Genesis Black Magic

[purple-n-gold]

Originally Posted by Chace

To me black magic is softer, more pop and more spin. Maintains tension better. I use the 17g and get around 7-8 hours out of it before it breaks. There are other polys out there that have more pop or spin but to me black magic is just a solid all around string.

Naw...no way it holds tension better than 4G. I like BM and can get @ 8 useful hours but its performance drops off at 3-4 hr mark. My first set of 4G got 10 really good hours and I still have it in one of my frames, granted it's dead but has 20hrs on it. BM has that plastic feeling when its dead the 4G does not.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by Grut

Hello, someone can compare the black magic with luxilon 4g?

Yea, i hit with both. to me, Luxilon 4g was superior string. had more pop than Black magic. They both had good control, but with Luxilon 4G, i could get that extra power i need to put the ball away from difficult positions. where with black magic, when i try to get that extra zip on my shot, i was losing control and balls would go wide or long--ie, hitting shots on the run.

Perhaps this is due to superior ability for spin production of Luxilon 4G string that keeps the ball in the court when going for extra power. Overall, they are both very soft and arm friendly strings, with Luxilon being superior quality.

but you do have to keep price differential in mind. Luxilon 4G does cost a little more so maybe that makes these two strings about even. You be the judge.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by purple-n-gold

Naw...no way it holds tension better than 4G. I like BM and can get @ 8 useful hours but its performance drops off at 3-4 hr mark. My first set of 4G got 10 really good hours and I still have it in one of my frames, granted it's dead but has 20hrs on it. BM has that plastic feeling when its dead the 4G does not.

Also Agree with this post. Luxilon 4G played with original fresh strung quality of shot production much longer than BM. I say about 10-16 hours. just depends on how heavy you hit the ball, i think.

[Rabbit]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

but you do have to keep price differential in mind. Luxilon 4G does cost a little more so maybe that makes these two strings about even. You be the judge.

A little more

4G is $16.95/set and $245/reel

BM is $7.90/set and $89.90/reel

That's twice the price for a set and three times the price of a reel!

lol

[bad_call]

Originally Posted by Rabbit

A little more

4G is $16.95/set and $245/reel

BM is $7.90/set and $89.90/reel

That's twice the price for a set and three times the price of a reel!

lol

for the math/logic challenged...buy 4G sets.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by bad_call

for the math/logic challenged...buy 4G sets.

yea but if can keep the 4G on your racket twice as long as BM then isn't the price differential worth it ?

[Torres]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

yea but if can keep the 4G on your racket twice as long as BM then isn't the price differential worth it ?

Most people in the blind string test thought that 4G was disctinctly average. Some people thought it played like crap. If you want to keep an average or crap string in your racquet for twice as long and for almost 3 times the price, then thats up you. Also the pros seem to be using it not as a full bed but as a hybrid, or as a cross with natural gut mains, and its not as if Serena wasn't spraying the ball all over the place in the USO final with her setup.

Put the cost of gut into the equation, and you're looking at something that's 6 times the price, with the strings having to be cut out when the poly cross dies. Doesn't make sense does it? Then again, you don't say much that makes sense.

[rodrigoamaral]

Originally Posted by Rabbit

A little more

4G is $16.95/set and $245/reel

BM is $7.90/set and $89.90/reel

That's twice the price for a set and three times the price of a reel!

lol

Did you forget that Fedace/Nostradamus went to Stanford??? They teach you that 1+1= 4, at least at the Stanford that he went to.... I just hope he wasn't a Math major there..

Back on topic, this is a great string and has an excellent price/performance ratio... not my string of choice due to its softness but a good string for sure

[purple-n-gold]

Purchased my 4G for @ $12/set for the record.

[bad_call]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

yea but if can keep the 4G on your racket twice as long as BM then isn't the price differential worth it ?

yeah...that's kinda what i would do. how bout u?

[bad_call]

Originally Posted by purple-n-gold

Purchased my 4G for @ $12/set for the record.

now that's the way to shop.

[drakulie]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

yea but if can keep the 4G on your racket twice as long as BM then isn't the price differential worth it ?

You can't, they snap at about the same time.

[bad_call]

Originally Posted by drakulie

You can't they snap at about the same time.

Originally Posted by purple-n-gold

Naw...no way it holds tension better than 4G. I like BM and can get @ 8 useful hours but its performance drops off at 3-4 hr mark. My first set of 4G got 10 really good hours and I still have it in one of my frames, granted it's dead but has 20hrs on it. BM has that plastic feeling when its dead the 4G does not.

hmmm.........

[drakulie]

Originally Posted by bad_call

hmmm.........

Yeah, that's a perfect example of someone who should be using multis or other synthetics, not poly strings.

[bad_call]

Originally Posted by drakulie

Yeah, that's a perfect example of someone who should be using multis or other synthetics, not poly strings.

who? ...purple-n-gold?

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by rodrigoamaral

Did you forget that Fedace/Nostradamus went to Stanford??? They teach you that 1+1= 4, at least at the Stanford that he went to.... I just hope he wasn't a Math major there..

Back on topic, this is a great string and has an excellent price/performance ratio... not my string of choice due to its softness but a good string for sure

I think you mean Standford.

[drakulie]

Originally Posted by bad_call

who? ...purple-n-gold?

I would say that anyone wha has a poly in their racquet for 20 hours of play is simply isnt getting the benefit of the string. As we all know, poly dies long before that mark. Secondly, to get the main benefit of a poly (spin), one has to have very high swing speed, which would most of the time result in the poly breaking long before it has come close to 20 hours.

[purple-n-gold]

I've been testing strings and rotate 3 sticks during play. Not playing with the old 4G but I would quess it had around 15 hrs on it, mostly doubles play. FWIW went through syn gut and multi jobs in a week a few yrs ago,only playing 2-3xweek hence the need of a more durable main, as well to tame ALL my power

[Gus88]

Originally Posted by Murray_fan1

Any Black Magic fans have a chance to hit with Solinco Outlast? Two hours in, and I must say it as very similar playing characteristics to BM. I would be interested in hearing what others have to say.

close call, but i have to say outlast over BM.

[purple-n-gold]

Originally Posted by drakulie

You can't, they snap at about the same time.

so how long does it take you to snap poly jolly??