Who will end the year as number 1?

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

Looks like Federer is paying the price for skipping Monte Carlo.

[RogerFan1991]

^^^ Not exactly, he is playing the prince for not going deeper in the Us Open, thats it.

[MSK]

Murray will be no.1

[tennis_pro]

Here's what the bookies think:

http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/se...at-seasons-end

[NadalAgassi]

How on earth can their be odds on some of those players. Roddick is well outside the top 10 in both ATP rankings and the Race and has officialy retired. Soderling doesnt even have a ranking anymore. Nobody below Murray or Nadal could even mathematically reach #1 if they won every tournament until years end and Djokovic and Federer did not win another match all year. I guess they are taking advantage of some incredibly stupid people out there who have no business making any tennis related bets.

[Hawkeye7]

How on earth can Murray and Nadal be below Ferrer??? Ferrer can't even mathematically end this year as #1. Uhm, okay then. Let alone that he just retired from his R1 match and won't play in Shanghai.

Djokovic is the logical option here.

[NDFM]

to be honest i'm not too sure but if fed gets it then he will break or tie another record which will only add to his already outstanding career accomplishments.

[Hood_Man]

Originally Posted by RogerFan1991

^^^ Not exactly, he is playing the prince for not going deeper in the Us Open, thats it.

Yeah, this. If he'd played Monte Carlo he would have paid for it elsewhere, possibly Wimbledon.

Still, we'll see how the indoor season goes. I suspect Novak will take it though.

[EDIT]

He'd be the first player not called Federer to end two consecutive seasons as World #1 since Hewitt in 2001-2002 if he does it.

[Evan77]

MC doesn't really matter that much. Djokovic only played 13 tournaments this year. Fed played 16. Novak is still leading the race, so I assume he'll probably end up as #1. Also, Fed has too many points to defend.

[RF20Lennon]

Originally Posted by Evan77

MC doesn't really matter that much. Djokovic only played 13 tournaments this year. Fed played 16. Novak is still leading the race, so I assume he'll probably end up as #1. Also, Fed has too many points to defend.

He will most probably break 300 regardless needs to win only one match at shanghai I think that's way more than enough

[bezs]

Gonna be hard for Roger with so much points to defend but he might just do it.

[Evan77]

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

He will most probably break 300 regardless needs to win only one match at shanghai I think that's way more than enough

yeah, I'm pretty sure Rog will break 300 and that's a great record, no question. If he somehow manages to end up as year end #1 (I doubt it tho) he'll equal Sampras as the only guy to do it 6 times. My personal opinion is that it's not that important as he has nothing really to prove to anyone any more.

So, basically, Fed will be 'holding' all important records ... plenty of fun for his fans .

[Gonzo_style]

Djokovic i think, 1000pts is to much for 31yrs old Fed......

[RF20Lennon]

Originally Posted by Evan77

yeah, I'm pretty sure Rog will break 300 and that's a great record, no question. If he somehow manages to end up as year end #1 (I doubt it tho) he'll equal Sampras as the only guy to do it 6 times. My personal opinion is that it's not that important as he has nothing really to prove to anyone any more.

So, basically, Fed will be 'holding' all important records ... plenty of fun for his fans .

Yes sir!!

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Evan77

MC doesn't really matter that much. Djokovic only played 13 tournaments this year. Fed played 16. Novak is still leading the race, so I assume he'll probably end up as #1. Also, Fed has too many points to defend.

But Fed is head and shoulders above anyone else indoor and Murray typically goes on a roll in Asia. I fully expect Murray to pocket his 3rd Shanghai title this year, so Djoko won't gain that many points there even if he wins Beijing. And indoor, Fed reigns (unless he has some kind of wearout/injury going on). Fed will win Basel most certainly and he wins WTF most of the time, so the only question mark for him is Paris but one has to take into account that neither Murray nor Djoko has a great record in Paris and WTF (I know Djoko won Paris and WTF once but since then, he's done rather poorly in both events and Murray hasn't even made a final in those events ), which means that Fed could outperform them even if he doesn't win Paris. On a side note, I find it remarkable that Djoko is leading the race given how few tournaments he's played compared to the others. That speaks volumes about how consistent he's been in the big events. However, in the event Fed plays Shanghai and Murray/Djoko have to duke it out in the semi, Fed would have a golden opportunity to take Shanghai and seal year end #1 at the same time...

[Hood_Man]

Can you imagine if the race for year end #1 came down to a final between Fed and Djok at the WTF?

If only it was best of 5!

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Hood_Man

Can you imagine if the race for year end #1 came down to a final between Fed and Djok at the WTF?

If only it was best of 5!

It SHOULD be best of 5. That event doesn't have all the credibility the ATP is desperate to give it unfortunately. This (WTF final Fed/Djoko) would be the best case scenario for us spectators, maximum drama and suspense

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0

Looks like Federer is paying the price for skipping Monte Carlo.

Looks like Nadal is playing the price for skipping Olympics, Toronto, Cincinatti, US Open, Tokyo and etc.

It won't be long before Ferrer and Murray overtake him.

[Evan77]

Fed is a better player indoors. I agree. However, both Novak and Roger didn't play the Asian swing last year. Djokovic, if he wins China Open, will win extra 500 points (it's very likely as the field is very weak there. The only player that might challenge him there is Tsonga but his form is questionable right now. Remind you he never lost a match in Shanghai and won the title twice.

As for Murray and Novak, if they meet in Shangai I'd say it's 50/50. Murray was successful last year in Asia but both Djokovic and Fed didn't play. Again both Fed and Novak can only gain points in Shanghai and Murray is irrelevant because he mathematically can not be #1 this year. Plus don't right off Fed in Shanghai, he'll be fresh and he can hurt Murray anywhere. The question is who will do better in Shangai this year, Roger or Novak?

Djokovic lost in Paris last year (W/O to Tsonga, QF), lost in Basel SF, and played like a monkey at the WTF being completely wasted.

Realistically, he just needs to stay ahead one step ahead of Roger and he'll easily end up as #1. Fed needs to defend Basel, Paris and WTF plus play exceptionally well in Asia. very high task for him.

The reason why Djokovic is leading the race by 1000 points (despite the fact that he played only 13 tournaments) is that he simply outperformed Fed at slams (Novak, 1W, 2F, 1SF; Fed 1W, 2SF, 1QF) plus he was more consistent. Djokovic won or reached semis/finals of all tournaments he played this year except for Madrid (lost in QF).

p.s. this is my re to Veroniquem's post #56

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Evan77

Fed is a better player indoors. I agree. However, both Novak and Roger didn't play the Asian swing last year. Djokovic, if he wins China Open, will win extra 500 points (it's very likely as the field is very weak there. The only player that might challenge him there is Tsonga but his form is questionable right now. Remind you he never lost a match in Shanghai and won the title twice.







p.s. this is my re to Veroniquem

I'm gonna assume you meant Beijing there? Because Djoko has never won Shanghai. I know Djoko was injured last year, still, in Paris he did well once and that's it. All other times (6 to be precise) that Djoko participated in the event, he didn't even make the semi. He's also reached WTF final only once in 5 participations vs Fed who reached the final almost every single time he's played it. So I don't think it's a given AT ALL Djoko will manage to snatch #1. Personally, I totally hope you're right because I firmly believe that whoever does best in slams should finish the year as #1, it just seems "fair" that it should be this way. But this year is tight and it is undeniable Fed has a non negligible chance to pull it off.