So has Federer secured 300 weeks now??

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by Cup8489

lol this guy thinks Nadal is coming back.

I don't know why but I LOLed after reading your post. Anyway, I think Nadal's gonna be back and will win a couple more RG and probably one other.

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by adil1972

initially i hated nadal, when he won 2008 Wimbledon i hoped that he will be caught taking drugs but now i have respect for nadal. what if nadal, federer, djokovic and murray are all on drugs like but atp excuses them of taking drugs like agassi

Agassi didn't take performance-enhancing drugs. It didn't concern the ATP in any way.

[adil1972]

Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth

Agassi didn't take performance-enhancing drugs. It didn't concern the ATP in any way.

then why he mentioned it in his book about the whole drug episode

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by adil1972

then why he mentioned it in his book about the whole drug episode

He did do drugs. Just not performance-enhancing ones.

[sbengte]

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style

Even if he lost to Wawrinka, he can still get 300 weeks in Basel (Djokovic won't play there/will lose 150 points) so don't worry "Fed army"....

Is that right ? Assuming Djoko wins Shanghai and Fed loses to Wawa, how many points does Fed need to defend in Basel to get back to #1 ?

[Feather]

Originally Posted by sbengte

Is that right ? Assuming Djoko wins Shanghai and Fed loses to Wawa, how many points does Fed need to defend in Basel to get back to #1 ?

Roger has won Basel last year. So he won't gain any points there even if he wins the tournament this year

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by Feather

Roger has won Basel last year. So he won't gain any points there even if he wins the tournament this year

True. But if Djokovic doesn't play this year, he loses his points from his SF last year. So, relatively, Federer could go past him again.

[sbengte]

Originally Posted by Feather

Roger has won Basel last year. So he won't gain any points there even if he wins the tournament this year

I know. Though Fed won't gain any points in Basel, I am sure he can't get to no.1 if he loses his first match there. What is the minimum round he needs to make in Basel if he needs to get #1 back ? Also is it official that Djoko won't play Basel ?

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by sbengte

I know. Though Fed won't gain any points in Basel, I am sure he can't get to no.1 if he loses his first match there. What is the minimum round he needs to make in Basel if he needs to get #1 back ? Also is it official that Djoko won't play Basel ?

Here's how the rankings system works. It's a 1-year rolling system where everything you've done in the past 12 months counts. Let's say you won Wimbledon in 2011 and are holding 12000 points before Wimbledon 2012. 2000 of those 12000 points are from winning the 2011 Wimbledon. If you only make the Finals of Wimbledon in 2012, you gain 1200 points (for making the Final) but the 2000 points from the previous year's Wimbledon drop off. So, effectively, you lose 800 points. Your new ranking points will be 11200. So Federer will not gain any points even if he wins Basel. But he could go past Djokovic because Djokovic will lose his SF points from last year's Basel and won't gain any if he doesn't play this year's Basel.

[MG1]

Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth

Here's how the rankings system works. It's a 1-year rolling system where everything you've done in the past 12 months counts. Let's say you won Wimbledon in 2011 and are holding 12000 points before Wimbledon 2012. 2000 of those 12000 points are from winning the 2011 Wimbledon. If you only make the Finals of Wimbledon in 2012, you gain 1200 points (for making the Final) but the 2000 points from the previous year's Wimbledon drop off. So, effectively, you lose 800 points. Your new ranking points will be 11200. So Federer will not gain any points even if he wins Basel. But he could go past Djokovic because Djokovic will lose his SF points from last year's Basel and won't gain any if he doesn't play this year's Basel.

Most people here know this ..don't repeat it again!

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by MG1

Most people here know this ..don't repeat it again!

Exactly

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by sbengte

I know. Though Fed won't gain any points in Basel, I am sure he can't get to no.1 if he loses his first match there. What is the minimum round he needs to make in Basel if he needs to get #1 back ? Also is it official that Djoko won't play Basel ?

Anyway, to answer your question, if Federer were to lose to Wawrinka, and Djokovic were to win Shanghai, Federer would need to win Basel to get to #1 again, assuming Djokovic doesn't play Basel.

[adil1972]

is tennis the only sport with 3 bodies, ATP, WTA and ITF...

how come olympics is governed by ITF and not ATP and WTA

[adil1972]

more over, ITF follows ATP and WTA ranking in grand slams

and ATP and WTA award point for matches won in ITF grand slams

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by dudeski

I hope Nadal is banned from tennis after it is discovered that he was doping ever since 2005.

I'm happy to say, your post indicates that Rafa is going to be on your mind forever, because you'll always wish he was doping. You are going to be disappointed for the rest of your life, all because of Rafa.

[sbengte]

I understand how the ranking system works, I just wanted to know the exact points calculation for the scenario being discussed. For instance, can Fed afford to not win Basel (i.e drop a few points there) and still get back #1 from Djoker who will drop all his Basel points. I guess I would get my answer if I looked up how much the point differential between these two would be if Fed loses to Wawa and Djoker wins Shanghai.

Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth

Anyway, to answer your question, if Federer were to lose to Wawrinka, and Djokovic were to win Shanghai, Federer would need to win Basel to get to #1 again, assuming Djokovic doesn't play Basel.

Thanks, that answers my question.

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by sbengte

I understand how the ranking system works, I just wanted to know the exact points calculation for the scenario being discussed. For instance, can Fed afford to not win Basel (i.e drop a few points there) and still get back #1 from Djoker who will drop all his Basel points. I guess I would get my answer if I looked up how much the point differential between these two would be if Fed loses to Wawa and Djoker wins Shanghai.



Thanks, that answers my question.

Yeah, he can't afford to lose any points. Because the difference between the title and the final is 200 points (title - 500 points, final - 300 points), which is more than what Djokovic will drop if he doesn't play (180).

[SoBad]

Yeah, once they complete the blood tests, it's gonna be more like top 100 ATP for two weeks and all the money will be taken away.

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by SoBad

Yeah, once they complete the blood tests, it's gonna be more like top 100 ATP for two weeks and all the money will be taken away.

It's funny how you, RAFA2005RG and 6-1 6-3 6-0 all seem to come online at about the same time. Everyday.

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth

It's funny how you, RAFA2005RG and 6-1 6-3 6-0 all seem to come online at about the same time. Everyday.

We are roommates and sit around together every night looking for a free WiFi connection in the air.