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Bleacher report- the bible of tennis. Ha, ha, ha.
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It is the alpha and the omega compared to that article.
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In fact Joe's book was the first to give a good view over the whole pro's history. Many posters here haver been influenced by it. |
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the question isn't about Trengove's articles/tennis journalism. It is about this article, which is plainly poor and badly researched ...... as many have pointed out with various points, including me ......
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Becker,Edberg and Sampras would baggel him ( federer ) on fast indoor or grass more often than not. - the one and only kiki |
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Point is, Trengove is a leading authority in tennis terms...Unknown posters here are not.
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Most ( well all people - Kodestards) know federer is a superior claycourter to Kodes by some distance he won one slam ( the amateur one doesn't count ) and didn't dominate as much as federer did over a 4 year stretch ( 2004-2007 ) Quote:
Kodes being on the same level as Vines federer being in the 3rd tier of greats etc etc ...
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point is this particular article is a poorly written & researched one ... refute the points against it raised by the posters here.......instead of repeating how good trengove was/is ...
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Becker,Edberg and Sampras would baggel him ( federer ) on fast indoor or grass more often than not. - the one and only kiki |
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Bobby One, i didn't know, that Trengove was critical on McCauley's book. The book is imo the most important contribution to tennis in the last 15 years.
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The writer is from Australia so it's clear that he's biased toward Laver. Few years ago Peter Bodo admitted that he was biased toward Sampras when comparing as to who's the greatest. These writers are biased toward their countryman. If you want a writer to provide objective assessment between Federer and Laver, Steve Flink is a good example.
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NadalAgassi: I think Serena's final slam tally will be something from 18-27. My best guess is 24 or 25 though; Nole(2010) will never win Wimbledon |
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NadalAgassi: I think Serena's final slam tally will be something from 18-27. My best guess is 24 or 25 though; Nole(2010) will never win Wimbledon |
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By the way, I originally wanted to publish a book on pros' history and discussed the issue with Joe. But I quickly realized that Joe is the better man to write and publish such a book for several reasons: Joe was the better writer than me, he kept much more results than I did and, last not least, he had more money to publish the book. Maybe Andrew Tas can publish a book with additional information one day... Last edited by BobbyOne : 10-10-2012 at 10:20 AM. |
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Laver dominated 5 or 6 yrs in a row from 64 to 70 although I would say in 70 it is too close and that surpasses Federer who dominated 2003-2007 I feel so bad for Fed being so unrespectfully owned by Nadal that I rise him to second tier, don' t ask me for more generousity About Kodes, do you know how Napoleon chose his generals?
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" I have watched plenty of matches of the 70´s and 80´s" ABMK, the historian |
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(Your ironic subtlety is obfuscatory.)
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The smart man thinks he knows a lot; the wise man is aware that he knows little. Last edited by hoodjem : 10-09-2012 at 12:08 PM. |
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When shall we stablish a ponderating factor for titles so that we convert them all into " the same currency" to so say it?
It will be a very very hard battle between the two kind of segments we have here in TT, but it will be really passionating....
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If it was Swiss the OP wouldn't have created this thread.
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NadalAgassi: I think Serena's final slam tally will be something from 18-27. My best guess is 24 or 25 though; Nole(2010) will never win Wimbledon |
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Don't take it seriously. You should know me by now.
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I would think McCauley's book is one of THE most important books in tennis history. It opened the former hidden information of the Old Pro Tour. McCauley did a wonderful job on the book.
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By your command . . .
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The smart man thinks he knows a lot; the wise man is aware that he knows little. |
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