Tsonga says the refs always favor the Big4 in tough line calls

[RF20Lennon]

No wonder he hasn't won a slam!!!!

[The Bawss]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

IMO he's in the top 4 with Lars Graf, Ramos and Bernardes

Graf, Bernardes and even Pascal Maria would have picked up on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ofNg0y8w60

[Mainad]

It's a disgrace and an outrage!

Seriously, is he claiming that Hawkeye is biased in favour of the Big 4 too?

[The Bawss]

Originally Posted by Mainad

It's a disgrace and an outrage!

Seriously, is he claiming that Hawkeye is biased in favour of the Big 4 too?

No, he is claiming the "out!" call distracted him and prevented him from hitting a superb return winner. Which he was clearly going to do.

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

I thought Tsonga looked big on tv but in person he is extremely slender, or at least he was the last time I saw him.

Compared to Ms. Vavrinec, Tsonga indeed is a slender boy.

[TennisLovaLova]

Originally Posted by The Bawss

No, he is claiming the "out!" call distracted him and prevented him from hitting a superb return winner. Which he was clearly going to do.

that's clearly where he acts like a capricious little girl I agree
it was unreturnable

[Djokodal Fan]

I saw it live. The serve was definitely not returnable from his back hand. I think By the time he touched the ball, the wrong call also came at almost the same time.

Well to blame this on top 4 is totally uncalled for. Get better Tsonga if you want to beat them. Not cry on a line call which you would have not returned anyway.

I have seen even Nadal on the receiving end of such calls, so it happens to every one.

[Shangri La]

This is nothing new in the sports world. Tsonga needs to stop whining.

[TennisLovaLova]

Maybe it was returnable!
Ball hits the frame, bounces on the umpite chair, goes through the window, hits a bird, goes back through the window, hits the net post and fells in djoko's side
( a la mj/bird mcdonalds commercials)

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Carsomyr

He already said something to this affect about Nadal after their Miami encounter.

Sour grapes then, sour grapes now. This is becoming a disturbing pattern for Tsonga. The Top 4 don't win their matches against other players in the upper echelon on the basis of a few line calls. If Tsonga has a problem with this, there's only one solution: get better.

Yeah. Seeing the video it's clear it wasn't returnable. He got as much of the ball as he could have gotten and the call was when he was hitting the ball.... this along with what he said after his match against Rafa in Miami - where an obviously injured Nadal still beat him - show how much this is just sour grapes... a little pathetic actually.

Originally Posted by SStrikerR

There have been studies that have proven that the so called "home team advantage" when it comes to refs is actually true. If you don't think that the big four get favorable calls, you're either a fool or in denial.

Those studies would prove nothing in this case. The element there would the pressure from the public on the referee.
I can remember a very similar call against Nadal, only that in that case it wasn't an unreturnable ball, so he had a much better case. Still, the call went against him.

[Djokodal Fan]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

Maybe it was returnable!
Ball hits the frame, bounces on the umpite chair, goes through the window, hits a bird, goes back through the window, hits the net post and fells in djoko's side
( a la mj/bird mcdonalds commercials)

If there was a like Button, I would have liked your post. Funny

[dangalak]

Originally Posted by UKTennis

Extremely bitter. Very much how the football managers here in the UK moan about decisions going for the 'big teams.' It's a meek excuse.

No it's not. It's actually common sense that there is more pressure on the umpires when it comes to important players. Why do you think Rafa almost never gets called out for his time violations, while a guy like Cilic gets downright ROBBED of a set because of it? (got a time violation as he was about to serve a second serve against Federer on breakpoint, DFs and Federer serves the set out next game)

It's hilarious how predictable some of the posters here are. I think you are projecting your own pettiness on Tsonga. If Tsonga is so bitter, how come he didn't whine after he lost to Djokovic in Rome, FO and Olympics? It's almost like, he is saying these things because he genuinely has a reason to believe this.

Meanwhile, here you are, being the brave soul that you are and defend the guy who has achieved more in his career, because that is what courageous posters do.

[dangalak]

Originally Posted by Shangri La

This is nothing new in the sports world. Tsonga needs to stop whining.

If you actually read his comments, you would realize that he never whined in the first place. "I got used to this" is an expression of apathy.

Originally Posted by Djokodal Fan

I saw it live. The serve was definitely not returnable from his back hand. I think By the time he touched the ball, the wrong call also came at almost the same time.

Well to blame this on top 4 is totally uncalled for. Get better Tsonga if you want to beat them. Not cry on a line call which you would have not returned anyway.

I have seen even Nadal on the receiving end of such calls, so it happens to every one.

Yes because clearly Tsonga implied that given fair umpiring, he would crush all 4 of them and that ONLY bad calls are to blame for his losses.

[Russeljones]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

"And anger rises very quickly ... "

You can just picture Tsonga going over the net and punching someone's lights out. Scary quote!

[Laurie]

Originally Posted by Lemoned

I understand losing to the same players in the later stage over and over again must be extremely frustrating but he seems to play this type of card too often for my liking.

Does he also remember those wrong calls in the opening set that all went against Novak and almost cost him the set in their Rome match this year?

Plus, Lahyani could be the strictest umpire when it comes to the hawkeye system with a late challenge or a situation like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...sdyeYY#t=3780s

Thanks for that.

I like Tsonga but I think the Umpire made the right decision despite the commentators' remarks.

[No1e]

Long story short: Tsonga is a cry baby.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by dangalak

No it's not. It's actually common sense that there is more pressure on the umpires when it comes to important players. Why do you think Rafa almost never gets called out for his time violations, while a guy like Cilic gets downright ROBBED of a set because of it? (got a time violation as he was about to serve a second serve against Federer on breakpoint, DFs and Federer serves the set out next game)

It's hilarious how predictable some of the posters here are. I think you are projecting your own pettiness on Tsonga. If Tsonga is so bitter, how come he didn't whine after he lost to Djokovic in Rome, FO and Olympics? It's almost like, he is saying these things because he genuinely has a reason to believe this.

Lol, how did he get robbed?. He double faulted.

BTW, I'm sure Cilic also almost never gets called out for time violations.

Except we can actually see what he's complaining about, and he has no reason.

Originally Posted by dangalak

If you actually read his comments, you would realize that he never whined in the first place. "I got used to this" is an expression of apathy.

And still, he whined.

[RAFA2005RG]

The 2 most idiotic people of 2012:
Yannick Noah.
Jo-whatever Tsonga.

Must be something in the frog legs.

[Hankenstein]

Originally Posted by The Bawss

Well, Mohamed Lahyani is a pretty bad umpire so this isn't surprising coming from him.

Oh, thats why he´s one of the most popular refs among the touring pro´s then!?

What, in your oppinion, makes him a bad umpire?

[woodrow1029]

The issue wasn't whether the serve was returnable or not. The issue was that Lahyani ruled that the call came after Tsonga hit it. Tsonga said it came at exactly the same time. It's a tough call, but when it's that close, I think the benefit of the doubt should go to the receiver (Tsonga). But, the sound is slightly off of the video, so it's really hard to tell, and if the umpire feels that the call came after the hit, then it's not a "replay the point" situation.

I don't think Djokovic would have argued the call if he called a let.