tennis regime is not organized this way, and I hope USTA or TRN-National Showcase, or whatever, does not copy it. I know that 2 or 3 years you go to Nationals is not the case for wrestling, baseball, football, track, swimming, basketball, soccer and many others. USTA, please do not follow the gymnastics or cheerleading example that has been posted here

There is no way any reasonable person (sorry if you consider that a personal attack) could read what I wrote into the claim that I am "generally opposed to kids traveling for sports, unless they are very, very exceptional"

Let others be the judge. I think it would be goofy for anyone to think or say what you incorrectly said I said. You don't want to be called out for tripe like that? Then just stop it.

Anyway, I fell for the bait.

[10s4US]

Originally Posted by HIGH-TECH TENNIS

Hi - need to clarify. Yes, we saw and forwarded the petition to 3000 tennis enthusiasts as requested by one of our customers but - this is my opinion only - I don't think there is any point whatsoever to that petition (we haven't even signed it) because it is a done deal. Again, this is MY opinion and there may have been meetings, etc-I know nothing about them-but the changes are coming and there's virtually nothing we can do about them. HIGH-TECH TENNIS is working to expand beyond tournaments, perhaps beyond tennis, and we're keeping a close eye on national tournaments that our friends at Tennis Recruiting is working to develop...but the changes are definitely coming and we don't have to like them (and we DON'T) but we do have to accept them. Lots and lots of parents are gonna be blindsided...what a shame for junior tennis.

I was reminded again of the ALREADY reduced opportunities for nat'l play
'when i was asked by a students parent what tournaments to play to get nat'l points to qualify for a national B16. I had to say all you can do is play locally. Maybe get in a regional 3 an
The kid just aged up isnt ranked high enough to make 32 Nat open or Winter Nat draw. Playing local designated wins gets you 1 point in Level 5
2 points in a level 4. We're in a strong section, tough to get semis when more points kick in. The kid is a 5* in TRN !!! who won rounds in B12 Nat Opens,
B12 Nat Champs. He was a 33-64 player cut out of the B14 Nat opens, never got enough points for Nat Champs.
The 2011 changes and 2012 point changes already have blind sided 50% of the National play opportunities/participation.
some of which could blossom into a top player.
This parent sent me your petition which I forwarded.

The Petition serves as a documented mandate for US to have input to amend changes

Now we all await some response from USTA as to amends if any.

[tennis5]

Originally Posted by 10s4US

I was reminded again of the ALREADY reduced opportunities for nat'l play
'when i was asked by a students parent what tournaments to play to get nat'l points to qualify for a national B16. I had to say all you can do is play locally. Maybe get in a regional 3 an
The kid just aged up isnt ranked high enough to make 32 Nat open or Winter Nat draw. Playing local designated wins gets you 1 point in Level 5
2 points in a level 4. We're in a strong section, tough to get semis when more points kick in. The kid is a 5* in TRN !!! who won rounds in B12 Nat Opens,
B12 Nat Champs. He was a 33-64 player cut out of the B14 Nat opens, never got enough points for Nat Champs.
The 2011 changes and 2012 point changes already have blind sided 50% of the National play opportunities/participation.
some of which could blossom into a top player.
This parent sent me your petition which I forwarded.

The Petition serves as a documented mandate for US to have input to amend changes

Now we all await some response from USTA as to amends if any.

We are still waiting for a response from the USTA if they will listen to the outpouring from coaches, parents and juniors.

Meanwhile, if it is his first year aging up, he might miss out. Sorry, it definitely hurts junior's development to miss that year.

But, and I know if you are a coach, you might not want to give this advice as it directly affects your business,
but I would recommend playing HIGH SCHOOL TENNIS, especially in California.

Unfortunately, a lot of coaches discourage the kids from doing this as it directly hurts their pocketbook when a boatload of kids go to play high school tournaments instead of coming to their academy.......

I think it is a huge conflict of interest where I am seeing coaches actively discouraging kids from playing ( for free at high school practice) so they can come to the academy and pay.

[10ismom]

Originally Posted by tennis5

We are still waiting for a response from the USTA if they will listen to the outpouring from coaches, parents and juniors.

Meanwhile, if it is his first year aging up, he might miss out. Sorry, it definitely hurts junior's development to miss that year.

But, and I know if you are a coach, you might not want to give this advice as it directly affects your business,
but I would recommend playing HIGH SCHOOL TENNIS, especially in California.

Unfortunately, a lot of coaches discourage the kids from doing this as it directly hurts their pocketbook when a boatload of kids go to play high school tournaments instead of coming to their academy.......

I think it is a huge conflict of interest where I am seeing coaches actively discouraging kids from playing ( for free at high school practice) so they can come to the academy and pay.

Anyone hear any updated or any modification of the national schedule for 2013, 2014, please post on this board.

[tennis5]

I think the big meeting is this week to see if there will be any modifications to the schedule..

We will all be hit with the changes this summer with a reduction of the 64 to 32 for the July regional which kids have been using to age up.

And the reduction in Clay and Hard......

Hope these guys are persuasive.