Who will end the year as number 1?

[batz]

Originally Posted by RogerFan1991

Yeah, it is as difficult as last year....and Federer pulled it off, and everybody knows Roger loves indoor tennis, he's best indoor player today, and far better than djokovic, so why not think about it?

No he didn't. I don't even remember the last time Roger played 3 weeks back to back, let alone won 3 weeks back to back - no doubt he has probably done it, but not many times. It's not something that happens very often.

[Romismak]

Originally Posted by RogerFan1991

First, Federer has played just 7 more matches than last year as of this date; second, Federer may not be so tired physicaly, because he hasnt played in 3 weeks, he lost early in the US Open, where he just played 4 matches, and all of those were short, he won cincinnati with an acumulated of 6 hours, loosing no sets, all pretty fast matches, and he didnt play toronto. He may yes be tired mentally, but that goes for djokovic too, and in fact, who may yes be much more tired is Djokovic, who played this week, reched us open final, where he had to play 5 sets, he played consecutively olympics, toronto and cicninnati.....so im gonna leave this by your judgment.

And one more thing, im sure federer feels more uncomfortable playing tsonga than djokovic in indoors, believe me. So dont think this year there's better competition, maybe different competion.

I mean, dont just be so confident because you may receive a big and swiss surprise in the end.

Yes he played more matches at this point than last year, he is 1 year older again - harder to regenerate and so on so on.. he won´t be as fresh for indoor season he was 2010-2011 - that´s just fact.

Competition will be tougher, simply Nole wasn´t there last year, this year he will be there - yes he played a lot, but he can handle it in 2009 he played most matches on tour and won Basel, Paris, won 2/3 matches at WTF just set-games differential stopped him from advance from RR group

Murray will be as good as last indoor season if not better, Tsonga-Berdych should be fine indoors with their games - with no wind there are both top 5 indoors

Rafa is irrelevant indoors so doesn´t matter he is not here. So competition will be at least little bit tougher if you want or not those are facts

Yes i am confident to say Roger won´t win Basel, Paris, WTF - i am 100% sure about it, 31 year old guy who has play a lot alredy in this season won´win 15 matches - or 14 i am not sure if BAsel is 4 or 5 match tournament for top seeded - simply Roger won´t win 14-15 matches in 3 weeks at hig age and with Nole, Andy, Berdych,Tsonga around, either Andy-Nole will exhaust him in long rallies one match or Tsonga-Berdych will blow him off the court or he just will skip-tank Paris- which is not so unrealistic if you think about it.

[batz]

Originally Posted by Romismak

Yes he played more matches at this point than last year, he is 1 year older again - harder to regenerate and so on so on.. he won´t be as fresh for indoor season he was 2010-2011 - that´s just fact.

Competition will be tougher, simply Nole wasn´t there last year, this year he will be there - yes he played a lot, but he can handle it in 2009 he played most matches on tour and won Basel, Paris, won 2/3 matches at WTF just set-games differential stopped him from advance from RR group

Murray will be as good as last indoor season if not better, Tsonga-Berdych should be fine indoors with their games - with no wind there are both top 5 indoors

Rafa is irrelevant indoors so doesn´t matter he is not here. So competition will be at least little bit tougher if you want or not those are facts

Yes i am confident to say Roger won´t win Basel, Paris, WTF - i am 100% sure about it, 31 year old guy who has play a lot alredy in this season won´win 15 matches - or 14 i am not sure if BAsel is 4 or 5 match tournament for top seeded - simply Roger won´t win 14-15 matches in 3 weeks at hig age and with Nole, Andy, Berdych,Tsonga around, either Andy-Nole will exhaust him in long rallies one match or Tsonga-Berdych will blow him off the court or he just will skip-tank Paris- which is not so unrealistic if you think about it.

Someone seems to have forgot that Roger skipped the entire Asian swing last year in order to have enough in the tank for his indoor treble.

Roger might win Shanghai then play and win 3 seeks back to back after only 1 week off - but I really don't think it's likely.

[Sartorius]

A quick look at the points race is telling, it's mostly in Djokovic's hands. Federer will want to keep it of course but he has actually said that his goal was to recapture the ranking and not necessarily retain it, and he achieved that goal. It would be more exciting if Federer was still looking to get it back.

[Romismak]

Originally Posted by batz

Someone seems to have forgot that Roger skipped the entire Asian swing last year in order to have enough in the tank for his indoor treble.

Roger might win Shanghai then play and win 3 seeks back to back after only 1 week off - but I really don't think it's likely.

I haven´t forget i know that he didn´t play Shanghai last year, my point was he played more matches at this point and is older than he was 1 year ago - Shangha is just another factor here - he won´t be as fresh for indoor season for more than 1 reason.

Winning Shanghai and than indoor event - 4tournaments in 5 weeks at his age vs all younger guys - isn´t happening - 0% chance

[RogerFan1991]

Originally Posted by Romismak

I haven´t forget i know that he didn´t play Shanghai last year, my point was he played more matches at this point and is older than he was 1 year ago - Shangha is just another factor here - he won´t be as fresh for indoor season for more than 1 reason.

Winning Shanghai and than indoor event - 4tournaments in 5 weeks at his age vs all younger guys - isn´t happening - 0% chance

Where did you buy that crystal ball??? I want one.

[Romismak]

Originally Posted by RogerFan1991

Where did you buy that crystal ball??? I want one.

Now honestly besides that you are Roger´s fan just by name i assume.

I like Roger too, but it won´t happen. Also Nole won´t win everything no way. To many matches in short period of time at this time of the year when everyone of top gyus must feel something - pain, tiredness after logn season and so on, just can´t see Roger or anybody else to either win 3 weeks in row all indoor events or including Shanghai win 4 events in 5 weeks.

[RogerFan1991]

Originally Posted by Romismak

Now honestly besides that you are Roger´s fan just by name i assume.

I like Roger too, but it won´t happen. Also Nole won´t win everything no way. To many matches in short period of time at this time of the year when everyone of top gyus must feel something - pain, tiredness after logn season and so on, just can´t see Roger or anybody else to either win 3 weeks in row all indoor events or including Shanghai win 4 events in 5 weeks.

Who is saying federer is gonna win all those tournaments? Im not saying that, the fact is that roger doesnt need to win everything to end as number 1.

But, however, i would not be surprised if federer won 3 this last 4 tournaments, this has been his best surface the last two years.

[Hood_Man]

I suspect that Roger's improved success during the indoor season the past two years, had a lot to do with his relatively poorer results earlier in both seasons. Or to put it another way, he was more rested.

This year he's had a very busy season, and if he intends to end the year as #1 he'll end the year with something close to 90 matches played.

I think Novak will take it, but I think Federer may very well push himself hard to try and hold him off. I just don't think he'll do it.

[EDIT]

Before I get called out on this... I'm not saying he's not awesome indoors, he clearly is. But I think his success this year might be a disadvantage at this point of the season. Possibly...

[Evan77]

33 votes from delusional Fed brigade 'fans/*****' who are pretty clueless as usual. All most of them know is to worship their Goddess Federina. If we opened a new poll 'Who has the most beautiful nose on the ATP tour', I'm sure Noserer would win that one too.

At least Romismak got it right, being very neutral and realistic.

[Romismak]

Originally Posted by RogerFan1991

Who is saying federer is gonna win all those tournaments? Im not saying that, the fact is that roger doesnt need to win everything to end as number 1.

But, however, i would not be surprised if federer won 3 this last 4 tournaments, this has been his best surface the last two years.

I am just saying he won´t win 3/3 indoors that´s all.

[Romismak]

Originally Posted by Evan77

33 votes from delusional Fed brigade 'fans/*****' who are pretty clueless as usual. All most of them know is to worship their Goddess Federina. If we opened a new poll 'Who has the most beautiful nose on the ATP tour', I'm sure Noserer would win that one too.

At least Romismak got it right, being very neutral and realistic.

Thanks, and yes i am neutral i like both of them-funny reason besides gamestyles- i am slovak and Roger´s wife is slovak too and well Vajda is well knows too i think - so i really am neutral here and saying what i think how it looks like. Everyone has his own opinion, but reallistically 1500 points lead in race with 4000 points left with 4 tournaments in 5 weeks and 3 in 3 weeks under all those circumstances i wrote - Nole is clear favorite to YE No.1 that´all. And yes Roger can be YE No.1 - there is chance small but there is, but don´t believe in 3/3 indoors and defninitely not all 4 remaining titles for Roger from 4 tournaments

[Evan77]

Originally Posted by Romismak

Thanks, and yes i am neutral i like both of them-funny reason besides gamestyles- i am slovak and Roger´s wife is slovak too and well Vajda is well knows too i think - so i really am neutral here and saying what i think how it looks like. Everyone has his own opinion, but reallistically 1500 points lead in race with 4000 points left with 4 tournaments in 5 weeks and 3 in 3 weeks under all those circumstances i wrote - Nole is clear favorite to YE No.1 that´all. And yes Roger can be YE No.1 - there is chance small but there is, but don´t believe in 3/3 indoors and defninitely not all 4 remaining titles for Roger from 4 tournaments

well, exactly. everything you said is correct. I know that Fed has a small chance, but it is very, very small and not very likely, so unless Djokovic breaks both of his arms and legs it ain't gonna happen.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by Evan77

well, exactly. everything you said is correct. I know that Fed has a small chance, but it is very, very small and not very likely, so unless Djokovic breaks both of his arms and legs it ain't gonna happen.

Evan77, my friend, don't lose your time, let him believe that 31yrs old Fed is going to win 15 matches in 3 consecutive weeks.....

[Ico]

I don't know for sure who will end up YE#1, but whoever wins the WTF among Federer, Djokovic, and Murray would be my pick for Player of the Year.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by Ico

I don't know for sure who will end up YE#1, but whoever wins the WTF among Federer, Djokovic, and Murray would be my pick for Player of the Year.

Well Federer and Djok won WTF before, so this year i'm hoping for Murray....

[Evan77]

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style

Evan77, my friend, don't lose your time, let him believe that 31yrs old Fed is going to win 15 matches in 3 consecutive weeks.....

Gonzo, I know. I just wish that all of us on this board, as tennis lovers, would be more realistic/neutral instead of projecting our wishful thinking as some cyber reality. the matter of rankings is a very simple math. it's really not that difficult. I just get irritated when some guys on TW use extremely flawed logic to worship their favorite players without making any/or very little sense.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by Evan77

Gonzo, I know. I just wish that all of us on this board, as tennis lovers, would be more realistic/neutral instead of projecting our wishful thinking as some cyber reality. the matter of rankings is a very simple math. it's really not that difficult. I just get irritated when some guys on TW use extremely flawed logic to worship their favorite players without making any/or very little sense.

That would be tennis Utopia, but ain't gonna happen

[Evan77]

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style

That would be tennis Utopia, but ain't gonna happen

lol, I'm afraid you are right again. I'll try to be positive here. At least TW is not as bad as MTF which is a complete jungle full of teenagers who started watching tennis like yesterday. I go there once in a while to get entertained by some fantastic gems . MTF never disappoints me. The level of stupidity going on there is just beyond me, although there are some super smart guys there but it's like 5% or so.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by Evan77

lol, I'm afraid you are right again. I'll try to be positive here. At least TW is not as bad as MTF which is a complete jungle full of teenagers who started watching tennis like yesterday. I go there once in a while to get entertained by some fantastic gems . MTF never disappoints me. The level of stupidity going on there is just beyond me, although there are some super smart guys there but it's like 5% or so.

Yes i'm read TTW and MTF very long, MTF is tennis circus!