Annual flu shot bashing thread - 2012

[sureshs]

We all got the shot today.

May the battles begin.

[r2473]

Originally Posted by sureshs

We all got shot today.

Dear god

[LeeD]

Good for the young, the healthy, and the strong.
Bad for the old, the sickly, and the weak.

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Good for the young, the healthy, and the strong.
Bad for the old, the sickly, and the weak.

Other way around. Oldies are in the high-risk category

[LeeD]

Every year, the elderly get sicker, get new sicknesses, die from the new bugs introduced into their systems. Leave them well enough alone.
They young can handle the germs that are introduced into your body.
Most old folks don't die directly from the shots, but die from complications from the shot including pnumonia, added load to the immune system (that is already weak and suspect), and results from being more sick than they already are.
Leave them alone.

[Talker]

Originally Posted by sureshs

We all got the shot today.

May the battles begin.

Oh my god.

I always wondered who gets those shots.

[Squidward]

I'll Pass, Thank You Very Much....

[Thepowerofchoice]

Originally Posted by sureshs

Other way around. Oldies are in the high-risk category

Please don't listen to this. Do your reserch.

[Thepowerofchoice]

http://www.naturalnews.com/flu_vaccine.html

[clutch21]

Originally Posted by Thepowerofchoice

http://www.naturalnews.com/flu_vaccine.html

Can't believe everything thats written on the internet. Why not try sites that are actually based on credible research-

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/002025.htm

[WildVolley]

No flu shot for me. Had it once in my life and it made me sick. Never again. Most years I don't get the flu, and I'm not in a high risk group.

I disagree with the push to give the shot to people who aren't in high risk groups. I guess the logic is that less flu will be spread if all take the shots, but the shots have been hit-and-miss in terms of identifying which strain will hit big this fall and winter.

I'd advise to get the single-dose versions so you don't get mercury injected into your bloodstream if you want to get the flu shot.

[clutch21]

Originally Posted by WildVolley

No flu shot for me. Had it once in my life and it made me sick. Never again. Most years I don't get the flu, and I'm not in a high risk group.

I disagree with the push to give the shot to people who aren't in high risk groups. I guess the logic is that less flu will be spread if all take the shots, but the shots have been hit-and-miss in terms of identifying which strain will hit big this fall and winter.

I'd advise to get the single-dose versions so you don't get mercury injected into your bloodstream if you want to get the flu shot.

I know this is falling on deaf ears, but it's not possible to get sick from the flu shot. The flu shot is an inactive virus. It is not possible to get sick from it. That is a fact. If you were sick, it was purely coincidence.

There is a very small chance that you might be allergic to the flu vaccine, but medically speaking, the virus cannot reproduce in your cells, making you sick like the an active influenza strain will.

[WildVolley]

Originally Posted by clutch21

I know this is falling on deaf ears, but it's not possible to get sick from the flu shot. The flu shot is an inactive virus. It is not possible to get sick from it. That is a fact. If you were sick, it was purely coincidence.

There is a very small chance that you might be allergic to the flu vaccine, but medically speaking, the virus cannot reproduce in your cells, making you sick like the an active influenza strain will.

I did get sick from the shot. I didn't say I got the flu, but I suffered a fever and aches and pains for days after the shot. The CDC says these are potential side effects. So, no, it wasn't purely coincidence that I went from feeling completely healthy to sick the day after getting the flu shot.

[clutch21]

Originally Posted by WildVolley

I did get sick from the shot. I didn't say I got the flu, but I suffered a fever and aches and pains for days after the shot. The CDC says these are potential side effects. So, no, it wasn't purely coincidence that I went from feeling completely healthy to sick the day after getting the flu shot.

Our definitions of "sick" are different. Benign aches and a fever that last a day or two is not a sickness, in my opinion. Especially when you weigh those side effects against actually acquiring the flu. I guess we are just going to have to disagree.

[NLBwell]

Best to get the flu shot early. It prevents spread to others if you would happen to be one of the first people to get the flu. Also, if you get the flu already and you are about to get symptoms (it takes a day or two) and then get the shot, the body spends energy fighting the dead flu as well as the live flu and you can get sicker than you would otherwise.

[WildVolley]

Originally Posted by clutch21

Our definitions of "sick" are different. Benign aches and a fever that last a day or two is not a sickness, in my opinion. Especially when you weigh those side effects against actually acquiring the flu. I guess we are just going to have to disagree.

Yes we will. Because I've gotten the flu in the past and had symptoms which lasted a day or two and were no big deal.

It is a mistake to conclude that all people will suffer from a flu to the same extent. Sometimes flu symptoms can be vicious and other times they are just slightly annoying. Perhaps it depends on the flu strain, the viral load, and how well your immune system is working. But some years I've helped people who have received the vaccine yet still become quite sick, while I've only had symptoms that are like an annoying cold.

As I previously stated, I'm not in a high risk group and have had good success without the vaccine so I'll just take my chances and save some money.

[Limpinhitter]

The last time I had a flu shot (about 20 years ago), it left a wheal on my arm about the size of a golf ball. No mas para mio.

[Limpinhitter]

Originally Posted by clutch21

Can't believe everything thats written on the internet. Why not try sites that are actually based on credible research-

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/002025.htm

Sorry, but you can't believe everything you read on Medline either. Scientific fraud is epidemic. Financial conflicts of interest in medical research are the norm. And, there is an inverse relationship between the reliability of medical research and the financial interest in the outcome of the research of those involved in the reporting and underlying studies of such research.

[r2473]

Originally Posted by WildVolley

I've helped people who have received the vaccine yet still become quite sick, while I've only had symptoms that are like an annoying cold.

So how did you know you had the flu and not a cold?

[WildVolley]

Originally Posted by r2473

So how did you know you had the flu and not a cold?

I can't say with certainty(both caused by viruses), but since I was being exposed to the flu virus from being around people who had obvious flu-like symptoms, I just assumed that the virus-like symptoms I was experiencing were from the same virus.

When you think about it, very few of us ever are tested for the strain of virus we've contracted. If someone you know gets a fever with aches and pains and then starts projectile vomiting, and then a few days later you come down with the same symptoms, you just assume that you've caught a flu going around. Since antibiotics don't work for viruses, I don't recall a doctor ever taking a flu sample and then culturing it. I would guess that you could test for certain proteins in the immune system after the fact, but I'm not a doctor and I don't know much about virus identification other than knowing that it can be rather difficult (as the controversy and difficulty in identifying and isolating the AIDS virus showed).