The Feds string setup

[Nickac]

Why does he set it up this way
Gut in the mains and alu power rough in crosses
Why not all gut?
Why not the other way around?

[bugeyed]

Originally Posted by Nickac

Why does he set it up this way
Gut in the mains and alu power rough in crosses
Why not all gut?
Why not the other way around?

Gut in the crosses doesn't make any sense at all!

k

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by Nickac

Why does he set it up this way
Gut in the mains and alu power rough in crosses
Why not all gut?
Why not the other way around?

Because he doesn't care what you think he should do.

[Nickac]

Originally Posted by bugeyed

Gut in the crosses doesn't make any sense at all!

k

Explain please

[drakulie]

Originally Posted by Nickac

Explain please

Nick, putting gut in the mains is the way to go. I'll explain:

the performance you get from your string bed comes primarily from the mains. The crosses sort of act like a suspension system. So, putting the gut in the mains, you are getting power, spin, control, comfort, and putting the poly in the crosses stiffens up the string bed a little adding to the control and spin.

If you wanted to do it the other way around ( poly mains/gut crosses), you are sort of waisitng a set of gut, because any less expensive multi will do the same thing, which is to soften the string bed.

[bugeyed]

Originally Posted by Nickac

Explain please

The mains provide for most of the feel & power of a racquet. Putting gut in the crosses is a waste of money. If you are spending the money for gut, use it in the mains where it makes a difference.

k

[Nickac]

Originally Posted by drakulie

Nick, putting gut in the mains is the way to go. I'll explain:

the performance you get from your string bed comes primarily from the mains. The crosses sort of act like a suspension system. So, putting the gut in the mains, you are getting power, spin, control, comfort, and putting the poly in the crosses stiffens up the string bed a little adding to the control and spin.

If you wanted to do it the other way around ( poly mains/gut crosses), you are sort of waisitng a set of gut, because any less expensive multi will do the same thing, which is to soften the string bed.

So you're saying by putting the poly in the crosses are actually increasing control and spin versus just doing a full set of gut?

[Hotrocks]

Originally Posted by drakulie

Nick, putting gut in the mains is the way to go. I'll explain:

the performance you get from your string bed comes primarily from the mains. The crosses sort of act like a suspension system. So, putting the gut in the mains, you are getting power, spin, control, comfort, and putting the poly in the crosses stiffens up the string bed a little adding to the control and spin.

If you wanted to do it the other way around ( poly mains/gut crosses), you are sort of waisitng a set of gut, because any less expensive multi will do the same thing, which is to soften the string bed.

Drakulie- Is spot on!!! The power, comfort and control is unequaled. But pick a poly that has the best tension resilience, Weiss Canon or Signum Pro, as the gut will outlast the other. Mosuito bite, Scorpion, S/P- Thundedrstorm are great contenders. But....These are the poly's I have tried, we all differ with the feel we have.

[heartattack]

synthetic main and poly cross are good also!

[UCSF2012]

Poly mains is more steady. I hook fewer attack shots wide. Fewer 2nd serves getting away from me. Just use cheap gut in the crosses, like Mamba or Titan. This setup plays well long. When the poly dies, the gut makes up for it. No real loss in power, little loss in placement

Gut mains is a shade more spinny but a shade more erratic. When poly dies, it gets really erratic. Much more spinny, but lots of hooking the ball wide.

[UCSF2012]

With poly mains, multi crosses, it plays very steady with a good amount of spin. Power drops off significantly compared to gut crosses. Be prepared to swing to the moon.

[parasailing]

Originally Posted by Hotrocks

Drakulie- Is spot on!!! The power, comfort and control is unequaled. But pick a poly that has the best tension resilience, Weiss Canon or Signum Pro, as the gut will outlast the other. Mosuito bite, Scorpion, S/P- Thundedrstorm are great contenders. But....These are the poly's I have tried, we all differ with the feel we have.

Don't forget Ltec 4S or 0S as well.

[whbd4life]

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/lear...OFreporter.php

The string friction ratio of the strings and the amazing feel gut provides is the only reason Federer does it this way. This link will explain how string friction ratio affects your shot.

[bdinpgh]

Anyone have any idea what tensions Mr. Federer uses on his gut mains and poly crosses ??

[Dreamcastin]

Originally Posted by bdinpgh

Anyone have any idea what tensions Mr. Federer uses on his gut mains and poly crosses ??

mid to high 40s, usually the gut a couple pounds higher than the poly.

[Vcore89]

Fed's setup varies in regards to weather conditions. Tighter in the colder months. 44 mains and 46 crosses mainly; up to 52 pounds. Always lower on the mains and higher on the crosses.

[Vcore89]

Just fyi, Rafa on the other hand has always stuck with 55 lbs.

[Bk_Mais]

Originally Posted by heartattack

synthetic main and poly cross are good also!

So, whats the difference between going syn/main - poly/cross & poly/main - syn/cross ?

[McLovin]

I truly believe what drakulie said to be 100% spot-on, and it is how I string my frames, however, anyone thinking of a poly hybrid should do the following:

- choose your strings (gut/poly or multi/poly)
- choose your tension
- string two identical racquets at the same time, one with the poly in the cross, one with it in the mains.
- head out to the courts and attempt a 'blind taste test', where you hit w/ one, then switch to the other, trying to NOT look at the strings (I know, very hard to do).

If you like poly in the mains, go with it. If you like poly in the cross, go with that.

Once you've chosen where you want the poly, possibly try the same setup but swap the other string (e.g., if you used multi, try gut). If you notice a difference, and like one better than the other, then go with it.

Effectively, don't take our word for it, experience it for yourself. Everyone is different.

[bert96]

Originally Posted by Vcore89

Fed's setup varies in regards to weather conditions. Tighter in the colder months. 44 mains and 46 crosses mainly; up to 52 pounds. Always lower on the mains and higher on the crosses.

Thats not his tension!

His tension is usually right around 22 kg and he always strings his crosses 1,5 kg looser than his mains