Tennis racquet gadgets

[The Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by icorp

I do agree with you on the wonder wedge regarding eastern FH. Do you add 5 pcs of mounting tape to bevels 2 & 4? How does it affect your eastern FH?

Wonder Wedge customer service is excellent BTW but it wasn't for me unfortunately!

No just bevel 3.

How does it affect my eastern forehand ? It's strange.....since the bevel is much smaller with the mounting tape you hit the ball at a completely different angle than normally

I would say your eastern become a mix of continental and eastern. Basically if you use an eastern then I don't think this gadget is for you.

I use an eastern with it sometimes and I have become accustomed to it.....mainly however I use semi western for groundies and continetal for serve and volley.

[icorp]

Do you cut the tape at an angle? Also do you add your regular grip or just an over grip? Thanks for sharing!

[The Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by icorp

Do you cut the tape at an angle? Also do you add your regular grip or just an over grip? Thanks for sharing!

I make the top two pieces of tape very slightly longer than the rest.

Then I put tounagrip over it and it pushes down the top of the 5 pieces of tape to form the angle.

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

There was a website that sold western grips. A Wonder Wedge

Great discussion, thanks for all the imput. I will try to answer most of the questions.

By the way, I am Ed, inventor, owner of the Power V Grips so we will see how far this goes.

I sincerely believe the PVG's/Wonder Wedge enhance all the grips with increased leverage and traction. Granted the original Power V Grip will feel very strange at first for most people. The Power V Grip II is not nearly as dramatic but offers a lot of the same benefits. Don't know where you got that we sold Western grips.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by Andyroo10567

Ridiculous. I think they should have spent more time thinking of something actually useful to the majority of players instead of making decorations for the racquet. Yes. Decorations.

Andyroo, it is very useful and beneficial to a lot of players, go to the testimonial page. I get testimonials all the time. I quit putting them up because most visitors don't even go to the testimonial page.

http://www.tennisgeometrics.com/test...ls_tennis.html

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by NickJ

I invented the forehand. Everyone who uses one must pay me 5p everytime they hit one.

NickJ, do you even have a forehand?

Best regards,

Ed

www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by The Dark Knight

Yup ....it's sort of a copy and it seems better in some ways and inferior in others.

On the other hand the wonder wedge also allows you to create that "shelf" for

Your semi western as well.

However the wonder wedge completely ruins an Eastern forehand grip .

What seems interesting about the gripyou to me is the butt cap......that looks really cool and I cannot wait to try it:

Here's a pic of the wonder wedge......I just use five pieces of double sided mounting tape so there's no need to buy the wonder wedge.

Check out the pic of the wonder wedge:

I will have to check out the "gripyou." I have not seen it yet.

People have told me they use tape, popsicle sticks, whatever. Great, build up bevel 3 any way you can. This will change the contact points on the handle increasing the leverage, and provide a frame of reference for finding "all the grips" that I just don't think you get with a regular shaped handle.

I don't think either of the PVG's ruin the EF but the larger one, the original PVG does push the knuckle on the base of your index finger away from the handle making it feel strange.

Appreciate your comments.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by PKfan1

Since it was mentioned, about the wonder wedge, would it make a head grip a more wilson shape or is it more extreme than that?

Good question. In my opinion the more rectangular handles are not that benficial for the SW or the Cont. grip but are great if you prefer the EF grip. The PVG's on these handles give the SW and the Cont. grip the bevel size they deserve.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by bugeyed

A shelf for your hand to "push of of"? "index finger to lay on & push off of"? More power, serve better in every regard? Sounds like a salesman on commission. I don't think that my hand or index finger "push off" when I hit! More of a difference than the strings?
I think that I can safely say that, by the way you describe the benefits of the Wonder Wedge, it's mostly in your head! Absolute snake oil relative to the improvements as you describe them. It may give you a different grip on the racquet, but when you talk about hands & fingers "pushing off", I know you have a very vivid imagination.

Cheers,
kev

Well maybe he did not say it just right but I can assure you he does not get a sales commission. LOL

More power? Well, when the racquet does not twist so much in your hand you will transfer more energy to the ball. This translates to more spin and action.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

Plus, mounting tape weighs a lot less than Sorbothane. Can recall the added weight of the Gosen Sorbothane grip.

Excellent, major concern for high performance players. Got questions all the time but once the got it never heard about any problem.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by bugeyed

Fair enough. I guess I was reacting to the claims of a dramatic transformation in performance. Granted, a better fitting grip would help in many ways, but I have doubts that this wedge, by itself, would make for huge improvements in my play. I'd be afraid to try it, 'cause what if it doesn't fix everything about my game? What then?

Hey, if you are happy with your game, great. If there is a part of you game that really needs improvement go for it.

Everyone seems to have a different experience. For some their is a dramatic immediate improvement in some aspect of their game at the same time it hinders another. They are so excited about the improvement they become determined to understand a master the other stroke (forehand, backhand, serve,whatever), that is giving them trouble. Some customers rock and roll from the start. I think it is a function of "just how well they move their hand on the handle now.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by sureshs

Nadal uses the Wonder Wedgie

Very good,

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by bugeyed

BTW I still don't buy the massive increase in power!? Yeah you may be sending the ball over the fence, but that's because the racquet face is at a different angle because of your grip.

k

Very good. Being aware of and controlling the racquet face angle is critical on all levels of play. Usually players using the PVG's who want to move from the WF to the SW will do just that. They place their hand in the SW position correctly but revert back to the hand wrist angle of the W grip, thus opening up the racquet face. It is just the opposit for people moving from the EF to the SW, oops, right into the net.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by Roforot

I disagree w/ "over the fence" when I first used it, the balls were dying into the net b/c of the spin.

I would also temper some of the claims of "huge" spin or power gains but would rather say it enables me to comfortably hit shots w/ "huge" spin. Without the ww or power-v grip, I felt uncomfortable w/ western/semi-west. grip esp. if using windshield wiper motions.

The biggest gain actually was with the continental grip. It's much more stable on volleys. I also prefer serving with it.

Replacing a regular grip to add the ww + overgrip nets 10-12g to the racquet and makes it a bit more headlight.

Main negative is that I have to take 2-3 racquets everytime b/c I can't borrow someone else's racquet if I break a string. Of course, it also keeps people from borrowing your racquet.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by sundaypunch

I can speak from experience with the Wonder Wedge (now Power V grip). It increases the size of the angled 2 and 4 bevels. This gives the continental and semi-western grips a bigger, more stable bevel. The #3 bevel gets tiny so if you use an eastern FH it probably will be a negative for you.

I originally tried it because my daughter was having a problem with her grip rotating from conti to eastern when she served. She didn't like it at first but after a few days she got used to it. It did solve the problem of the racquet rotating in her hand. She loves it now. After using it for a couple of years now she hates hitting with a racquet that doesn't have one.

I gave it a try as I would often use one of her racquets when we played. I also hit with a SW forehand so it was an easy transition. I really like the feel of the racquet with it.

I have since stopped using it. Not because I didn't like it, but because it forces you to hit on the same side of the racquet for all your shots. I use textured poly (MSV Focus Hex). What I found is that the hitting side would be worn smooth and the side with the Wonder Wedge would still be rough and like new.

I wouldn't call it a "gimmick". It really just gives you a more stable feeling for certain grips. Some may not like it. For others it really helps their confidence.

You must use a different transition in going from the forehand to your backhand then most people.

Thanks for your comments.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by The Dark Knight

By the way.....if you really want to do this the right way you should go to someone like Roman Prokes in NY or Bosworth in Florida.

They will take a mold of your hand and custom for a grip for your playing style.

You will not believe what a difference your grip makes in your game.

I believe the grip is actually far more important than the strings you use or the racquet you choose.

The angle and the strength of your grip is the beginning of everything . If your grip is not at the right angle or not strong enough to support then your game will be greatly affected.

Hours and hours are spent on the boards about string and racquets. But no one talks about the grip....which is far far more important.

If you don't believe me just try it. You will be blown away by the difference it makes. It may not be a "good" difference but you will automatically see a gigantic difference in the way you hit the ball. You will realize how important the shape of your grip is on the very first hit.

Well said.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com

[Tim Tennis]

Originally Posted by icorp

I do agree with you on the wonder wedge regarding eastern FH. Do you add 5 pcs of mounting tape to bevels 2 & 4? How does it affect your eastern FH?

Wonder Wedge customer service is excellent BTW but it wasn't for me unfortunately!

Thanks for your kind words.

Best regards,

Ed
www.tennisgeometrics.com