Crank machine snapping string??! - Page 2

Roger Wawrinka · 10-06-2012, 11:01 AM

^^^^^Okay, Thanks for everyone's help!

I'll let you know the results soon.

tbuggle · 10-06-2012, 11:24 AM

your machine is a tank. if adjusted and used properly, it will not have any issues. no need to replace anything.

Irvin · 10-06-2012, 11:59 AM

Turning the screw in either direction doe not open or close the gripper. If you screen it in the end of the screw hits the plates sooner and limits the travel so the gripper will not close as far. If you screw it out the gripper travels farther. The farther is travels when tension is pulled the more it closes down on the string.

Roger Wawrinka · 10-06-2012, 05:51 PM

Okay guys, I strung two racquets for my client. The good side to this is no string snapped. The bad side.....everytime I pulled tension, the string was scuffed on that part. Basically, the string was scuffed on very many parts of the racquet. I did turn the screw clockwise but that did not seem to help the scuffing. So I gave my client his racquet's and he was okay with everything. I told him that the scuffing should not be there, but did tell him that it should not make a difference in the play of the strings. Anyway, I just charged him a little less then half of what his normal string job costs but that's okay. So I still do not know what I need to do with my neos, help please:/

COPEY · 10-06-2012, 08:13 PM

From what I can tell you already have a few reasonable options. (1) Send the crank tensioner in for repair or (2) spring for a Wise tensioner.

For what it's worth, I was one of those people who figured a Wise would be overkill, an unecessary expense, something I really didn't need. It wasn't the price at all; I just felt my crank was easy enough and that if I purchased a Wise I wouldn't enjoy stringing any more than I already did at that time. I couldn't have been more wrong. The Wise is a great little add-on, and since you string for others it'll definitely pay for itself in no time at all.

If you do opt to purchase a Wise, at some point you should still send your crank tensioner in for repair, which will give you a reliable backup in the event you have to send the Wise in for repair.

Roger Wawrinka · 10-06-2012, 08:57 PM

Okay, thanks for the reply and info COPEY.

Irvin · 10-06-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Wawrinka

Okay guys, I strung two racquets for my client. The good side to this is no string snapped. The bad side.....everytime I pulled tension, the string was scuffed on that part. Basically, the string was scuffed on very many parts of the racquet. I did turn the screw clockwise but that did not seem to help the scuffing. So I gave my client his racquet's and he was okay with everything. I told him that the scuffing should not be there, but did tell him that it should not make a difference in the play of the strings. Anyway, I just charged him a little less then half of what his normal string job costs but that's okay. So I still do not know what I need to do with my neos, help please:/

To reduce scuffing you need to turn the screw COUNTER Clockwise. When you turn the screw clockwise the tip sticks out farther and hits the plate sooner meaning the gripper will not close as far so you string may slip more.

EDIT: I can't speak for everyone but rather than return a racket to a customer with a problem I would rather return the racket unstrung and tell them I have a stringer problem and can't string it. Why don't you just use a business card?

Roger Wawrinka · 10-07-2012, 07:41 AM

If I were to use a business card, I would just fold the card in half, and then put the card in the gripper correct? Also, is there any chance of string slipping while you have a business card in the gripper?

P.S I thought about just not stringing his racquet but just told him to see how it feels. If it's bad and he does not like it I told him I'll string it again for free. Besides, he did not even pay 7.00$ for this string job, so I think he was okay with it.

Irvin · 10-08-2012, 12:56 PM

Well do matter what you do yes it could slip but if you use a business card it won't damage the string.

pvaudio · 10-10-2012, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Irvin

Turning the screw in either direction doe not open or close the gripper. If you screen it in the end of the screw hits the plates sooner and limits the travel so the gripper will not close as far. If you screw it out the gripper travels farther. The farther is travels when tension is pulled the more it closes down on the string.

This. The adjustment screw on crank machines doesn't open or close the gripper as it seems that it does. At least it didn't on the two I had.

Irvin · 10-10-2012, 07:24 AM

^^That because it is not an adjustment actually. It is a stop screw the tighter you make it (turning clockwise) the more the stop sticks out and the less travel you get. As the gripper travels it closes the less it travels the loser it is.

fortun8son · 10-10-2012, 12:55 PM

Just for clarification.
Are we talking about scuffing from too loose, or ghosting?
Some strings, like Sensation or natgut, will ghost no matter what you do.
That bothered me at first(still does,really), but I've learned to live with it.

Roger Wawrinka · 10-10-2012, 03:30 PM

Okay guys, I turned the screw counter-clock wise and clock wise. Irvin, I know you told me to turn it counter clock wise to start with, but I turned it clock wise just to see what would happen. Well, I'm running out of ideas, the tensioner is still scuffing the string, I need help fast. I have been telling my clients that I am having problems with my stringer and that I will do their racquets as soon as I get it fixed.

So please, I really need help.

R.W

MAX PLY · 10-10-2012, 06:10 PM

The business card trick should work to keep you from scuffing the string--just fold it in half and place the creased side (the V) in the tensioner--put the string in that V and you will be set for the sticks you currently have. How old is your stringer--either call Prince or tennis machines and see if you can get another head while yours gets fixed. Still puzzled at this problem.

Roger Wawrinka · 10-17-2012, 03:41 PM

Okay, sorry I have not gotten back to all of you about this problem, but the gripper is still scuffing, and the business card will not fit in the gripper if you fold it into a V. I even tried adjusting the screw and nothing happened.

jim e · 10-17-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Wawrinka

Okay, sorry I have not gotten back to all of you about this problem, but the gripper is still scuffing, and the business card will not fit in the gripper if you fold it into a V. I even tried adjusting the screw and nothing happened.

Well Roger, if you sent it to tennis machines dot com and had it serviced like I told you about 2 weeks ago, you would have received it back by now and back in buisness.Each day without it you are loosing buisness, but its your buisness.

Roger Wawrinka · 10-17-2012, 07:59 PM

^Normally I would be losing business, luckily my close friend who is very into the tennis world having played on the futures circuit for a couple years has a prince neos 1000. So he has been a saint for letting me take it from him until I get my problem squared away.

jim e · 10-18-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger Wawrinka

^Normally I would be losing business, luckily my close friend who is very into the tennis world having played on the futures circuit for a couple years has a prince neos 1000. So he has been a saint for letting me take it from him until I get my problem squared away.

Since you have a machine to use presently, I would make use of this time that you have with your friends machine, and send the tension head of your machine out asap to get it serviced so you will not be having your friends machine tied up with you for a long time.You are lucky to have someone to loan you a machine.
Since it has been 2 weeks already and you still have issues, why wait any longer to resolve the issue?Just send it out for service unless you plan on purchasing another machine or your friend does not mind you keeping his, but thats just taking advantage of his thoughtfulness.

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Originally Posted by Roger Wawrinka;6946715I

need help fast. I have been telling my clients that I am having problems with my stringer and that I will do their racquets as soon as I get it fixed.
So please, I really need help.
R.W

Also since you said this comment above, your comment on having your friends stringer does not go along with that statement at all, as if you have your friends stringer you would not be telling your clients that you have problems. Looks like your story is just that a story, while good folks here are trying to help.

bugeyed · 10-18-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jim e

Since you have a machine to use presently, I would make use of this time that you have with your friends machine, and send the tension head of your machine out asap to get it serviced so you will not be having your friends machine tied up with you for a long time.You are lucky to have someone to loan you a machine.
Since it has been 2 weeks already and you still have issues, why wait any longer to resolve the issue?Just send it out for service unless you plan on purchasing another machine or your friend does not mind you keeping his, but thats just taking advantage of his thoughtfulness.

Nag, nag, nag!

Cheers,
kev

mad dog1 · 10-18-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jim e

Since you have a machine to use presently, I would make use of this time that you have with your friends machine, and send the tension head of your machine out asap to get it serviced so you will not be having your friends machine tied up with you for a long time.You are lucky to have someone to loan you a machine.
Since it has been 2 weeks already and you still have issues, why wait any longer to resolve the issue?Just send it out for service unless you plan on purchasing another machine or your friend does not mind you keeping his, but thats just taking advantage of his thoughtfulness.

jim e, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. common sense would dictate this is the action to take. but i think NJ1's post might be applicable here.

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Originally Posted by NJ1

Common sense? We're talking about Talk Tennis posters here.

10-06-2012, 11:59 AM	#23
Irvin Legend Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Marietta, Ga Posts: 6,974	Turning the screw in either direction doe not open or close the gripper. If you screen it in the end of the screw hits the plates sooner and limits the travel so the gripper will not close as far. If you screw it out the gripper travels farther. The farther is travels when tension is pulled the more it closes down on the string. __________________ Irvin - I wish Facebook would notify me when people delete me so I can 'Like it'

10-06-2012, 05:51 PM	#24
Roger Wawrinka Semi-Pro Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 525	Okay guys, I strung two racquets for my client. The good side to this is no string snapped. The bad side.....everytime I pulled tension, the string was scuffed on that part. Basically, the string was scuffed on very many parts of the racquet. I did turn the screw clockwise but that did not seem to help the scuffing. So I gave my client his racquet's and he was okay with everything. I told him that the scuffing should not be there, but did tell him that it should not make a difference in the play of the strings. Anyway, I just charged him a little less then half of what his normal string job costs but that's okay. So I still do not know what I need to do with my neos, help please:/ Last edited by Roger Wawrinka : 10-06-2012 at 05:55 PM.

10-06-2012, 08:13 PM	#25
COPEY Professional Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,398	From what I can tell you already have a few reasonable options. (1) Send the crank tensioner in for repair or (2) spring for a Wise tensioner. For what it's worth, I was one of those people who figured a Wise would be overkill, an unecessary expense, something I really didn't need. It wasn't the price at all; I just felt my crank was easy enough and that if I purchased a Wise I wouldn't enjoy stringing any more than I already did at that time. I couldn't have been more wrong. The Wise is a great little add-on, and since you string for others it'll definitely pay for itself in no time at all. If you do opt to purchase a Wise, at some point you should still send your crank tensioner in for repair, which will give you a reliable backup in the event you have to send the Wise in for repair. __________________ Need help finding lost dog: walks with a limp, recently castrated, can only see out of one eye - answers to the name, "Lucky". Last edited by COPEY : 10-06-2012 at 09:07 PM.

10-08-2012, 12:56 PM	#29
Irvin Legend Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Marietta, Ga Posts: 6,974	Well do matter what you do yes it could slip but if you use a business card it won't damage the string. __________________ Irvin - I wish Facebook would notify me when people delete me so I can 'Like it'

10-10-2012, 07:24 AM	#31
Irvin Legend Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Marietta, Ga Posts: 6,974	^^That because it is not an adjustment actually. It is a stop screw the tighter you make it (turning clockwise) the more the stop sticks out and the less travel you get. As the gripper travels it closes the less it travels the loser it is. __________________ Irvin - I wish Facebook would notify me when people delete me so I can 'Like it'