New article on Rosewall

urban · 10-10-2012, 10:23 PM

To the serious posters here, (and those i can take serious), a new article by Steve Tignor on tennis about Rosewall and clips of the 1970 USO final, which wre loaded on by Krosero. I think, we had a discussion here about the clips a year ago or so.
http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/10/c...muscles/39730/

BobbyOne · 10-11-2012, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by urban

To the serious posters here, (and those i can take serious), a new article by Steve Tignor on tennis about Rosewall and clips of the 1970 USO final, which wre loaded on by Krosero. I think, we had a discussion here about the clips a year ago or so.
http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/10/c...muscles/39730/

Thanks, urban, for the Tignor article. Hope to be a serious poster. Tignor describes Rosewall's backhand very well.

I liked it that he also mentioned Rosewall's pro majors which mostly are neglected.

urban · 10-11-2012, 04:44 AM

Seems that Tignor is now aware to look first at some clips before he makes his comments. Some years ago he made some comments about old masters without looking first. Recently i read a longer article of Trengove about his experiences at the Austrialian champs in the 50s, including his first hand description of Rosewall's first final win over Rose. I will look for the link.
http://static.booktopia.com.au/pdf/9780980466744-1.pdf

chrischris · 10-11-2012, 05:53 AM

Great stuff .. Muscles was awesome to watch !!

pc1 · 10-11-2012, 06:22 AM

Great articles Urban.

Carsomyr · 10-11-2012, 06:24 AM

Much better article, congrats.

urban · 10-11-2012, 07:44 AM

Posting a link is an easy exercise. Congratulations to the authors, especially to the over 80 years old guy, who has bewared his wit and style over the years. The difference is, that one account of Rosewall is firsthand, the other relies on some clips. Its of course not Tignor's fault, and i respect his more recent writings, because he shows some humility and historical perspective, by constantly referring to older writers. Still, there was a generation of tennis writers, like Laurie Pignon (who died recently), Will Grimsley, Trengove, Collins, Tingay, David Gray (with his famous Shades of Gray, not the mommyporn), Barrett, Bellamy, McCauley, Warren Wind, (Laney, Danzig, Myers, Oliff of a previous era), and others, who had encyclopedic knowledge of the game, and who were/are imo real authorities of the game.

kiki · 10-11-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by urban

Posting a link is an easy exercise. Congratulations to the authors, especially to the over 80 years old guy, who has bewared his wit and style over the years. The difference is, that one account of Rosewall is firsthand, the other relies on some clips. Its of course not Tignor's fault, and i respect his more recent writings, because he shows some humility and historical perspective, by constantly referring to older writers. Still, there was a generation of tennis writers, like Laurie Pignon (who died recently), Will Grimsley, Trengove, Collins, Tingay, David Gray (with his famous Shades of Gray, not the mommyporn), Barrett, Bellamy, McCauley, Warren Wind, (Laney, Danzig, Myers, Oliff of a previous era), and others, who had encyclopedic knowledge of the game, and who were/are imo real authorities of the game.

And Tingay and maskell, the voice of the BBC.great recolection of names.I´d add Tomassi,Scaramanga,Couvercelle and Ducamp.

krosero · 10-12-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by urban

I think, we had a discussion here about the clips a year ago or so.

Yes a few here, and one in the Tips forum: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=421915

Nice to see that clip making impressions.

hoodjem · 10-13-2012, 08:15 AM

"He was 37 when he won his last, at the ’72 Aussie Open. He was 39 when he reached the Wimbledon and U.S. Open finals two years later."

Incroyable!

Dan Lobb · 10-13-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

"He was 37 when he won his last, at the ’72 Aussie Open. He was 39 when he reached the Wimbledon and U.S. Open finals two years later."

Incroyable!

Especially when you consider that his first major wins were in 1953, and that he probably reached absolute peak form in the late 1950's.
To extend competitive form for another 17 years past his absolute peak (remember, Rosewall defeated Nastase in clay court FINALS in 1975 and 1976!) is unbelievable.
What did those Hopman grads put in their porridge?

BobbyOne · 10-13-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

Especially when you consider that his first major wins were in 1953, and that he probably reached absolute peak form in the late 1950's.
To extend competitive form for another 17 years past his absolute peak (remember, Rosewall defeated Nastase in clay court FINALS in 1975 and 1976!) is unbelievable.
What did those Hopman grads put in their porridge?

Yes, several Aussies (Laver, Sedgman) lasted long, but it was a Rosewall speciality to win at over 40.

pc1 · 10-13-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

Especially when you consider that his first major wins were in 1953, and that he probably reached absolute peak form in the late 1950's.
To extend competitive form for another 17 years past his absolute peak (remember, Rosewall defeated Nastase in clay court FINALS in 1975 and 1976!) is unbelievable.
What did those Hopman grads put in their porridge?

It is incredible how many great players were coached by Hopman. Do we also include John McEnroe among the Hopman group?

kiki · 10-14-2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pc1

It is incredible how many great players were coached by Hopman. Do we also include John McEnroe among the Hopman group?

Not so much as Vitas Gerulaitis, anyhow.

hoodjem · 10-14-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

Especially when you consider that his first major wins were in 1953, and that he probably reached absolute peak form in the late 1950's.
To extend competitive form for another 17 years past his absolute peak (remember, Rosewall defeated Nastase in clay court FINALS in 1975 and 1976!) is unbelievable.
What did those Hopman grads put in their porridge?

Yes! Muscles' longevity is supreme.

As I have said before, I try to imagine Fed winning a slam in 2022--and I can't.

Frankc · 10-14-2012, 08:36 AM

Wow - thank sfor the post. A sunday morning, coffee in hand, and the link is just wonderful... wonderful...

BobbyOne · 10-14-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

Especially when you consider that his first major wins were in 1953, and that he probably reached absolute peak form in the late 1950's.
To extend competitive form for another 17 years past his absolute peak (remember, Rosewall defeated Nastase in clay court FINALS in 1975 and 1976!) is unbelievable.
What did those Hopman grads put in their porridge?

Dan, as far as I know Rosewall beat Nastase in the 1975 North Conway SEMIFINAL. And I'm not sure if the 1976 Hongkong tournament was played on clay, but you could be right.

pc1 · 10-14-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kiki

Not so much as Vitas Gerulaitis, anyhow.

I forgot about Vitas.

treblings · 10-22-2012, 04:10 AM

youtube is not my friend today, link isn´t working
been watching Rosewall-Laver clip from the RG69 final and wanted to share it

hoodjem · 10-22-2012, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by treblings

youtube is not my friend today, link isn´t working
been watching Rosewall-Laver clip from the RG69 final and wanted to share it

Here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUvK-1tUvQM

10-10-2012, 10:23 PM	#1
urban Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,735	New article on Rosewall To the serious posters here, (and those i can take serious), a new article by Steve Tignor on tennis about Rosewall and clips of the 1970 USO final, which wre loaded on by Krosero. I think, we had a discussion here about the clips a year ago or so. http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/10/c...muscles/39730/

10-11-2012, 04:44 AM	#3
urban Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,735	Seems that Tignor is now aware to look first at some clips before he makes his comments. Some years ago he made some comments about old masters without looking first. Recently i read a longer article of Trengove about his experiences at the Austrialian champs in the 50s, including his first hand description of Rosewall's first final win over Rose. I will look for the link. http://static.booktopia.com.au/pdf/9780980466744-1.pdf Last edited by urban : 10-11-2012 at 04:50 AM.

10-11-2012, 06:24 AM	#6
Carsomyr Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,318	Much better article, congrats. __________________ "I can cry like Roger, it’s just a shame I can’t play like him." - Andy Murray

10-13-2012, 08:15 AM	#10
hoodjem Legend Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bierlandt Posts: 9,964	"He was 37 when he won his last, at the ’72 Aussie Open. He was 39 when he reached the Wimbledon and U.S. Open finals two years later." Incroyable! __________________ The smart man thinks he knows a lot; the wise man is aware that he knows little.

10-22-2012, 04:10 AM	#19
treblings Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,891	youtube is not my friend today, link isn´t working been watching Rosewall-Laver clip from the RG69 final and wanted to share it __________________ Head Prestige Pro (2nd gen) Last edited by treblings : 10-22-2012 at 04:22 AM. Reason: link isn´t working