Raonic, clearly the next guy to break through and win a slam. - Page 5

Carsomyr · 10-07-2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Evan77

disappointed with Mugonic today and kudos to Kei. I said earlier, go easy on Milos with all of these GS predictions etc. meh. Raonic has no business losing to Kei ... just pathetic.

What shame is it losing to a talented player on his home turf?

Carsomyr · 10-07-2012, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zarfot Z

Got beaten down by Nishikori today.

All hopes of RaoRao becoming a future GS champion dashed...

The GS fate of a 21 year old rests on the final of a 500 event?

The Bawss · 10-07-2012, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Evan77

disappointed with Mugonic today and kudos to Kei. I said earlier, go easy on Milos with all of these GS predictions etc. meh. Raonic has no business losing to Kei ... just pathetic.

Well, Kei has won a 500 event. How many 500s has clownic won? How about slam QFs? Come on, the guy is 6ft5 of pure joke.

Russeljones · 10-07-2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Carsomyr

The GS fate of a 21 year old rests on the final of a 500 event?

You're joking right?

President · 10-07-2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Evan77

disappointed with Mugonic today and kudos to Kei. I said earlier, go easy on Milos with all of these GS predictions etc. meh. Raonic has no business losing to Kei ... just pathetic.

LOL Raonic has the serve but Nishikori is better in every other area of the game. Great return of serve and overall amazing baseline game. He should be top 10 pretty soon.

Marius_Hancu · 10-07-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by syc23

Murray didn't get spanked. He gave it away.

Just like in Barcelona? Choking

sureshs · 10-07-2012, 07:32 AM

Nishikori definitely the GOAT

tacou · 10-07-2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Carsomyr

The GS fate of a 21 year old rests on the final of a 500 event?

it rested on a semi final win, why not a final loss?

*Sparkle* · 10-07-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dangalak

Excuses.

Not really. I wasn't explaining away why he didn't win today, as I think Kei won fair and square with excellent tennis.

It's more a case of trying to gauge where he is with his overall game and what's getting in his way. Today's score to me makes it look like he ran out of gas, and people are saying that's because of a couple of tough three-setters. If he is to progress, he can't be worn out by a couple of tough three-setters in a 500.

If he is to get the wins to be a regular in the top ten he'll be playing more matches, and tougher matches. Everyone was getting excited that he was moving around the court more than ever before, but with improved court coverage comes increased energy expenditure.

In that respect, his fitness/stamina may be the next thing he has to work on if he hopes to play to his potential when he makes it to his next final.

dangalak · 10-07-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by *Sparkle*

Not really. I wasn't explaining away why he didn't win today, as I think Kei won fair and square with excellent tennis.

It's more a case of trying to gauge where he is with his overall game and what's getting in his way. Today's score to me makes it look like he ran out of gas, and people are saying that's because of a couple of tough three-setters. If he is to progress, he can't be worn out by a couple of tough three-setters in a 500.

If he is to get the wins to be a regular in the top ten he'll be playing more matches, and tougher matches. Everyone was getting excited that he was moving around the court more than ever before, but with improved court coverage comes increased energy expenditure.

In that respect, his fitness/stamina may be the next thing he has to work on if he hopes to play to his potential when he makes it to his next final.

I watched the match, he simply missed too many BHs and Nishikori was returning his serve like a boss. Not to mention his backhand and his passing shots.

syc23 · 10-07-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Marius_Hancu

Just like in Barcelona? Choking

64 64 62 USO baby

Murray won the important match between them this year. Anyway, Andy was playing with a dodgy back...on his worst surface.

What was Raonic's excuse when he was spanked in front of the world on AA?

Ellipses · 10-07-2012, 09:35 AM

I'm not sure Raonic will ever be a slam winner, but what I am certain about is that he isn't a "joke" or a "doofus". The guy is 15th in the world and was in the final of a 500 event that went 3 sets. Maybe we're all spoiled by the likes of Nadal and Federer and Djokovic but that is quite an accomplishment.

I don't get why this needs to get personal and childish. "Mugonic", "Clownic", really? Are we back in the second grade here?

That said, kudos to Kei Nishikori. Great win in front of the home crowd. I only caught the first set but he looked good. He has a bright future as well.

kishnabe · 10-07-2012, 09:41 AM

This is the next Murray will get destroyed thread.

Each time Milosh fails.....this will be necrofried.

Marius_Hancu · 10-07-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by syc23

What was Raonic's excuse when he was spanked in front of the world on AA?

He was a lord, went to Murray and congratulated him. And smiled.

Compare with the poor, poor show Murray did in their last match.

And remember: it's 2-1, and the last was won by Raonic. He's beating him on all surfaces. Showing him who's boss.

Fedex · 10-07-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Marius_Hancu

He was a lord, went to Murray and congratulated him. And smiled.

Raonic seems to be a very good sport.
Gracious in defeat from what I've seen.

Clarky21 · 10-07-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Marius_Hancu

He was a lord, went to Murray and congratulated him. And smiled.

Compare with the poor, poor show Murray did in their last match.

And remember: it's 2-1, and the last was won by Raonic. He's beating him on all surfaces. Showing him who's boss.

When did Raonic beat Andy on grass?

Mainad · 10-07-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Marius_Hancu

And remember: it's 2-1, and the last was won by Raonic. He's beating him on all surfaces. Showing him who's boss.

He'll need to beat him at the really big events ie. Slams and Masters before he can stake a claim to being 'his boss'.

He deserved his win against Murray yesterday but it has to be said that Murray probably should have won it. It is highly unusual for him to squander a 4-1 lead in the final set of a match and then miss a fairly straightforward backhand return on the second match point.

Nevertheless, he has re-established himself as one of only 4 top players to have a positive H2H v Murray (the others being Nadal,Djokovic and Berdych) and the only lesser ranked player to do so along with Berdych. Kudos to him for that.

batz · 10-07-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mainad

He'll need to beat him at the really big events ie. Slams and Masters before he can stake a claim to being 'his boss'.

He deserved his win against Murray yesterday but it has to be said that Murray probably should have won it. It is highly unusual for him to squander a 4-1 lead in the final set of a match and then miss a fairly straightforward backhand return on the second match point.

Nevertheless, he has re-established himself as one of only 4 top players to have a positive H2H v Murray (the others being Nadal,Djokovic and Berdych) and the only lesser ranked player to do so along with Berdych. Kudos to him for that.

I think Kohly is 'a top player' - he's certainly top 20. He also has a positive H2H with Murray.

cc0509 · 10-07-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marius_Hancu

He was a lord, went to Murray and congratulated him. And smiled.

Compare with the poor, poor show Murray did in their last match.

And remember: it's 2-1, and the last was won by Raonic. He's beating him on all surfaces. Showing him who's boss.

Let's not get carried away. I am a Raonic fan but he has a long way to go to be the boss of Murray. He will have to beat Murray in a slam for it to really mean a lot. With that said it was a great win over Murray but then he went and blew it and lost the match to Nishikori to win the tournament. Raonic's problem is he can get a big win or two but then he can't go the distance and beat the next top guy to win the tournament. He is going to have to change that pattern if he wants to really get somewhere.

Mainad · 10-07-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by batz

I think Kohly is 'a top player' - he's certainly top 20. He also has a positive H2H with Murray.

Forgot about him. They only ever played the one match though didn't they?

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sureshs Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 25,867	Nishikori definitely the GOAT