Why Laver didnt win a slam after 1969?

[hoodjem]

The GOAT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJPx...eature=related

[Limpinhitter]

Originally Posted by hoodjem

The GOAT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJPx...eature=related

A great singer and somewhat forgotten virtuoso jazz pianist.

PS: I urge you to listen to the other links I posted. You won't be disappointed.

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by hoodjem

Allow me to recommend opus 109 (Gesangvoll, mit innigster Empfindung Andante, molto cantabile ed espressivo) as the finest piano composition by the Wiener Visionär.

hoodjem,

I love Schubert's piano music even almost more than the great Beethoven piano music: sonatas and impromptus.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

kiki, very reasonable analysis.

A few comments: I believe that 1970 to 1973 did not have clear cut No.1 players.

I rank Rosewall, Laver and Newcombe No.1 for 1970.

Smith, Newcombe and Rosewall for 1971.

Nastase and Smith for 1972 . I omit Rosewall!

Nastase and Newcombe for 1973. Sorry no Kodes...

Kodes won the Wimbledon title over a field that included Nastase, the recent french Champion...don´t forget that.

[pc1]

Originally Posted by kiki

Kodes won the Wimbledon title over a field that included Nastase, the recent french Champion...don´t forget that.

Kiki,

That fact has been drummed into everyone's minds by you.

But I don't think Kodes was number one for 1973. I may disagree slightly with BobbyOne and perhaps rank Nastase number one for the year. Nastase also won the important Italian Open and the Masters at the end of the year.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by pc1

Kiki,

That fact has been drummed into everyone's minds by you.

But I don't think Kodes was number one for 1973. I may disagree slightly with BobbyOne and perhaps rank Nastase number one for the year. Nastase also won the important Italian Open and the Masters at the end of the year.

Kodes is as good a choice as Nastase, but I agree Nastase´s peak is better than Kodes one.

Similar to Budge´s peak higher than...Vines?

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

hoodjem,

I love Schubert's piano music even almost more than the great Beethoven piano music: sonatas and impromptus.

hoodjem,

But I forgot to mention that IMO Schubert composed the very greatest piano work: the "Fantasie für Klavier zu 4 Händen" (two players) D 940. This music brings me often to tears....

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by kiki

Kodes won the Wimbledon title over a field that included Nastase, the recent french Champion...don´t forget that.

But he did not meet him.

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by pc1

Kiki,

That fact has been drummed into everyone's minds by you.

But I don't think Kodes was number one for 1973. I may disagree slightly with BobbyOne and perhaps rank Nastase number one for the year. Nastase also won the important Italian Open and the Masters at the end of the year.

pc1,

Yes , Nastase was great that year but Newcombe won two majors including the N.1 tournament of the year plus the Davis Cup. For me a "classical" situation to rank them both No.1.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

But he did not meet him.

and whose fault was it, Kodes or Nastase?

[kiki]

All time greats:

Davis,Parker,Monk,Blakney,Coltrane,Jones,Rollins,W illiams,Cole,Fitzgerald,Metheny,Brecker,Marsalis and Hancock on clay/grass

Page,Hendrix,Van halen,Townshend,Jagger,Lennon,Waters/Barret,Mercury,Angus,Blackmore,Gilmour and, of course,John Fogerty on hard/indoors

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by kiki

and whose fault was it, Kodes or Nastase?

However, Kodes did not beat Nastase in that tournament.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

However, Kodes did not beat Nastase in that tournament.

Yes, and Mc Enroe didn´t beat Connors at the 1983 W final.So, let´s take that title off his record, he certainly did not deserve it¡¡¡

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by kiki

Yes, and Mc Enroe didn´t beat Connors at the 1983 W final.So, let´s take that title off his record, he certainly did not deserve it¡¡¡

Don't try to argue like Limpinhitter or Dan Lobb. You will not totally reach them...

I never said that Kodes' title of Wimbledon 1973 is of no worth.But it was diminished in its worth because the whole tournament was rather weak as most top players were absent and the only remaining star, Nastase, was beaten early.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

Don't try to argue like Limpinhitter or Dan Lobb. You will not totally reach them...

I never said that Kodes' title of Wimbledon 1973 is of no worth.But it was diminished in its worth because the whole tournament was rather weak as most top players were absent and the only remaining star, Nastase, was beaten early.

Borg and Connors weren´t stars, right.

Come down to our Solar System, please, for a while.

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by kiki

Borg and Connors weren´t stars, right.

Come down to our Solar System, please, for a while.

In June 1973 both Connors and Borg did not be real star players.They were seeded only 6 and 5 in that weak Wimbledon field, even behind Metreveli. But Connors finished the year on a high note though.

kiki, I just landed on earth!! It might be a great step for tennis world...(smilie)

[kiki]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

In June 1973 both Connors and Borg did not be real star players.They were seeded only 6 and 5 in that weak Wimbledon field, even behind Metreveli. But Connors finished the year on a high note though.

kiki, I just landed on earth!! It might be a great step for tennis world...(smilie)

a few month after that tournament, Borg and Connors were top five guys, winning and reaching major finals at will against a tremendously high level of opposition.And Connors had his best year ever, by the way.

Metrevali had already reached a few major semis, he was not by any means in the same league as Nastase,Connors and Borg, but a consistent and dangerous player as pro peers knew.

Did you find Nusslein in that trip overseas the Solar System'

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by kiki

a few month after that tournament, Borg and Connors were top five guys, winning and reaching major finals at will against a tremendously high level of opposition.And Connors had his best year ever, by the way.

Metrevali had already reached a few major semis, he was not by any means in the same league as Nastase,Connors and Borg, but a consistent and dangerous player as pro peers knew.

Did you find Nusslein in that trip overseas the Solar System'

Borg was a top player only almost a year later when he won the French Open.

I met Hans ("Hanne") Nüsslein! He told me that he boycotts kiki's posts because kiki once called him a journeyman...

[kiki]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

Borg was a top player only almost a year later when he won the French Open.

I met Hans ("Hanne") Nüsslein! He told me that he boycotts kiki's posts because kiki once called him a journeyman...

But he was a very well paid journeyman, isn´t it?

[pc1]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

Borg was a top player only almost a year later when he won the French Open.

I met Hans ("Hanne") Nüsslein! He told me that he boycotts kiki's posts because kiki once called him a journeyman...

So apparently Hans starred in this show.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0948538/



Hans was a tennis player who journeyed back in time to save players from amateur tennis.