More important event: Madrid or Olympics?

[underground]

Olympics is really rare, you only get it once per 4 years.

However, Madrid on blue clay will only ever happen once, and it was won by the GOAT, so obviously it's more important.

[veroniquem]

According to the ATP system, any master (except maybe M-C) is more important than the Olympics. The Olympics only counts as a 500 in the player's ranking total- like DC (even though it gives a bit more points). Of course, the reality is that the Madrif smurf circus is a complete joke, never mind being forced to pretend this buffoon fiasco is legit...

[Alchemy-Z]

Olympics is not about the points.

people have several master shields...its a very small group of tennis players that have multiple medals....if any at all

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Alchemy-Z

Olympics is not about the points.

people have several master shields...its a very small group of tennis players that have multiple medals....if any at all

Sure but one could also argue that neither Olympics nor DC should be regarded as fully individual achievements. In both of them, you represent your country and win the medal/trophy for your country rather than for just yourself. Spain/ Serbia/ USA, etc has X Olympic medals and X DC titles. DC is a team event anyway. In the case of masters and slams, you win them for yourself alone, so those are true individual achievements.

[フェデラー]

Originally Posted by SoBad

I agree - no GOAT candidacy without the singles gold.

Yep, Borg, Sampras, Federer, not goat contenders at all.

[Evan77]

My dilemma is this. Would you rather work at McDonald for $100,000 or at Microsoft for $75,000 ? discuss.

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by Evan77

My dilemma is this. Would you rather work at McDonald for $100,000 or at Microsoft for $75,000 ? discuss.

McDonald's for 100K. Less stressful and easier paycheck. But I'd still take the Olympics.

[dangalak]

Originally Posted by Mainad

Do you mean it is over-hyped just because Murray won it? Why do I have the feeling you wouldn't be pedalling this argument if Federer had won it instead?



Lol at the idea of poor old Fed hobbling about Wimbledon's hallowed lawns on his zimmer frame, swatting away all those cheeky young bucks trying to stop him winning his 17th major. In reality, it was a great achievement of course but Federer was in peak condition and playing at almost his peak level. The only things he had to battle were the other players.



Oh change the record, it's becoming wearily familiar. The only guy who got handed a silver platter at the US Open was Novak Djokovic for coming runner-up in the final! A bit of wind, lol? Somehow all the other players couldn't cope with it except for Murray? Do me a favour!! He battled through a much harder draw than Federer ever had to contend with and didn't buckle at the first tough opponent that came his way like Fed did. He went out and won that tournament every bit as fair and square as Federer went out and won Wimbledon. Only a ludicrously biased ******* like yourself would ever try to argue otherwise!

And yes, I believe the Olympics was a more important event than Madrid (although the ATP doesn't award it as many ranking points). Whatsmore, I'll wager Roger Federer thought it was a more important event as well!

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Yes that is why he took an MTO against Malisse and moved like a 60 year old.

Originally Posted by hersito

Say what ever you people want to say, bash me as much as you want but for me Olympics is the biggest title any athlete can get, even more when the pros are playing, you can only win it once every 4 years, with GS and any other tournament you have a chance every year.

WTF>GS. You have one chance every year to win WTF. You have 4 chances to win a major.

What a crock.

[hersito]

Originally Posted by dangalak

WTF>GS. You have one chance every year to win WTF. You have 4 chances to win a major.

What a crock.

of course I was talking about GS individually hence you have 4 chances to win wimbledon, AO, RG or USO for every 1 chance you have for winning the olimpics. But that's a good way to twist the meaning of what I said, you should look for a job at fox news...

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by dangalak

WTF>GS. You have one chance every year to win WTF. You have 4 chances to win a major.

What a crock.

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by Evan77

My dilemma is this. Would you rather work at McDonald for $100,000 or at Microsoft for $75,000 ? discuss.

Microsoft.....so I don't lose my brain cells and synapses.

[Hood_Man]

Originally Posted by Evan77

My dilemma is this. Would you rather work at McDonald for $100,000 or at Microsoft for $75,000 ? discuss.

Microsoft. I think being able to tell people with pride "I work for Microsoft!" is worth the $25k I'd be missing out on.

That and I worked or McDonalds 6 years ago and it was awful

[Sentinel]

Yep, Borg, Sampras, Federer, not goat contenders at all.

GOAT contenders would be Massu and Nadal right ? Actually Massu, since he won both doubles and singles Gold at same OG, whereas Nadal won only singles.

Originally Posted by Evan77

My dilemma is this. Would you rather work at McDonald for $100,000 or at Microsoft for $75,000 ? discuss.

MS for $75,000??? What kind of a ???? job do they offer 75k for? Janitor's work ? Doorman ? Their software should be abolished anyway

[dangalak]

Originally Posted by hersito

of course I was talking about GS individually hence you have 4 chances to win wimbledon, AO, RG or USO for every 1 chance you have for winning the olimpics. But that's a good way to twist the meaning of what I said, you should look for a job at fox news...

Olympics are some of the most overrated sports events there is. Only since Nadal won it it became the big deal it is now.

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by フェデラー

Yep, Borg, Sampras, Federer, not goat contenders at all.

Borg and Sampras are candidates, since Borg is the #2/3 all-time dirtballer, while Sampras is one of the greatest grasscourt specialists of all time.

[Dark Magician]

Originally Posted by Sentinel

MS for $75,000??? What kind of a ???? job do they offer 75k for? Janitor's work ? Doorman ? Their software should be abolished anyway

For GOAT posters like you, they give 75k$ per week!!

[zagor]

Originally Posted by batz

Only 3000? Why the hate dude?

OK, 3000 for the silver medal and 5000 for the gold one but that's as high as I'll go

[zagor]

Originally Posted by MichaelNadal

Couldn't agree more. I think they know deep down. If they don't im scared for them to have children lol.

Interesting, what about Nadal fans who refer to WTF (a potentially 1500 points worth tourney valued greatly by nobodies such as Sampras, Lendl, Becker and Federer) as a worthless, cheesy exo (as in worth zero points, outclassed by tourneys like say Stockholm and Serbia Open)? Are you scared for them to have children too?

Thing is, Olympics' relative worth regarding tennis is very subjective and varies greatly from player to player (and from fan to fan) and as much as there are Fed fans around here who downplay it's significance there are Nadal fans who overrate it to high heavens mainly because it's one of the rare things Fed lacks in his resumee and their Spartan hero happenes to have won it.

Sure top players put a great effort at the Olympics this year but that wasn't always the case in the past (heck, during the reign of some past great players, tennis wasn't even an Olympic sport so they couldn't participate even if they wanted to) and if we value personal opinions of players so much we'd have to agree that for example Fed's 7 Wimbledons are clearly worth more than Nadal's 7 FOs since the vast majority of players holds Wimbledon in higher regard than any other slam, somehow I doubt Nadal fanboys around here would agree with that.

[batz]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

Sure but one could also argue that neither Olympics nor DC should be regarded as fully individual achievements. In both of them, you represent your country and win the medal/trophy for your country rather than for just yourself. Spain/ Serbia/ USA, etc has X Olympic medals and X DC titles. DC is a team event anyway. In the case of masters and slams, you win them for yourself alone, so those are true individual achievements.

I can see the gist of where you're coming from but this isn't actually correct, at least not for the Olympics. Some (displaced) athletes compete under the flag of the IOC. Also, unlike DC, no country 'wins' the Olympic games overall, or at the individual event level e.g. Great Britain is not the reigning men's singles tennis Olympic champion - Andy Murray is, whereas Spain are the regining DC champions, not Nadal, Ferrer et al.

This also explains why, unlike DC, individual names are used in the scoring rather than countries e.g. 'Murray leads, 2 sets to 1' rather than 'Great Britian lead, 2 sets to 1'.

[Raz11]

In terms of prestige, Olympics > Masters. It is obvious considering how the players responded to winning the medals.

In terms of difficulty, Olympics = Miami, IW > All the Other Masters. Olympics has the 5 set final whereas Miami and Indian Wells has the larger draw so they even out.