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Old 09-21-2012, 09:15 AM   #181
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I've had a whirl with the sat nav now. The largest issue here is the search functionality, and the way we've got used to functioning under Google; you chuck in the name of a place or a business, and it finds it. Apple's tries to do the same, but has two issues. First, it simply doesn't have the same number of addresses in the database, so a lot of things get missed. Second, it has a habit of thinking it's got the right match when it hasn't. You don't get a list of matches to select the correct one - it seems to either be a yes or no affair. In instances where there are multiple matches (as an example, if you make a generic search such as 'Starbucks'), it will put down pins for the 4 closest matches to your current location. I found myself reverting to either postcode lookup, or finding the location on the map and dropping a pin there myself.

Once it's going, it seems ok. When planning a longer journey (about 35 miles), it gave me three routes on an overview so I could pick the most suitable. I'm not sure if it adjusts for traffic or not: there are some red lines on the map when traffic builds up, but I didn't at any point get warned audibly. Perhaps it already caters for this on the route, so doesn't see the point.

Battery gets absolutely eaten when it's running. A 15 minute journey took it down 10%. Again, not a huge problem as you'd usually be charging in the car, but worth considering if you don't store a cable there and may find yourself wanting to use the sat nav on the fly. This is on the 4S; hopefully it's handled better on the 5.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:15 AM   #182
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It wasn't laggy when I had Gingerbread. Nor was my original Motorola Droid laggy from over 2 years ago...
Then you're lucky, because you've had very different experiences from most Android owners I know, as well as from the people who discuss this stuff online. Gingerbread 2.3 and the OSes before, are widely regarded as awful. I loved each of my Android phones for the first 3-6 months each, only to watch them disintegrate into a pile of garbage.

My current phone won't post FB statuses, but it will post comments on other people's statuses. If I try to multitask, apps force close. The phone itself moves slowly, normal processes crawl along. It lags switching home screens, and the battery lasts about 10 hours of me not using the phone at all. If I used it heavily, I'd get 3-4 hours of juice, no joke.

Again, in December of 2010 this was the best Android phone on TMobile, and one of the best Androids on the market, period. It had the most memory of anything out there, a good processor at the time and had really impressive benchmarks. That feeling didn't last long.

The current crop of Android phones is in a different class, so obviously I'm not holding anything against Android now...There are things about the OS I love and will miss, and the current superphones are very impressive. It's disappointing that so few users have an up to date OS, but it's still a very strong platform. Market share doesn't lie in that regard.

iPhones aren't the be all end all for tech, and while it falls short in some areas, it excels in others (imo, anyway). All I know is after three years of consistent frustration, I'm ready for a different experience. I'll know soon enough if I've made a mistake.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:19 AM   #183
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I've had a whirl with the sat nav now. The largest issue here is the search functionality, and the way we've got used to functioning under Google; you chuck in the name of a place or a business, and it finds it. Apple's tries to do the same, but has two issues. First, it simply doesn't have the same number of addresses in the database, so a lot of things get missed. Second, it has a habit of thinking it's got the right match when it hasn't. You don't get a list of matches to select the correct one - it seems to either be a yes or no affair. In instances where there are multiple matches (as an example, if you make a generic search such as 'Starbucks'), it will put down pins for the 4 closest matches to your current location. I found myself reverting to either postcode lookup, or finding the location on the map and dropping a pin there myself.

Once it's going, it seems ok. When planning a longer journey (about 35 miles), it gave me three routes on an overview so I could pick the most suitable. I'm not sure if it adjusts for traffic or not: there are some red lines on the map when traffic builds up, but I didn't at any point get warned audibly. Perhaps it already caters for this on the route, so doesn't see the point.

Battery gets absolutely eaten when it's running. A 15 minute journey took it down 10%. Again, not a huge problem as you'd usually be charging in the car, but worth considering if you don't store a cable there and may find yourself wanting to use the sat nav on the fly. This is on the 4S; hopefully it's handled better on the 5.
Maps definitely seem to be an issue on iOS6. Seems like Google will release this app soon enough (Google apparently has an app waiting on Apple's approval), so that should help, but it feels like a misstep from Apple here.

To the bolded, 10% in 15 minutes isn't bad. I've gone 15-20 minutes of turn by turn on my current phone and lost 25-30% of the battery. It seems to cripple any device as a data hog. Getting in dash nav in my car was the best decision ever.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:20 AM   #184
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Server I have a brand new Droid and I am still in the same spot. It starts off great than after a few months just becomes a mess for reasons I described prior.

I'd probably just accept and deal with it. I mean I rooted it, and did all kinds of tweaks so I could just kep searching for that magic ROM to use. But when you combine the OS lagging out, battery getting crushed due to excessive force closing, and then add in the sprint service, it just hits a point where it is time to move on. I could not justify paying my smartphone fee to them (I have to pay for a signal booster as well for my home) when I pay the exact same price for Verizon (no booster needed) and have a phone that I believe I will like better due to my experience with iOS.

Think I will probably always defer to google maps..they arejust really good at it, but the apple maps on my ipad is not bad. I have not messed with it too much.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:20 AM   #185
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The maps are fine, total BS from Google PR machine.
I shall respectfully disagree here, because the Maps are awful. The issue isn't so much what they look like (some of the UK satellite imagery is under a cloud... though you could argue that's what it's like most of the time ), but the data.

There's no other major issue I can see that's been introduced with iOS 6, but if you use Maps a lot then it's an absolute clanger.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:23 AM   #186
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What sucks the worst is when my current EVO freezes up and runs slow because of the multitasking issue it has, they aren't even sure if Jellybean will fix it. And then the next question is when does Jellybean come out? And no one knows.

HTC basically programs the phone to aggressively kill apps to save battery. Problem is that they close and reopen over and over so fast that it actually lags the phone. iOS is great because you can just close the apps out in the tray and they are done. So much easier.
Yeah I've had all these issues as well, and the fragmentation/JB issue is a big one. HTC One X and GSIII will likely get updates, but everything else? It's doubtful. At some point, the fragmentation will catch up with the superphones as well, only the Nexus devices will get every update, but those are underwhelming phones imo (Galaxy Nexus currently has the worst camera of any top end phone).
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:28 AM   #187
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btw-
did anyone know the reason for the unique smoothness of the iphone motion while sweeping, sliding zooming etc.,is that the IOS uses 60fps, while Android uses 30fps !
i always tried to argue with people that Android just doesn't have that smooth motion in my eyes.
now i know i was right
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:31 AM   #188
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btw-
did anyone know the reason for the unique smoothness of the iphone motion while sweeping, sliding zooming etc.,is that the IOS uses 60fps, while Android uses 30fps !
i always tried to argue with people that Android just doesn't have that smooth motion in my eyes.
now i know i was right
You are right. They are trying to fix that in jellybean, but every app will have to be updated. And without a doubt it makes a big difference.

Relevant link for any naysayers:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/p...id-4-1s-speed/

The reason the call of duty series took off so fast for xbox was because it was 60FPS (besides being a highly addictive shooter). Everyone was blown away by how smooth it was.

I would read game developers try and say it didnt make a huge difference, but you could always tell.

Agree the Nexus is underwhelming. It was one of the phones I could have gotten, but it just didnt really do much for me when I checked it out.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:38 AM   #189
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Here's an interesting article about the cross section of iPhone 5 buyers this morning in NYC.

http://www.businessinsider.com/iphon...hone-4s-2012-9

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In a survey of iPhone 5 buyers in New York this morning, Topeka Capital found 50% of them were upgrading to Apple's latest phone from the iPhone 4S.

Topeka Capital's survey also found 11% of people were upgrading from the iPhone 4, 3% from the iPhone 3GS, and 36% were first-time iPhone owners.
Bold is my own. If even 10% of those first time iPhone buyers are Android/BB converts, it means Apple will pick up market share even though hard core tech fans have found the 5 to be underwhelming. I know a lot of Android users who plan to convert...Will be interesting to see if this trend is similar across all buyers.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:53 AM   #190
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You are right. They are trying to fix that in jellybean, but every app will have to be updated. And without a doubt it makes a big difference.

Relevant link for any naysayers:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/p...id-4-1s-speed/

The reason the call of duty series took off so fast for xbox was because it was 60FPS (besides being a highly addictive shooter). Everyone was blown away by how smooth it was.

I would read game developers try and say it didnt make a huge difference, but you could always tell.

Agree the Nexus is underwhelming. It was one of the phones I could have gotten, but it just didnt really do much for me when I checked it out.
yea someone told me that android will catch up on this eventually,
and you proved it right.
question is, will it work really smoothly THE SAME AS IOS? or "not exactly"?
the 60fps factor was the first thing that made me choose iphone.
30fps just irritates my eyes. i'm sensitive to this stuff.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:09 AM   #191
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Me too. I know some people will claim BS, but it is VERY obvious.

Anyway there are plenty of reasons to show why many of us here will go Apple, and the fact that anyone would criticize us for it shows their immaturity. Its all about what works for you as a phone.

If it is good enough for JDali, I know I will dig it.
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Me too. I know some people will claim BS, but it is VERY obvious.

Anyway there are plenty of reasons to show why many of us here will go Apple, and the fact that anyone would criticize us for it shows their immaturity. Its all about what works for you as a phone.

If it is good enough for JDali, I know I will dig it.
to tell the truth i don't really care if i'll have an Iphone or other phone (except for the 60fps rule!!! and no additional headaches),
i still can even hang to my Iphone 4 for a while, but the lack of some functions starting to be missing on the newer IOS update is a downer.
and i THINK i notice some more minor slowness after installing IOS6.
however i do think a bigger screen is now essential, though i'm not so sure if the bigger 5 screen will be now sufficient for watching movies/tube.
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Me too. I know some people will claim BS, but it is VERY obvious.

Anyway there are plenty of reasons to show why many of us here will go Apple, and the fact that anyone would criticize us for it shows their immaturity. Its all about what works for you as a phone.

If it is good enough for JDali, I know I will dig it.

The fact that you keep rationalizing your decision and remain incredibly over sensitive shows insecurity on your part...

and I doubt you spent only 200 on the new I5..., especially if you just got the new Evo only 3 months ago
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Best iPhone ever made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNBP18nrRdw
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Best iPhone ever made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNBP18nrRdw
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Best iPhone ever made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNBP18nrRdw
Love it..lol.
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The king of the benchmark test by pc mag is :


http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410034,00.asp
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Where is the picture of you guyses's new Iphone 5 ?
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I've decided to hold back on the S3 for now. 4g coverage is starting to become available for the first time here and Samsung are releasing a 4g version sometime in October I think.

The only problem is every phone company will be on a different frequency, which i'm lead to believe is the case in America too? Sounds like it could make things a bit complicated!
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Best iPhone ever made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNBP18nrRdw
Pretty funny. Well made spoof as well.
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