federer as a clay courter

[90's Clay]

Third tier clay talent.. Behind Guga, Lendl, Borg, Nadal, Vilas. Rosewall, Wilander and probably a few others.

I got Fed in the Bruguera, Courier, Muster territory.. That might even be generous. Muster at his peak was WAY better then Fed on clay at his peak. Courier was probably just as good as fed on clay at his peak.. So was Bruguera

[kishnabe]

Top 10(lower end like 9 or 10) for sure.

Would be Number 1 if it weren't for that meddiling Spannish Bulldog Nadal.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

Top 10(lower end like 9 or 10) for sure.

Would be Number 1 if it weren't for that meddiling Spannish Bulldog Nadal.

Cry me a river

[The Bawss]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

Of course I think that, why do you think I ranked Federer ahead with 1 less French Open title, since I think Courier would walk over him, LOL! Likewise Federer would in no way walk over prime Courier on clay as easily as the ****s on this forum think though. It would be a tough battle, although I will say Courier at the 92 French was better than any tournament Federer played on clay IMO.

No. Either you didn't watch tennis in the 90s and are just regurgitating crap you heard some old people with rose-tinted glasses say or you just don't have the ability to recognise Fed is a superior talent to Courier, even on the red stuff. What did Courier have that could have hurt Fed? An ok forehand. That's it. He doesn't possess the same weapons as Nadal (leftie serve, big leftie crosscourt topspin forehand, incredible defence). If they had met on clay it would have been 4 sets a la Fed Djokovic 2011 all day, every day.

[smoledman]

Federer should be the highest ranked 1-time FO winner.

[smoledman]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Third tier clay talent.. Behind Guga, Lendl, Borg, Nadal, Vilas. Rosewall, Wilander and probably a few others.

I got Fed in the Bruguera, Courier, Muster territory.. That might even be generous. Muster at his peak was WAY better then Fed on clay at his peak. Courier was probably just as good as fed on clay at his peak.. So was Bruguera

You're forgetting the main point. If Federer only wanted to be a clay warrior, he would have posted much better results. But he wanted to be great in the 2nd half of the season too.

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by smoledman

Federer should be the highest ranked 1-time FO winner.

That goes without saying. He ranks above most 2- time winners, too.

[smoledman]

Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth

That goes without saying. He ranks above most 2- time winners, too.

No way. 10 chars

[BauerAlmeida]

1-Nadal
2-Borg
3-Kuerten
4-Lendl
5-Vilas
6-Federer
7-Wilander
8-Muster
9-Courier
10-Don't know....

Aren't Federer's 5 straight RG SF a record in the open era? And if it wasn't for Nadal he would have like 5 RG.

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth

Top 15, definitely, top 10, probably. Never really gave it too much thought, though.

If we are talking 2003-2008 among players of his generation, he could easily make top 20.

[90's Clay]

Originally Posted by BauerAlmeida

1-Nadal
2-Borg
3-Kuerten
4-Lendl
5-Vilas
6-Federer
7-Wilander
8-Muster
9-Courier
10-Don't know....

Aren't Federer's 5 straight RG SF a record in the open era? And if it wasn't for Nadal he would have like 5 RG.

Did you see most of the draws he had to get to those finals??

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Did you see most of the draws he had to get to those finals??

He lacks the perception of clay - the kind of man who whiffs forehands at match point in a final in Madrid.

[dangalak]

Originally Posted by SoBad

He lacks the perception of clay - the kind of man who whiffs forehands at match point in a final in Madrid.

Do you even know what "whiffing" means?

[dangalak]

Originally Posted by The Dark Knight

So did Rafter.

1999.

[NadalDramaQueen]

Originally Posted by The Dark Knight

So did Rafter.

Speaking of beatdowns, do you remember when Roddick shoved a bagel down Rafito's throat at the US Open? Of course you don't, you haven't been watching tennis for that long.

[RF20Lennon]

Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen

Speaking of beatdowns, do you remember when Roddick shoved a bagel down Rafito's throat at the US Open? Of course you don't, you haven't been watching tennis for that long.

he served a 140 mile an hour ace to Rafa's face in that match

[dangalak]

Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen

Speaking of beatdowns, do you remember when Roddick shoved a bagel down Rafito's throat at the US Open? Of course you don't, you haven't been watching tennis for that long.

Youzhny beat Nadal 6-0,6-1, in 2008.

[RF20Lennon]

Originally Posted by dangalak

Youzhny beat Nadal 6-0,6-1, in 2008.

In Chennai right??

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by dangalak

Do you even know what "whiffing" means?

No - I was hoping someone like you would educate me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVpuMQ08qEk

[NadalDramaQueen]

Originally Posted by SoBad

No - I was hoping someone like you would educate me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVpuMQ08qEk

Do I need to post videos of Nadal falling on his behind in the clay or hitting a serve into the ground before the net?