federer as a clay courter - Page 3

SoBad · 10-08-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen

Do I need to post videos of Nadal falling on his behind in the clay or hitting a serve into the ground before the net?

How would that help dangalak explain to me the term "whiffing"?

NadalDramaQueen · 10-08-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBad

How would that help dangalak explain to me the term "whiffing"?

I don't speak for dangalak personally. Just wondering if you need some videos of Rafa looking like an buffoon on his best surface. Just let me know.

SoBad · 10-08-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen

I don't speak for dangalak personally. Just wondering if you need some videos of Rafa looking like an buffoon on his best surface. Just let me know.

All we are doing here now is trying to help dangalak, can't you see that?

Crisstti · 10-08-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

he served a 140 mile an hour ace to Rafa's face in that match

Lol, no, he didn't.

NadalDramaQueen · 10-08-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBad

All we are doing here now is trying to help dangalak, can't you see that?

Who is we?

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Originally Posted by Crisstti

Lol, no, he didn't.

No, he didn't. He hit it in Rafa's general direction and Rafa deflected it into his own face (or close enough to be pretty funny).

SoBad · 10-08-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen

Who is we?

The tennis forum community, you fresh green troll.

NadalDramaQueen · 10-08-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBad

The tennis forum community, you fresh green troll.

Ah, I thought you were suggesting that you were part of the *** army.

I am blue now, by the way.

SoBad · 10-08-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen

Ah, I thought you were suggesting that you were part of the *** army.

I am blue now, by the way.

You mean one of those Gen. Kaishek's KMT units?

Crisstti · 10-08-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen

No, he didn't. He hit it in Rafa's general direction and Rafa deflected it into his own face (or close enough to be pretty funny).

Yep. I think it did actually hit him.

Wouldn't have counted as an ace either

NadalDramaQueen · 10-08-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisstti

Yep. I think it did actually hit him.

I think so as well, but it wasn't such a big deal. By the way, I apologize for being harsh about Rafa, TDK is just getting a bit annoying. I will cut it out.

Crisstti · 10-08-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen

I think so as well, but it wasn't such a big deal. By the way, I apologize for being harsh about Rafa, TDK is just getting a bit annoying. I will cut it out.

No, I don't think either it was such a big deal. He found it hard to deal with Roddick's serve in that match. I think he was returning very close to the baseline.

TDK can do that, apparently

kragster · 10-08-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BauerAlmeida

1-Nadal
2-Borg
3-Kuerten
4-Lendl
5-Vilas
6-Federer
7-Wilander
8-Muster
9-Courier
10-Don't know....

Aren't Federer's 5 straight RG SF a record in the open era? And if it wasn't for Nadal he would have like 5 RG.

I think 6 is a good assessment. Federer did run into the clay goat, however we can't magically gift players slams based on who they faced or did not face. 1 slam + 5 finals should put him in the 2-3 slam winner range .

6 is not shabby though. # 1 on hard courts , # 1 on grass (with Sampras) and # 6 on clay. Cant think of a player who wouldnt take that resume.

jokinla · 10-08-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by big ted

how is nole ranked a better clay courter of all time than federer?

He's not, some people just don't read the OP.

TMF · 10-08-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kragster

I think 6 is a good assessment. Federer did run into the clay goat, however we can't magically gift players slams based on who they faced or did not face. 1 slam + 5 finals should put him in the 2-3 slam winner range .

6 is not shabby though. # 1 on hard courts , # 1 on grass (with Sampras) and # 6 on clay. Cant think of a player who wouldnt take that resume.

QFT. I've have him at #7.

Some people just ignore the fact that Nadal is a clay goat and he's playing in this era. Not in the 60s, 70s or 90s. Federer is 2nd best behind him, and any past player who play along with Nadal can only be 2nd best(that's include borg, lendl, guga, rosewall). Had Nadal was just an average cc and Fed doesn't have a great run since 2005, I can understand he can't be in the top 10.

Anyway, if you've posted Fed as #6 in the former pro player talk forum, the old-timers will say you're too young, too ignorant, no experience and thus not good enough to come up with assessment. Haha

big ted · 10-08-2012, 06:42 PM

well apparently rogers winning percentage at the french open is 80.6 percent which is a smidgen less than the 3+FO winners. roger has won 10 clay tournaments. lendl and wilander have won 28 and 20 respectively. so i dont think federer can be put above the 3 time champions for open era
1-nadal
2- borg
3- lendl, wilander
5- kuerten
6- vilas, muster, federer

hoodjem · 10-08-2012, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by big ted

thats true but kuerten was still a 20-30 ranked player and federer only had 2 gs tournaments under his belt at the time so i dont think the result was that shocking. bleacher report ranks federer 5th on clay of all time, giving kuerten and vilas an honorable mention
1. nadal
2. borg
3. lendl
4. wilander
5. federer

Bleacher report does NOT rank Fed as no. 5 all-time.

Here's their ranking.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...tennis-history

Here is that Bleacher list distilled for the men:
1. Nadal
2. Borg
3. Cochet
4. Lacoste
5. Wilander
6. Lendl
7. Kuerten

big ted · 10-08-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

Bleacher report does NOT rank Fed as no. 5 all-time.

Here's their ranking.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...tennis-history

Here is that Bleacher list distilled for the men:
1. Nadal
2. Borg
3. Cochet
4. Lacoste
5. Wilander
6. Lendl
7. Kuerten

they do here. i guess a different person wrote the article and ranked them different...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rs-of-all-time

RF20Lennon · 10-08-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

Bleacher report does NOT rank Fed as no. 5 all-time.

Here's their ranking.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...tennis-history

Here is that Bleacher list distilled for the men:
1. Nadal
2. Borg
3. Cochet
4. Lacoste
5. Wilander
6. Lendl
7. Kuerten

I more or less agree with the list

TennisLovaLova · 10-09-2012, 03:01 AM

the real question is : is federer > to borg on clay
judging by the titles, yes of course
but federer was denied by the clay goat nadal
so it's impossible to say really

Agassifan · 10-09-2012, 03:41 AM

*much* better than Nadal as a hard courter

10-09-2012, 03:01 AM	#59
TennisLovaLova Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,212	the real question is : is federer > to borg on clay judging by the titles, yes of course but federer was denied by the clay goat nadal so it's impossible to say really __________________ It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again

10-09-2012, 03:41 AM	#60
Agassifan Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,175	much better than Nadal as a hard courter __________________ "Will Nadal's moment of truth come at RolandGarros2013, judging from his clay-court performances at Vina del Mar 2013?" - 6-1 6-3 6-0.

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